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On May 18 2017 06:45 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 06:28 sneirac wrote:On May 18 2017 05:46 Pr0wler wrote:On May 18 2017 05:37 sneirac wrote:On May 18 2017 05:28 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah and they win the league for the first time since ages. Btw the ref has completely lost the game. When you give 2nd yellow for simulation you better make damn sure you're right. Add in a blatant handball, (close) offside on 2-0 and the completely ridiculous handling of the two pen/dive situations (2nd yellow for dive one side, no call no card for ronaldo other side). Once again comes with a bitter side note. In other games Yainted is drawing 0-0 at home, Championship playoff game is heading to extras and Monaco is 15 mins away from winning the league Add to that 4 or 5 yellows agains Celta not given at least one of them second for the player. Not given foul at the penalty box line against Benzema, bad offside call against Benzema... And btw that no call against Ronaldo was actually a penalty, as it was the one against Aspas. And of course the push in the back of Ronaldo after the so called "dive"... Should be straight red. So yeah, I love how the mistakes in favor of the opponents of Real are never mentioned. I actually agreed with the previous poster that the ref has lost the game and listed the 3 situations that stood out the most for me, not that it was Real bias. I also never said ronaldo situation was a dive, just that two comparable situations were handled very differently in a very short time. But please be more of a victimized homer You havent even heard what he will have to say about Juve in the CL final yet.. Boring, sluggish, Ugly footy. Except when Mou did it at Real. Then its tactics xD
Yes, they are all of the listed above... And have a piece of wood instead of a centre forward. This is all true about Juventus. Doesn't matter how the final plays out.
Also I don't like Mourinho. Other than the La Liga title, he pretty much failed at Madrid (with half a billion euro transfer budget) and created extremely toxic enviornment - basically ruined the last 2-3 years of Casillas' career. So yeah, I have nothing good to say about that person and his football. We were better with Pellegrini and Schuster before that.
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On May 18 2017 07:22 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 06:45 Rebs wrote:On May 18 2017 06:28 sneirac wrote:On May 18 2017 05:46 Pr0wler wrote:On May 18 2017 05:37 sneirac wrote:On May 18 2017 05:28 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah and they win the league for the first time since ages. Btw the ref has completely lost the game. When you give 2nd yellow for simulation you better make damn sure you're right. Add in a blatant handball, (close) offside on 2-0 and the completely ridiculous handling of the two pen/dive situations (2nd yellow for dive one side, no call no card for ronaldo other side). Once again comes with a bitter side note. In other games Yainted is drawing 0-0 at home, Championship playoff game is heading to extras and Monaco is 15 mins away from winning the league Add to that 4 or 5 yellows agains Celta not given at least one of them second for the player. Not given foul at the penalty box line against Benzema, bad offside call against Benzema... And btw that no call against Ronaldo was actually a penalty, as it was the one against Aspas. And of course the push in the back of Ronaldo after the so called "dive"... Should be straight red. So yeah, I love how the mistakes in favor of the opponents of Real are never mentioned. I actually agreed with the previous poster that the ref has lost the game and listed the 3 situations that stood out the most for me, not that it was Real bias. I also never said ronaldo situation was a dive, just that two comparable situations were handled very differently in a very short time. But please be more of a victimized homer You havent even heard what he will have to say about Juve in the CL final yet.. Boring, sluggish, Ugly footy. Except when Mou did it at Real. Then its tactics xD Yes, they are all of the listed above... And have a piece of wood instead of a centre forward. This is all true about Juventus. Doesn't matter how the final plays out. Also I don't like Mourinho. Other than the La Liga title, he pretty much failed at Madrid (with half a billion euro transfer budget) and created extremely toxic enviornment - basically ruined the last 2-3 years of Casillas' career. So yeah, I have nothing good to say about that person and his football. We were better with Pellegrini and Schuster before that.
The last point was facetious, I agree with everything you say, although I think Juve is a more entertaining team then you are giving them credit for.
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On May 18 2017 05:37 sneirac wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 05:28 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah and they win the league for the first time since ages. Btw the ref has completely lost the game. When you give 2nd yellow for simulation you better make damn sure you're right. Add in a blatant handball, (close) offside on 2-0 and the completely ridiculous handling of the two pen/dive situations (2nd yellow for dive one side, no call no card for ronaldo other side). Once again comes with a bitter side note. In other games Yainted is drawing 0-0 at home, Championship playoff game is heading to extras and Monaco is 15 mins away from winning the league
pretty sure the game against Soton was away 
Ronaldo is kinda crazy though, it's like when you've been so good for so long, you got bored and decided to mix it up with your weak foot instead...
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On May 18 2017 09:01 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 05:37 sneirac wrote:On May 18 2017 05:28 Ysellian wrote:
Yeah and they win the league for the first time since ages. Btw the ref has completely lost the game. When you give 2nd yellow for simulation you better make damn sure you're right. Add in a blatant handball, (close) offside on 2-0 and the completely ridiculous handling of the two pen/dive situations (2nd yellow for dive one side, no call no card for ronaldo other side). Once again comes with a bitter side note. In other games Yainted is drawing 0-0 at home, Championship playoff game is heading to extras and Monaco is 15 mins away from winning the league pretty sure the game against Soton was away Ronaldo is kinda crazy though, it's like when you've been so good for so long, you got bored and decided to mix it up with your weak foot instead...
Haha, and then you score two with your left but your best foot stops working and you miss a complete sitter. I liked it when that happened, the guy is so ridiculously good little things like that make him human.
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I wish my team won with offside goals, undeserved reds and penalties. xD
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On May 18 2017 02:05 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 01:54 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On May 17 2017 20:16 Dingodile wrote:
we had like 70+ pages full of cr7 vs messi discussions every year. This season about 3 pages.
because we all know by now that messi has won that discussion. just look at last classico again ronaldo going to equal messi's ballon d'or though :p
That hurts. 5 good games in a season and he's going to win it.
Congrats Real for the league, they were super consistent and Barça lost points in stupid fashion when they just needed to be focused.
I don't buy the Real B team hype. I do think Zidane is doing an absolutely amazing job this season involving everyone but next year these players won't be satisfied as easily, especially after winning everything. If no one is injured, the starting 11 is pretty much fixed.
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On May 18 2017 01:54 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2017 20:16 Dingodile wrote:
we had like 70+ pages full of cr7 vs messi discussions every year. This season about 3 pages.
because we all know by now that messi has won that discussion. just look at last classico again
Sad that I was really following football during those times, would have loved to join the discussions xD
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On May 18 2017 10:50 WillyWanker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2017 02:05 sharkie wrote:On May 18 2017 01:54 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On May 17 2017 20:16 Dingodile wrote:
we had like 70+ pages full of cr7 vs messi discussions every year. This season about 3 pages.
because we all know by now that messi has won that discussion. just look at last classico again ronaldo going to equal messi's ballon d'or though :p That hurts. 5 good games in a season and he's going to win it. Congrats Real for the league, they were super consistent and Barça lost points in stupid fashion when they just needed to be focused. I don't buy the Real B team hype. I do think Zidane is doing an absolutely amazing job this season involving everyone but next year these players won't be satisfied as easily, especially after winning everything. If no one is injured, the starting 11 is pretty much fixed.
Well I think you can believe the hype and also agree with your statement since I am exactly that guy. Starting 11 for big games is fixed but for standard league games I think he will keep rotating and will manage to appease some players. Obviously others like Morata, Bale/Isco will not be satisfied with that.
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competitive league when 2+ teams have 90+ pts at the end? It's far more a sign that the league is too easy for them.
It's far more competitive when 2+ teams are fighting for the championship when they have 75+ pts.
This La liga season has been extemely boring until el clasico few weeks ago.
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On May 18 2017 14:25 Dingodile wrote:
competitive league when 2+ teams have 90+ pts at the end? It's far more a sign that the league is too easy for them.
It's far more competitive when 2+ teams are fighting for the championship when they have 75+ pts.
This La liga season has been extemely boring until el clasico few weeks ago.
What multiple teams with 75+ are fighting for championships? I dont disagree with that sentiment but the idea that there are many teams "fighting" for championships is all hype and perception. The only difference is the actors change. The past decade its been obvious the PL has had effectiely had two horse races with a bunch of hyped up also rans, on the odd occasion there is at best a third team in the mix...
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But this season for sure the La Liga was a 2 horse race at best with at one stage around club world cup it was Real Madrid's title in the bag. Then they shat the bed and El Classico made it interesting. Last year's La Liga was the only one i can think of where it was a close 3 horse race which was fun. Valencia even when they won it, won it comfortable afaik.
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How many "horses" did EPL have this year ? One and a half. From the big leagues Serie A is the only one with more than two title contenders. La Liga and Serie A are the only leagues with interesting last rounds. All other major leagues ended with 2-3-4 games left to be played.
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Italy has more than 1 title contender? Since when? Juventus walked that league since Conte was there which was 2011 onwards. This season a bit closer but still win the league if they dont lose next game. Bit of a wobble but when the same team win the league for 7th consecutive season it aint competitive.
England it was clearly a 2 horse race btw. Same as La Liga is this year? Premier league in fairness last two season has been a 2 horse race by xmas which is unlike the normal times.
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Both Roma and Napoli had the chance to win it. Even now Napoli still has theoretical chance. Juventus were not that convincing this year.
I'm talking about the current year, otherwise Serie A is indeed dominated by Juventus.
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I think the difference is that although the EPL has been a two horse race for most of this season and Leicester and Spurs last season. Before the season started no one knew who was going to win or even who would be in the race. I couldn't have guessed that it would be Chelsea vs Spurs at the start of the season. No one was looking at Chelsea for the tittle this year. Especially after Arsenal smashed them back in September. Everyone was talking about Man CIty and Guardiola, Klopp at Liverpool (Liverpool made a cracking start that they couldn't keep up) and even Arsenal were looking good before they collapsed.
Sure there has been no final day close finish. But no one could have predicted what was going to happen at the start of the season. Germany and Italy you could have guessed, France has thrown up a suprise (and good on Monaco by the way. I think everyone's happy it's not PSG again even if Monaco don't have any fans. Is it worthy of note that the club with the lowest attendance in the French league won the league this year. That can't happen every year.) Spain has grown more interesting with the rise of the second Madrid team but it's hardly a suprise that Barcelona and Real are fighting for the title again.
edit: Mind you the quality has to rise in the EPL at some point. The standard is so far behind the best right now.
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no doubt the premier league is so close,every team is terrible.Poor Guardiola i really dont know how can he implement his playstyle in that mess.
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On May 18 2017 18:11 Pandemona wrote:
Italy has more than 1 title contender? Since when? Juventus walked that league since Conte was there which was 2011 onwards. This season a bit closer but still win the league if they dont lose next game. Bit of a wobble but when the same team win the league for 7th consecutive season it aint competitive.
England it was clearly a 2 horse race btw. Same as La Liga is this year? Premier league in fairness last two season has been a 2 horse race by xmas which is unlike the normal times.
I mean it may feel like that to fans of both clubs, but for neutrals Chelsea had the league in the bag in January. That is the difference between La Liga, because Barcelona have a proven track record of coming back again from a large point difference, which if I'm honest Spurs don't have. If Chelsea was in Spurs spot I think it would have been much more interesting at the top. Hell Spurs even had an amazing second half and still saw Chelsea lift the trophy 2 matches before the end.
Now I don't think Italy is much better at the top if I'm honest. Roma and Napoli for me never feel like they are serious contenders either. Hopefully Juventus get knocked from their throne in the next seasons.
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I'd still prefer a 2 horse race if the horses are different every year to the same top3 horses all decade.
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