On October 25 2017 14:25 nayumi wrote:
I don't think Bravo is the goalkeeper you want at all but okay... :D
I don't think Bravo is the goalkeeper you want at all but okay... :D
He is a hero in Chile and deservedly so
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On October 25 2017 14:25 nayumi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2017 13:22 sharkie wrote: Claudio Bravo is the goalkeeper you want at penalties it seems I don't think Bravo is the goalkeeper you want at all but okay... :D He is a hero in Chile and deservedly so | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! | ||
fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
During this season, out of 13 shootouts he defended 8 of them. edit: Just noticed the video has only 7 of them, sorry... | ||
GoloSC2
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On October 25 2017 16:39 Pandemona wrote: Man i hate ABBA penalty system! Miss one penalty and you then have to go again and if you miss that it is over! Missing 2 in a row with the opponent taking one in between is so much fairer. Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! i like it more than the unfairness of being at a disadvantage just b/c you lost the coin toss | ||
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On October 25 2017 18:25 GoloSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2017 16:39 Pandemona wrote: Man i hate ABBA penalty system! Miss one penalty and you then have to go again and if you miss that it is over! Missing 2 in a row with the opponent taking one in between is so much fairer. Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! i like it more than the unfairness of being at a disadvantage just b/c you lost the coin toss Do you have statistics that prove that being first or second on penalties give clear advantage/disadvantage to one of the teams ? | ||
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United States41117 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On October 25 2017 22:28 Pr0wler wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2017 18:25 GoloSC2 wrote: On October 25 2017 16:39 Pandemona wrote: Man i hate ABBA penalty system! Miss one penalty and you then have to go again and if you miss that it is over! Missing 2 in a row with the opponent taking one in between is so much fairer. Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! i like it more than the unfairness of being at a disadvantage just b/c you lost the coin toss Do you have statistics that prove that being first or second on penalties give clear advantage/disadvantage to one of the teams ? https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.100.5.2548 + Show Spoiler [abstract] + Emotions can have important effects on performance and socioeconomic outcomes. We study a natural experiment where two teams of professionals compete in a tournament taking turns in a sequence. As the sequential order is determined by the random outcome of a coin flip, the treatment and control groups are determined via explicit randomization. Hence, absent any psychological effects, both teams should have the same probability of winning. Yet, we find a systematic first-mover advantage. Further, professionals are self-aware of their own psychological effects and, when given the chance, they rationally react by systematically taking advantage of these effects. (JEL C93, D03, D82, L83) | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On October 25 2017 22:35 Keniji wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2017 22:28 Pr0wler wrote: On October 25 2017 18:25 GoloSC2 wrote: On October 25 2017 16:39 Pandemona wrote: Man i hate ABBA penalty system! Miss one penalty and you then have to go again and if you miss that it is over! Missing 2 in a row with the opponent taking one in between is so much fairer. Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! i like it more than the unfairness of being at a disadvantage just b/c you lost the coin toss Do you have statistics that prove that being first or second on penalties give clear advantage/disadvantage to one of the teams ? https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.100.5.2548 + Show Spoiler [abstract] + Emotions can have important effects on performance and socioeconomic outcomes. We study a natural experiment where two teams of professionals compete in a tournament taking turns in a sequence. As the sequential order is determined by the random outcome of a coin flip, the treatment and control groups are determined via explicit randomization. Hence, absent any psychological effects, both teams should have the same probability of winning. Yet, we find a systematic first-mover advantage. Further, professionals are self-aware of their own psychological effects and, when given the chance, they rationally react by systematically taking advantage of these effects. (JEL C93, D03, D82, L83) You know AEA articles arent free to the public right ? That having been said the first takers advantage is a pretty common sense and its super well documented that taking penalties first is an advantage. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On October 25 2017 23:21 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2017 22:35 Keniji wrote: On October 25 2017 22:28 Pr0wler wrote: On October 25 2017 18:25 GoloSC2 wrote: On October 25 2017 16:39 Pandemona wrote: Man i hate ABBA penalty system! Miss one penalty and you then have to go again and if you miss that it is over! Missing 2 in a row with the opponent taking one in between is so much fairer. Ali Macinally was also moaning about it on commentary last night too! i like it more than the unfairness of being at a disadvantage just b/c you lost the coin toss Do you have statistics that prove that being first or second on penalties give clear advantage/disadvantage to one of the teams ? https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.100.5.2548 + Show Spoiler [abstract] + Emotions can have important effects on performance and socioeconomic outcomes. We study a natural experiment where two teams of professionals compete in a tournament taking turns in a sequence. As the sequential order is determined by the random outcome of a coin flip, the treatment and control groups are determined via explicit randomization. Hence, absent any psychological effects, both teams should have the same probability of winning. Yet, we find a systematic first-mover advantage. Further, professionals are self-aware of their own psychological effects and, when given the chance, they rationally react by systematically taking advantage of these effects. (JEL C93, D03, D82, L83) You know AEA articles arent free to the public right ? That having been said the first takers advantage is a pretty common sense and its super well documented that taking penalties first is an advantage. There is always sci-hub. That said, the main point is that there are peer-reviewed papers showing the first take advantage, as seen by the (for free) abstract. | ||
WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On October 26 2017 01:24 WillyWanker wrote: ABBAA doesn't fix anything though. You can still be put in situations where you will have more pressure than the opponent. I liked the traditional one as the one which loses the coin toss gets to decide on which side they'll have the shoutouts. Also, drama is important (=entertaining) at this stage of the game, ABAB has more potential for it imo. Both teams couldn't win the game in 120mn (210mn for a 2-leg game), a coin toss to get a 55/45 advantage doesn't seem crazy to me. But in this case its your own fault for getting pressured into such a situation. Coin toss is just stupid | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On October 26 2017 05:02 clusen wrote: Pretty sure Leipzig would beat Bayern like 2 or 3 : 0 with a somewhat fair ref Since a few years there is a big divide between our refs and their bosses (especially Fandel and Krug who always get accused of preferring refs who are "in line", preferring refs who are simply liked by them and not caring about good refs who may voice some critic/are not liked by them or troubled refs like Rafati). Interestingly enough Zwayer is one of the Refs who got especially called out by Brych and Gräfe(nowadays our best refs and basically the refs who are protesting Fandel the most) for getting preferential treatment by Fandel. Edit: And then there is still Zwayers history with the matchfixing scandal of 2005... Not saying that he is matchfixing, but he isn't one of our referees who should ref top league games anymore | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
WHAT A FUCKING SAVEE!!! Real Madrid, prepare yourself, we are coming after you in the following 2017 Fifa Team World Cup! | ||
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