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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/525253-2017-2018-football-thread#1
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 30 2017 10:45 GMT
#6221
Yeah, humanity gets worse and worse
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 30 2017 13:51 GMT
#6222
Don't see what the problem is, this went exactly the way it should.
He said something stupid, but clearly had no racist intentions, he apologized before it could go anywhere it shouldn't and after 12 hours you can't find it on any front pages anymore.
No one got to try to make it more than it was and no one tried to downplay it or hide it and suddenly it isn't really an issue at all.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 30 2017 14:16 GMT
#6223
He didn't say anything stupid. That's the whole point.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 14:31:59
June 30 2017 14:31 GMT
#6224
Ok let me rephrase it then, he said something that can have racist connotations about a black player, likely without realizing it.
When someone noticed he clarified what he said before anyone could make anything more of it than it was. It was exactly the right thing to do before either the over correct could turn it into racism and the racists could use it as a "legitimate" quote.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
June 30 2017 14:34 GMT
#6225
I'd go waste some hard earned Yuan on that Arsenal Chelsea pre-season in Beijing if I was actually in Beijing. I'm off on my summer adventures tomorrow. I'll see you guys a couple of weeks into the new season. Yes that is a ridiculously long holiday.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 30 2017 14:35 GMT
#6226
Would you say medias went ape shit on the matter?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 30 2017 14:36 GMT
#6227
On June 30 2017 23:34 Greg_J wrote:
I'd go waste some hard earned Yuan on that Arsenal Chelsea pre-season in Beijing if I was actually in Beijing. I'm off on my summer adventures tomorrow. I'll see you guys a couple of weeks into the new season. Yes that is a ridiculously long holiday.

LOL there is some good games during summer in China too! Have fun
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
June 30 2017 14:40 GMT
#6228
On June 30 2017 23:35 nojok wrote:
Would you say medias went ape shit on the matter?

Nope, completely gone before it could become a story. That is why i think clarifying/apologizing asap was the right thing to do. There is nothing to talk about because there is no ambiguity.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 30 2017 15:07 GMT
#6229
Hopefully it gets the help he needs and comes back.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
June 30 2017 15:54 GMT
#6230
On June 30 2017 19:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2017 09:53 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-

That comment wasn't even worth talking about.


what did he say? If I search for it I only get german articles.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 16:25:11
June 30 2017 16:15 GMT
#6231
On July 01 2017 00:54 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2017 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On June 30 2017 09:53 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-

That comment wasn't even worth talking about.


what did he say? If I search for it I only get german articles.


He used like a phrase that has the word monkey in it when describing a play involving a german player, except it had nothing to do with the guy being black and is just a common phrase that can be used on anyone. Since the world is so PC he corrected himself quickly. He shouldnt have to but he did the smart thing and did it. No issue, everyone move on. It didnt even make english Media which says enough of how much of a nothing burger it is.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 16:28:55
June 30 2017 16:24 GMT
#6232
On July 01 2017 00:54 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2017 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On June 30 2017 09:53 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-

That comment wasn't even worth talking about.


what did he say? If I search for it I only get german articles.

Rüdiger was diving. So he said something like "Rüdiger soll nicht den Affen machen" or "Rüdiger soll sich nicht zum Affen machen"(not sure exactly anymore which he used) which means, Rüdiger shouldn't be apeing around or Rüdiger shouldn't make himself look like an ape. The thing is, this is probably the most commonly used German idiom at all. It's such a common phrase. It literally means "don't make a fool of yourself" and has no racist connotation at all.

It's no biggie at all yet as you can imagine: immediately the social media was triggered and he was forced to apologise.


In other news: Wiedwald is joining Leeds for <1,000,000€ which is a crazy steal. He was never as bad as he was made out to be and his 2nd half of the last season was for the most part phenomenal. A big reason, next to Kruse and Bartels, why Werder could do what they did. If he would be coming from an English club he probably would have a 15,000,000 price tag on him
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 30 2017 17:01 GMT
#6233
On July 01 2017 01:24 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 00:54 haitike wrote:
On June 30 2017 19:40 Elentos wrote:
On June 30 2017 09:53 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm so annoyed that Tom Bartels was forced to apologize for his commentary -.-

That comment wasn't even worth talking about.


what did he say? If I search for it I only get german articles.

Rüdiger was diving. So he said something like "Rüdiger soll nicht den Affen machen" or "Rüdiger soll sich nicht zum Affen machen"(not sure exactly anymore which he used) which means, Rüdiger shouldn't be apeing around or Rüdiger shouldn't make himself look like an ape. The thing is, this is probably the most commonly used German idiom at all. It's such a common phrase. It literally means "don't make a fool of yourself" and has no racist connotation at all.

It's no biggie at all yet as you can imagine: immediately the social media was triggered and he was forced to apologise.


In other news: Wiedwald is joining Leeds for <1,000,000€ which is a crazy steal. He was never as bad as he was made out to be and his 2nd half of the last season was for the most part phenomenal. A big reason, next to Kruse and Bartels, why Werder could do what they did. If he would be coming from an English club he probably would have a 15,000,000 price tag on him

Players aren't overpriced because they're coming from an English club, it's because they're sold to an English club. Terrible mistake from werder if you're right. You have to ask PL clubs twice the price, there is also a 50% increase on English players base price, resulting in £50 millions Stones or £34 millions Pickford etc

On June 30 2017 23:40 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2017 23:35 nojok wrote:
Would you say medias went ape shit on the matter?

Nope, completely gone before it could become a story. That is why i think clarifying/apologizing asap was the right thing to do. There is nothing to talk about because there is no ambiguity.

It was just a pun.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 20:14:00
June 30 2017 20:13 GMT
#6234
Gnabry is starting to make me really angry
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 20:42:07
June 30 2017 20:40 GMT
#6235
Germany, master of the basics, ball controls, pass, defending, nothing fancy and excellent team work. I like thinking they're the default winner if no team is outstanding

On July 01 2017 05:13 TheNewEra wrote:
Gnabry is starting to make me really angry

Watch Deulofeu and feel better about Gnabry, I don't know what those two will do outside of warming the bench at Barca and Bayern.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 30 2017 20:41 GMT
#6236
I'm impressed they won. In theory they should've been weakened due to some players playing Confed Cup instead, but you never really know.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
June 30 2017 20:54 GMT
#6237
Germany did so many things right since 1990s
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
June 30 2017 21:21 GMT
#6238
Winning is just the icing on the cake. They showed resilience and will throughout the tourney. Key moment was in the game versus Italy. Italy pushed for the second goal which would have sent us out. Now the players need to keep working hard and not let the media hype them into high heaven.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 02 2017 01:24 GMT
#6239
To be honest, half of this german team will probably be of the starting XI in Russia 2018

They are so good it's incredible
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 02 2017 03:20 GMT
#6240
Now apparently Chalobah may be leaving. Arghh. If there's any young Chelsea player that deserves a run, it is him.

Letting go of Ake, maybe I can understand a little. With Azpi a deserving permanent part of the back 3, there's no room for another small sized centre back. Just bad luck for Ake, who played very convincingly in his limited appearances.

But Chalobah......we don't need Bakayoko to hinder his growth...
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