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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 04 2017 01:20 GMT
#3021
On January 04 2017 07:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 07:42 Shellshock wrote:
On January 04 2017 07:37 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Why? For supporting the students? Or did her Sandusky someone? He was on the upward trajectory with Minnesota.

www.espn.com

from what I've seen it's believed to be a mix of supporting the boycott and they have a new AD that wants his own guy


That's what it's looking like. Damn shame. They were on the way. They won't get any big names with this move. Too heartless and, imo, unprofessional.

They seem to think they are going to reel in PJ Fleck. Or at least that's how the media is spinning it
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 04 2017 02:48 GMT
#3022
I hope for him he doesn't go there. Their game against Wisconsin was impressive, probably the best I've seen a clearly outmatched team do since Boise on a big stage. Would much prefer to see him at a school that can do damage in a P5 consistently.
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 04 2017 05:40 GMT
#3023
On January 04 2017 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 07:39 xDaunt wrote:
This is one of the most brutal sports editorial pieces that I have ever seen:

SANTA CLARA - Jed York gave the stupidest answer at his Monday news conference. I’m saying it was the stupidest answer I’ve heard in 37 years in this business.

He was doing his usual blah-blah about how he wants to improve his miserable product – the team. So, I grabbed the media microphone and said, “You dismissed your general manager and coach because they didn’t reach certain performance standards.”

“That’s part of it,” he interrupted. I didn’t need his interruption.

“OK, let’s stick to that part,” I insisted. “Why shouldn’t you be dismissed or reassigned for the same reasons?”

Meaning he is easily as incompetent as just-fired Chip Kelly and Trent Baalke. Jed looked at me. Swallowed hard. You could see him thinking, “Are people allowed to ask questions like that? Of me?”

Hell, yes.

“Again,” he said, “nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory.”:

“Say something,” I said.

“We are going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case, but that’s the fact.”

That was the stupid answer I’ve been referring to. The stupidest.

I mean, did he have “You don’t dismiss owners” written on a cue card? Did he walk into the room ready to claim his owner’s privilege? Did his head of public relations tell him, “When Lowell asks a really tough one about your level of competence, just tell him you own the team and he and the fans can go screw themselves.” Or did Jed come up with that all on his own?

Here is an equivalent statement for “You don’t dismiss owners.”

“It’s my ball and we play by my rules.”

Nerds who said that in Brooklyn when I was a kid also stuck out their tongues at us. Jed just stuck out his tongue at the entire fan base. He said, in effect, “You can’t touch me and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

One question: Since when is Junior the owner? Excuse me, but I’ve always thought Mommy is the owner. I’ve always thought Mommy can rescind his owner privileges. If only she would.

Monday was not a great day for Jed. Had the dry mouth. Looked morally offended that we media lowlifes held him accountable. My heart broke for him.

A while later, Grant Cohn asked this one. “You said you own this football team. A lot of owners don’t make football decisions. What’s your response to those who say you should remove yourself from football decisions and hire a president to run the show?”

“We have a president,” Jed shot back. Snotty tone. “His name is Al Guido, and I don’t make football decisions.”

But Jed does make football decisions. He will make one soon when he hires a new coach and GM. So he wasn’t being honest. What a surprise from a moral paragon like him. As far as Al Guido goes, what does he know about football? I like Al. He is a nice man, full of pep. But he is not a football expert.

Later, Brian Murphy asked the same question. Who will guide Jed through the crucial hiring process, so he won’t louse up yet again? Murph didn’t exactly phrase it like that. He’s more polite than I am.

“Obviously, my uncle is somebody that I talk to on a very regular basis,” Jed intoned to start a marathon-long answer. “There are several other very well respected people, people that have been a part of this organization in the past, that have hired head coaches in that past, certainly coaches that I know that aren’t getting back into the game that have been Super Bowl winning coaches and Hall-of-Fame-caliber coaches and some of them are in the Hall of Fame. I’m not going to name people by names, but there are certainly enough people that I know and trust and respect that I think the world would trust and respect their opinion. I just want to give them the respect of their privacy and their anonymity.”

I cut him off. His answer was so saccharine sweet I thought I’d get diabetes. I didn’t even have the microphone but I blurted out, “It would give people more confidence in you if you name a few names. I think what Grant and Murph (are) getting at is that you have good intentions, but in the last three years, your intentions haven’t come to fruition and the feeling is among people who follow the team that maybe you’re not quite well enough connected and don’t have a Bill Walsh with you? Eddie DeBartolo Jr. had Bill. Eddie was not the expert. Bill was the expert.”

“And I’m not the expert either.”

“I understand,” I said.

“And this isn’t a debate,” he said. “If you want to sit down and have a conversation, we can.”

“Who are the people that you can go to to help you to make your vision come true?”

“Out of respect to them, I’m not going to throw people’s names out there to use those people’s names.”

Say what, Jed? Out of respect, you won’t name names. Are these people in the Witness Protection Program? Are they internet hackers or drug lords? It would be good to name names. Wouldn’t hurt anyone. Would show you have connections beyond Paraag Marathe, another non-football operative. Would show you are serious.

Jed sure names names when it suits him. He named Guido. He named his uncle Eddie. He trots out Eddie’s name whenever he is in trouble. He cries uncle.

Please leave Eddie out of this, Jed. He’s a great guy. He’s retired. He didn’t create this mess. You did.

And you know what, Jed, I don’t believe you have names to name. You are clueless just like you were clueless last year and the year before. A lost boy. Mark my words. You are going to make a mess of this. It’s what you always do.


Source.

I feel embarrassed for the writer. Like, I bet his wife/kids are hiding in the basement to hide thier shame at his level of patheticness. Not that York is good, but this is just a series of masturbatory straw men strung together.


"Snotty tone."
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 05 2017 06:06 GMT
#3024
Local beat writers have a tendency to take the game way too seriously. This reminded of some Arizona writer getting into it with their qb because he didn't look sad enough on the bench during a loss.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 05 2017 12:05 GMT
#3025
fleck to minnesota picking up more traction past couple of days
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 05 2017 13:41 GMT
#3026
Wasn't he tied to Indiana at some point or another B1G team?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
January 05 2017 13:43 GMT
#3027
Nah, that was all just speculation. Minnesota looks more and more like Fleck territory.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 05 2017 16:08 GMT
#3028
I wouldn't take the job if I was Fleck. If he saw how quick they dismissed Clays for sticking by his players and not being part of the PC police, he should know he has no room for error and he becomes a "yes" man.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 05 2017 21:53 GMT
#3029
On January 05 2017 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Wasn't he tied to Indiana at some point or another B1G team?

It was Purdue where it was "all but done" and was just smoke
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 05 2017 22:57 GMT
#3030
Now there is a rumor of Les Miles headed that way to Minnesota.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 05 2017 23:06 GMT
#3031
Jay Gruden fired everyone on the Defensive side of the ball. That's incredible.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 05 2017 23:12 GMT
#3032
they were incredibly bad. they gave up like > 50% 3rd down conversion and all our young players regressed. Breeland was terrible. Preston Smith was terrible. None of the rookies really got any better throughout the year. pretty much only Norman, Kerrigan, Murphy, and Baker played like actual NFL starters.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 06 2017 01:18 GMT
#3033
anybody following the drama behind the guy from clemson who loves to finger people's buttholes on the field? pretty hilarious.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 06 2017 02:02 GMT
#3034
I've seen the gif of it. He has some issues he needs to resolve. I don't think Michael Smith (The gay Mizzou player) did anything like that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2017 02:11 GMT
#3035
On January 06 2017 10:18 GTR wrote:
anybody following the drama behind the guy from clemson who loves to finger people's buttholes on the field? pretty hilarious.

Boulware's response is hilarious

Also Minneapolis media reporting that Fleck will be named Minnesota head coach tomorrow
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14108 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-06 04:11:05
January 06 2017 03:56 GMT
#3036
Les miles in minnesota would break my mind. If they can actualy get fleck I'll calm down and forgive them of everything.

Gophers did get their motto from a rowing competition. It would fit that fleck would come to MN.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2017 04:05 GMT
#3037
The update on reddit says the Les Miles thing is all bs because he was spotted at his daughter's basketball game when he was allegedly in Minnesota
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 06 2017 04:41 GMT
#3038
We'll find out soon enough huh? I hate the CFB off season. Saturday will be good for my soul. Playoffs are pretty much the only real time I pay attention to every team and the numbers.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2017 21:56 GMT
#3039
Fleck is going to Minnesota. apparently $21 mil over 6 years
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 06 2017 23:08 GMT
#3040
wonder how many wmu commits will flip to minn
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