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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 09:42:55
June 29 2017 09:41 GMT
#6201
We did :D
UEFA Youth League has run 4 times, we have been in it 3 times and won it two times back to back as well. This year we were not in it because we didn't qualify for Europe T_T but we are back in it next year
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 29 2017 10:03 GMT
#6202
That's not how you measure an academy success. It's about how the players transition in professional football and Chelsea has no success in that aspect.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 29 2017 10:06 GMT
#6203
Ay I don't even care if our academy is good or bad, whether we raised them or buy them. Point is we have a bunch of good youngsters there, evident from their dominance at that level. But what's the point of all that if you're never gonna give them the chance to be a superstar.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 29 2017 13:16 GMT
#6204
Yeah but you can't say the academy is bad if it is producing the talent but the club itself isn't using it. Im sure many clubs are thankful they have Chelsea youth prospects playing for there clubs now etc.
But of course we have not produced a mega star...yet that is for true, not since JT of course.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 13:37:21
June 29 2017 13:29 GMT
#6205
On June 29 2017 22:16 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah but you can't say the academy is bad if it is producing the talent but the club itself isn't using it. Im sure many clubs are thankful they have Chelsea youth prospects playing for there clubs now etc.
But of course we have not produced a mega star...yet that is for true, not since JT of course.


I think the comment people are making is that its not producing talent, its buying talent. Amateur teen or mid teen talent that has been identified elsewhere purchased or contracted to the Chelsea Academy and then is being used to win or do well in that level of youth tournaments so that you can say how amazing your Academy is and then we never hear of that talent again or at the very least not regulars in the first team.

Kinda like how Chelsea operates everywhere tbh. Other clubs do it to. But a very huge chunk of their acadamies is homegrown in the very truest sense of the word and alot of them do make it to top tier at that same club in some capacity.

At the very least if you dont even manage to get one academy player in your first team then your academy is not doing its job or the management doesnt trust it enough. Either way its a waste.

Which is why the comment below is most apt. But ofcourse your ego got bruised so you are busy defending an academy that effectively does nothing for the club at large. As it is now.

On June 29 2017 19:06 DucK- wrote:
Ay I don't even care if our academy is good or bad, whether we raised them or buy them. Point is we have a bunch of good youngsters there, evident from their dominance at that level. But what's the point of all that if you're never gonna give them the chance to be a superstar.


This is at least honest.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 29 2017 13:55 GMT
#6206
It makes us money, there isn't even that many academy products who play that are bought, the squads that win things are not with bought players. The bought kids we buy don't normally have work permits to come over and are loaned to Vitesse or other clubs through out Europe. Ake was an exception to that rule having arrived from Netherlands.

Our kid team who won the FA Youth cup and league are all from the UK minus 2 who one is from Poland and the other Ajax academy. We don't sign kids to promote them that way we do produce them and play them at that level. Then they go on the loan journey until Emanalo says they are ready which in his view is around the age of 23.

Our first team last season consisted of Chalobah/Loftus-Cheek/Ola-Aina all of which have been at the club since the start of there careers (below 10) in the academy winning youth titles.

I never said our system was right but the academy itself aint shit, it has success at the level it should have and gets recognized with that, thus we can attract these kids from Ajax/Rest of the world to come over and be affiliated with the club. They then get to go travel Europe on our loan system :D how exciting
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 29 2017 13:58 GMT
#6207
Bayern Munich have seemingly ruled out a move for Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez, leaving Manchester City unrivalled in the race to sign the player, understood to be for around £50m.

The Bundesliga champions have been heavily linked with a move for the Chilean, with Arturo Vidal even admitting he had been trying to persuade Sanchez to move the Munich while the pair were on international duty together.

But Club president Uli Hoeness has claimed the club must focus on building around youth rather than experience, thus ruling out the signing of 28-year-old Sanchez, who only has 12 months remaining on his contract at the Emirates.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 15:20:55
June 29 2017 15:17 GMT
#6208


I was at the stadium that day, i was like 17 or something (2006)

it was the finals vs Universidad de Chile also, which are our biggest rivals, we won them (yah, we had a shitty play off system at the time)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 16:46:18
June 29 2017 16:45 GMT
#6209
One of the FC Cincinnati players made this after the game last night (After beating the Chicago Fire).

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 29 2017 18:09 GMT
#6210
Eh wtf is happening
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 29 2017 18:09 GMT
#6211
7 1 incoming?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 29 2017 18:10 GMT
#6212
rofl already 2-0
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
June 29 2017 18:14 GMT
#6213
The amount of talent Germany is STUPIDLY sick.
They rested their whole A-team. Tons of people who theoretically could still play for the national team (Lahm, Schweini, Poldi,...) retired.
They divided the young players into two full tournament squads AND they reached the final with (most likely) both teams?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28910 Posts
June 29 2017 18:22 GMT
#6214
yeah lol. I've only heard of like half the players in their starting 11 (don't really follow bundesliga) and they still look world class.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 29 2017 18:26 GMT
#6215
On June 30 2017 03:14 sharkie wrote:
The amount of talent Germany is STUPIDLY sick.
They rested their whole A-team. Tons of people who theoretically could still play for the national team (Lahm, Schweini, Poldi,...) retired.
They divided the young players into two full tournament squads AND they reached the final with (most likely) both teams?

Their backline has been rather poor in both tournaments, that's the silver lining for the rest of the world. Just have to get through that midfield and not take too many goals.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 29 2017 18:32 GMT
#6216
On June 30 2017 03:26 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2017 03:14 sharkie wrote:
The amount of talent Germany is STUPIDLY sick.
They rested their whole A-team. Tons of people who theoretically could still play for the national team (Lahm, Schweini, Poldi,...) retired.
They divided the young players into two full tournament squads AND they reached the final with (most likely) both teams?

Their backline has been rather poor in both tournaments, that's the silver lining for the rest of the world. Just have to get through that midfield and not take too many goals.

I imagine it will look stronger in the A-team with Hummels and Boateng playing. The other guys still need time to grow while those 2 are world class already (when in form) and still have a few years in them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 29 2017 19:54 GMT
#6217
Nice game, too bad Germany killed it before the 10th minute. Werner creates a lot of space, I want to see what he can provide in the rematch against Chile.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 29 2017 20:12 GMT
#6218
Good thing we scored those 2 early goals, if we hadn't the game would have gotten rough. Defense was all over the place.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
June 30 2017 00:53 GMT
#6219
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 30 2017 10:40 GMT
#6220
On June 30 2017 09:53 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-

That comment wasn't even worth talking about.
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