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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/525253-2017-2018-football-thread#1
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
October 18 2016 17:20 GMT
#1241
On October 19 2016 01:55 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 00:53 Dingodile wrote:
It's not UEFA fault. Real/Bayern/Juve forced UEFA to change the format. UEFA had no choice. Otherwise they would build a new competition (like Superliga) without UEFA. Arsene Wenger said: "We definitely need UEFA. Otherwise we will have different titles soon like in boxing, 5 different world titles and nobody knows who is the real champion".

The irony is that a team like Ajax would probably among the absolute top teams now if a European super league would have been established like 20 years ago. The small domestic league is what kept Ajax from growing financially like other top clubs from the old era.

Partially, sure. But managerial incompetence is also to blame. There doesn't seem to be any reason Portugal and Ukraine consistently do better, and Czech Republic, Belgium, Turkey and Switzerland have overtaken NL in the UEFA club coefficient ranking. Clearly there is more wrong with Dutch football than just a "small domestic league".
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
October 18 2016 18:00 GMT
#1242
On October 19 2016 02:20 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 01:55 Maenander wrote:
On October 19 2016 00:53 Dingodile wrote:
It's not UEFA fault. Real/Bayern/Juve forced UEFA to change the format. UEFA had no choice. Otherwise they would build a new competition (like Superliga) without UEFA. Arsene Wenger said: "We definitely need UEFA. Otherwise we will have different titles soon like in boxing, 5 different world titles and nobody knows who is the real champion".

The irony is that a team like Ajax would probably among the absolute top teams now if a European super league would have been established like 20 years ago. The small domestic league is what kept Ajax from growing financially like other top clubs from the old era.

Partially, sure. But managerial incompetence is also to blame. There doesn't seem to be any reason Portugal and Ukraine consistently do better, and Czech Republic, Belgium, Turkey and Switzerland have overtaken NL in the UEFA club coefficient ranking. Clearly there is more wrong with Dutch football than just a "small domestic league".

None of those countries have clubs which are expected to go far in the CL yearly. Yes there's more to it than a small league but his point is still correct. Clubs from small countries are incredibly limited by their league.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 18 2016 18:28 GMT
#1243
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 20:42:49
October 18 2016 19:00 GMT
#1244
Sporting - Dortmund

0-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/fhofqc.mp4
disallowed Sporting goal https://my.mixtape.moe/gnfmrm.mp4
0-2 https://my.mixtape.moe/opmbyp.mp4
backpass https://my.mixtape.moe/ftpigi.mp4
1-2 https://my.mixtape.moe/jjmyit.mp4


Brugge - Porto

1-0 https://streamable.com/ppgu
1-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/kxkvwm.mp4
penalty call https://streamable.com/b10p
1-2 https://streamable.com/ywls


Real - Warsaw

1-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/hvnydt.mp4
2-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/ahvwdd.mp4
2-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/xjbckn.mp4 (pen + call)
3-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/bpergw.mp4
4-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/ugqinz.mp4
5-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/hyaalo.mp4


Moscow - Monaco

1-0 https://streamable.com/sj4x
1-1 https://streamable.com/q7lm


Lyon - Juventus

Lyon pen https://streamable.com/j01d
Buffon save https://streamable.com/ashi, https://streamable.com/58tx
Lemina 2nd yellow https://streamable.com/5ka9
0-1 https://streamable.com/kecf


Zagreb - Sevilla

0-1 https://streamable.com/rhjq


Leicester - Copenhagen

1-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/mvjpmo.mp4
Slimani disallowed: https://streamable.com/z2zn


Leverkusen - Tottenham

Goal line tech https://streamable.com/bmw0
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
October 18 2016 19:28 GMT
#1245
and there it was, the Gizmo memorial dodgy call that denies Sporting a goal against a German team
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 19:31:12
October 18 2016 19:30 GMT
#1246
he blocked the goal keeper in the 5m zone sooooo i dunno kev you can call it for sure.
sporting's defence on the other hand is pathetic
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 20:37:32
October 18 2016 19:33 GMT
#1247
Spurs comfortably outplaying Leverkusen but no goal to show for it, thanks to Leno and the crossbar.

edit: Leverkusen now dominating the second half, somehow still 0-0. Kiessling goes down easier than Drogba, unbelievable.

edit 2: I can't believe it finished 0-0, exciting game and a tale of two halves.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 19:33:42
October 18 2016 19:33 GMT
#1248
On October 19 2016 04:28 sneirac wrote:
and there it was, the Gizmo memorial dodgy call that denies Sporting a goal against a German team


hahaha its hilarious that I had the exact same thought. Like instantly.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
October 18 2016 19:34 GMT
#1249
On October 19 2016 04:30 Undead1993 wrote:
he blocked the goal keeper in the 5m zone sooooo i dunno kev you can call it for sure.
sporting's defence on the other hand is pathetic

on second viewing the arm going out makes it an acceptable call for me, just looked kinda meh first

gfy: https://my.mixtape.moe/gnfmrm.mp4
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 18 2016 20:14 GMT
#1250
freekicks from inside the box are just pure murder. But I love them :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 19 2016 18:50 GMT
#1251
I'm sorry but Pep is beyond me....this football style he plays makes no sense when he starts putting AGUERO...on the bench in favour of playing DeBruyne striker in a false 9!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
October 19 2016 19:03 GMT
#1252
Holy shit that sanchez goal
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-19 19:34:40
October 19 2016 19:04 GMT
#1253
Kiev - Benfica

0-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/sjaswj.mp4


Bayern - PSV

1-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/ghsvkl.mp4
2-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/zcgrsc.mp4
2-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/mwrsas.mp4


Napoli - Besiktas

0-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/qratqh.mp4
1-1 https://my.mixtape.moe/xizpsn.mp4
1-2 https://my.mixtape.moe/ezpjvb.mp4


Arsenal - Ludogorets

1-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/njspdy.mp4
2-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/eresin.mp4


Barcelona - City

1-0 https://my.mixtape.moe/jieooo.mp4


PSG - Basel

1-0
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
October 19 2016 19:06 GMT
#1254
I hope for Sanchez' own sake that he is going to stay at Arsenal.
He evolved so much since he joined them
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 19 2016 19:11 GMT
#1255
On October 20 2016 03:50 Pandemona wrote:
I'm sorry but Pep is beyond me....this football style he plays makes no sense when he starts putting AGUERO...on the bench in favour of playing DeBruyne striker in a false 9!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well it was kinda competitive till some unlucky ricochets and Fernandinho with the horroshow of a slip.

But that can happen when you play Pep style pressing Defense and your press gets broken. Its high risk footy against a team like Barca, but atleast the games happen.

But yeah sometimes there are individuals who are beyond the system and for City Aguero is one of them. I strongly disagree with his choice there.

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 19 2016 19:25 GMT
#1256
Yeah i can understand 4-3-3 false 9 but i don't understand it when the best player in the whole squad is the guy u putting on bench for it. Aguero is so good plus he offers passing and movement more than holding the ball up etc etc just crazy crazy to me!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
October 19 2016 19:28 GMT
#1257
On October 20 2016 04:25 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i can understand 4-3-3 false 9 but i don't understand it when the best player in the whole squad is the guy u putting on bench for it. Aguero is so good plus he offers passing and movement more than holding the ball up etc etc just crazy crazy to me!


best player in the whole squad is playing the false nine...
No way Aguero is more important than De Bruyne. And obviously both should play.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-19 20:02:45
October 19 2016 19:34 GMT
#1258
Aguero is 100x better and more important than DeBruyne was in the last 10 seasons in world football let alone Man City alone!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
October 19 2016 19:35 GMT
#1259
On October 20 2016 04:34 Pandemona wrote:
Aguero is 100x better and more important than Aguero was in the last 10 seasons in world football let alone Man City alone!

Pande please spend half a second proof reading
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-19 19:40:22
October 19 2016 19:39 GMT
#1260
He's maybe not 100% physically, who knows. I think he needed to choose between De Bruyne and Aguero anyway, since neither of them could play on the wing against Barcelona...

Even game until now... Barça will have no option for substitutions but Silva and Fernandinho have a yellow already and can't be replaced easily. Can make for a more entertaining second half.
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