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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/525253-2017-2018-football-thread#1
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 20 2017 12:43 GMT
#5241
It seems to me he's pushing the defender's arm away which results in the knock on the head. It's a tough call even with the video. No one expected VAR to solve everything anyway but the break was indeed long.

I would not mind seeing the video to rule out offside goals next season and wait more testing in lower divisions before implementing it further at the very top.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 20 2017 12:50 GMT
#5242
Come on guys. I am not the type of person who defends refs but it's the first time for most of them. Obv. it won't be perfect unless they do start doing it every game every week. Also since the play was stopped anyway, where is the difference between 2 or 4 minutes?

Also correct decision, really like the VAR so far.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 20 2017 13:03 GMT
#5243
On May 20 2017 21:50 sharkie wrote:
Come on guys. I am not the type of person who defends refs but it's the first time for most of them. Obv. it won't be perfect unless they do start doing it every game every week. Also since the play was stopped anyway, where is the difference between 2 or 4 minutes?

Also correct decision, really like the VAR so far.

Incident: 74:00
break in play/treatment starts: 74:10
play ready to resume/ref starts talking to VAR: 75:20
VAR signal: 76:00
red card: 77:00

The referee taking a minute or 90 secs to look at video no problem, but first taking over a minute while nothing happens before the VARs contact the referee and then taking another 45 seconds where he could have walked over and started looking is too long and needs to be shortened/smoothed out.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 20 2017 13:07 GMT
#5244
On May 20 2017 22:03 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 21:50 sharkie wrote:
Come on guys. I am not the type of person who defends refs but it's the first time for most of them. Obv. it won't be perfect unless they do start doing it every game every week. Also since the play was stopped anyway, where is the difference between 2 or 4 minutes?

Also correct decision, really like the VAR so far.

Incident: 74:00
break in play/treatment starts: 74:10
play ready to resume/ref starts talking to VAR: 75:20
VAR signal: 76:00
red card: 77:00

The referee taking a minute or 90 secs to look at video no problem, but first taking over a minute while nothing happens before the VARs contact the referee and then taking another 45 seconds where he could have walked over and started looking is too long and needs to be shortened/smoothed out.

Why does the main ref even has to see the video? Imo he should just follow the video ref decision.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 20 2017 13:09 GMT
#5245
Yeah following VAR only causes issues for me though.
In England the discussion at the moment is that the referee asociation wants the final say always to be with the referee. VAR for me should only be there to say "hey ref come check this out" and go from there. For me the VAR should have said come check this out ref whilst the player was getting treatment, but hey it's early days right.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 20 2017 13:13 GMT
#5246
On May 20 2017 22:07 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 22:03 sneirac wrote:
On May 20 2017 21:50 sharkie wrote:
Come on guys. I am not the type of person who defends refs but it's the first time for most of them. Obv. it won't be perfect unless they do start doing it every game every week. Also since the play was stopped anyway, where is the difference between 2 or 4 minutes?

Also correct decision, really like the VAR so far.

Incident: 74:00
break in play/treatment starts: 74:10
play ready to resume/ref starts talking to VAR: 75:20
VAR signal: 76:00
red card: 77:00

The referee taking a minute or 90 secs to look at video no problem, but first taking over a minute while nothing happens before the VARs contact the referee and then taking another 45 seconds where he could have walked over and started looking is too long and needs to be shortened/smoothed out.

Why does the main ref even has to see the video? Imo he should just follow the video ref decision.

Because some situations are a judgment call and you want them to be consistent over the course of the whole game, on some calls teh referee himself needs to decide how bad a foul/incident is.
It is annoying but probably necessary.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 20 2017 13:26 GMT
#5247
On May 20 2017 22:07 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 22:03 sneirac wrote:
On May 20 2017 21:50 sharkie wrote:
Come on guys. I am not the type of person who defends refs but it's the first time for most of them. Obv. it won't be perfect unless they do start doing it every game every week. Also since the play was stopped anyway, where is the difference between 2 or 4 minutes?

Also correct decision, really like the VAR so far.

Incident: 74:00
break in play/treatment starts: 74:10
play ready to resume/ref starts talking to VAR: 75:20
VAR signal: 76:00
red card: 77:00

The referee taking a minute or 90 secs to look at video no problem, but first taking over a minute while nothing happens before the VARs contact the referee and then taking another 45 seconds where he could have walked over and started looking is too long and needs to be shortened/smoothed out.

Why does the main ref even has to see the video? Imo he should just follow the video ref decision.


Because we still live in the middle ages where only one person has the authority to decide things.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 13:50:12
May 20 2017 13:32 GMT
#5248
Lahm and Xabi Alonso are retiring, 2 of the best i saw in my life

So sad







Im going to cry when the whistle is blown
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 20 2017 15:06 GMT
#5249


96 minute winner = Promoted to Ligue1
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 15:21:02
May 20 2017 15:20 GMT
#5250
Hamburg score in 88th and will avoid relegation playoffs if it stays that way, opponent Wolfsburg will have to face Braunschweig
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 20 2017 15:23 GMT
#5251
Augsburg have played big games the last 4. Everyone expected them to gain 0 points and thus get relegated. Incredible once again
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 20 2017 15:26 GMT
#5252
They just refuse to die ffs,
How you feeling about that opponent @TheNewEra?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 20 2017 15:27 GMT
#5253
On May 21 2017 00:26 sneirac wrote:
They just refuse to die ffs,
How you feeling about that opponent @TheNewEra?


You mean HSV?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 20 2017 15:28 GMT
#5254
After Bayern Leipzig last week, bundesliga provided me a great game again with Dortmund Werder. I really should watch this league more often. Also players behave way better than in other leagues.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 20 2017 15:29 GMT
#5255
On May 21 2017 00:27 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2017 00:26 sneirac wrote:
They just refuse to die ffs,
How you feeling about that opponent @TheNewEra?


You mean HSV?

yeah, termed "The Unflushables" on reddit.

Also of note, Braunschweig and Woflsburg are like 30km apart
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 15:34:55
May 20 2017 15:34 GMT
#5256
Phillip Lahm

Xabi Alonso
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 20 2017 15:54 GMT
#5257
Ok, im so fucking sad

Danke Lahm, Gracias Xabi
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 16:36:50
May 20 2017 16:17 GMT
#5258
On May 21 2017 00:26 sneirac wrote:
They just refuse to die ffs,
How you feeling about that opponent @TheNewEra?

I would have been most happy with Augsburg but let's be honest... we would be the underdogs against any of the three possible opponents. Every of the 3 possible matchups would have been attractive in their own way tho

HSV: Would be attractive just to shut them up I'm pretty sure if we would have won against HSV we would be the Kings of millions of Germans for a night Also this duel would be the most heated. Nordallianz vs Achse des Bösen. I hate those guys. They managed to stay up with a performance this season which wouldn't have been enough for the Top4 in the 2. Bundesliga. They are like my great-grandma. Invincible. Lived up to 103 years old but couldn't shower or wipe her ass for the last 20...

Augsburg: Just because I think we have the best chances against them out of the three.

Wolfsburg: 25km. Nachbarschaftsduell. Derby without the heat. Nuff said. It's Vatertag so we can atleast start at the half and do a Bollerwagentour

It's in our own hands. If we play like against Bielefeld we're gonna lose. If we play like we did against Union I think we can be pretty equal. Especially if Wolfsburg moral is shattered.

I don't think we're gonna win but I hope that in our Jubiläumssaison our players will show us some fight and spirit. Maybe we can pull a HSV and go thru on 2 draws.

Edit: It's gonna be interesting to see how many people are gonna be there in Braunschweig colors. Roughly a 1/3 of the attendees in Wolfsburg are usually Braunschweig fans/people from Braunschweig who want to see 1st League football.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 18:31:21
May 20 2017 18:30 GMT
#5259
Had to attend a course today far away from home. Went there with a co-worker who's a die-hard Bremen fan. Ended at 1600. We had fun on that car drive :D
(until Hamburg scored. We are fucking pissed. Just relegate them to 50th league already.)
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 18:38:28
May 20 2017 18:36 GMT
#5260
On May 21 2017 03:30 smr wrote:
Had to attend a course today far away from home. Went there with a co-worker who's a die-hard Bremen fan. Ended at 1600. We had fun on that car drive :D
(until Hamburg scored. We are fucking pissed. Just relegate them to 50th league already.)

sigh... my HSV friends are already coming with the :"Next year we're gonna attack for Europa League" speeches again. Just like the last 3 years. They never learn. And just like in Karlsruhe they are once again celebrating as if they just won the Bundesliga. So obnoxious.

Prediction for the next season: They are gonna fire Gisdol after like 8 matches. Is Labbadia currently free? Or Slomka?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
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