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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 03 2017 02:25 GMT
#3001
This was a more exciting game than I was expecting
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 03 2017 02:30 GMT
#3002
has to be my favorite game this year for sure.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2017 02:51 GMT
#3003
Rubbish game. More evidence CFB needs to change the rules to not be absolute nonsense.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 03 2017 05:08 GMT
#3004
auburn blew dick this year - not surprised by this result
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 03 2017 05:22 GMT
#3005
Congrats to Perine tho, all time rusher at Oklahoma has to feel good.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 03 2017 07:22 GMT
#3006
As good as this day was, I feel slightly empty. Like this bowl season just didn't live up to the hype I built up in my mind.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2017 13:26 GMT
#3007
On January 03 2017 16:22 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
As good as this day was, I feel slightly empty. Like this bowl season just didn't live up to the hype I built up in my mind.


I think the Big 10's lack of upsets made us all overly confident in some of those higher ranked teams, but a lot of the time they seemed to be the bad-old Big10 that lacked the true talent and playmakers that blow games open against well coached defense.

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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 03 2017 14:07 GMT
#3008
I think you're right. Such a sour taste. Oh well. Now to figure out how to survive until next year.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 03 2017 16:30 GMT
#3009
One can only feel sorry for fans of the Buffalo Bills after the most recent revelations that Whalen did not know and had no input in the Rex Ryan dismissal. It seems that communication is hard.
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StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
January 03 2017 16:51 GMT
#3010
On January 02 2017 13:31 GTR wrote:
man seahawks are going to feast on the poor lions next week

who'll be mvp? rodgers, brady, elliot or ryan?


i dont think Brady should be MVP.
first overall, im not a brady hater (i think he's GOAT).
no doubt, he played a tremendous season, but
1) the four game suspension, so that his absolute numbers are not enough.
2) he is playing in the best team overall. (for example only 250 points against). I think the pats would have made the playoffs with Jimmy G. as well.
3) the schedule: Brady played only against 3 playoff teams. PIT without Big Ben and MIA without Tannehill in a pretty meaningless week 17 game. Biggest challange all season long was SEA and this game was lost with a pretty average Brady (0 TD, INT). Not saying, brady hadnt MVP worthy games, but lighting up Jets, Rams, Browns and so on is not enough, imo. Against Denver with its strong secondary Brady went (16/32, 188, 0 TD, 0 INT).

In summery thats not enough for a MVP.

i would love to see Elliot winning the MVP, but he wont.
to me it was the most stunning performance. Despite the impressive performance of prescott, the cowboys totally relied on elliots production. and lining up behind a rookie is not the same like behind Rodgers, Brady, Ryan. He made the cowboys a true SB contender. In the end he is a RB and a Rookie. He will get the Rookie of the year award and thats it.

so it comes down to Ryan or Rodgers.
Ryan would deserve it so much. His numbers are spectecular and hes always underrated. He had the best season of all contenders and with this defense the falcons needed his constant production. On the other hand, what rodgers did is simply insane. you can say, he had some bad games earlier on. but in fact he carrierd the team all season long. i think no other player in this conversation had to overcome more troubles. struggling defense, no rungame, no other QB got more effected more by drops (359 yrds). keeping the team alive until they could put things together, was all on Rodgers. Remember beside his pass TD he also ran all TD untill week 12. he also rushed for 25 first downs. the packers would not be only no playoff team with him. they would probably be like a 3-13 team.
So I think Ryan had the best season and if you go by the numbers, Ryan is the MVP. if you take is more by the name of the award, most valuable player, its hard to take someone over Rodgers.

wow... that was way more lenghtily then intended.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2017 17:53 GMT
#3011
The Elliot problem is he wasn't even the best RB in the league, and arguably wasn't better than good, but not great, Demarco Murray was in 2014
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-03 19:34:37
January 03 2017 19:33 GMT
#3012
On January 04 2017 01:30 TanGeng wrote:
One can only feel sorry for fans of the Buffalo Bills after the most recent revelations that Whalen did not know and had no input in the Rex Ryan dismissal. It seems that communication is hard.


I can only imagine that Ryan pissed off the owner.

That said, it's really weird that they'd be having their weekly meeting on the last week of the season and the owner has decided not to keep the coach but hasn't mentioned it yet.

Also, Rogers has one questionable MVP so I wonder if they'll hold that against him.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-03 22:13:51
January 03 2017 22:13 GMT
#3013
Local media is reporting that Tracy Claeys has been fired as the University of Minnesota head football coach
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/01/03/tracy-claeys-out-as-gopher-football-coach/
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-03 22:38:37
January 03 2017 22:37 GMT
#3014
Why? For supporting the students? Or did her Sandusky someone? He was on the upward trajectory with Minnesota.

www.espn.com
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 03 2017 22:39 GMT
#3015
This is one of the most brutal sports editorial pieces that I have ever seen:

SANTA CLARA - Jed York gave the stupidest answer at his Monday news conference. I’m saying it was the stupidest answer I’ve heard in 37 years in this business.

He was doing his usual blah-blah about how he wants to improve his miserable product – the team. So, I grabbed the media microphone and said, “You dismissed your general manager and coach because they didn’t reach certain performance standards.”

“That’s part of it,” he interrupted. I didn’t need his interruption.

“OK, let’s stick to that part,” I insisted. “Why shouldn’t you be dismissed or reassigned for the same reasons?”

Meaning he is easily as incompetent as just-fired Chip Kelly and Trent Baalke. Jed looked at me. Swallowed hard. You could see him thinking, “Are people allowed to ask questions like that? Of me?”

Hell, yes.

“Again,” he said, “nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory.”:

“Say something,” I said.

“We are going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case, but that’s the fact.”

That was the stupid answer I’ve been referring to. The stupidest.

I mean, did he have “You don’t dismiss owners” written on a cue card? Did he walk into the room ready to claim his owner’s privilege? Did his head of public relations tell him, “When Lowell asks a really tough one about your level of competence, just tell him you own the team and he and the fans can go screw themselves.” Or did Jed come up with that all on his own?

Here is an equivalent statement for “You don’t dismiss owners.”

“It’s my ball and we play by my rules.”

Nerds who said that in Brooklyn when I was a kid also stuck out their tongues at us. Jed just stuck out his tongue at the entire fan base. He said, in effect, “You can’t touch me and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

One question: Since when is Junior the owner? Excuse me, but I’ve always thought Mommy is the owner. I’ve always thought Mommy can rescind his owner privileges. If only she would.

Monday was not a great day for Jed. Had the dry mouth. Looked morally offended that we media lowlifes held him accountable. My heart broke for him.

A while later, Grant Cohn asked this one. “You said you own this football team. A lot of owners don’t make football decisions. What’s your response to those who say you should remove yourself from football decisions and hire a president to run the show?”

“We have a president,” Jed shot back. Snotty tone. “His name is Al Guido, and I don’t make football decisions.”

But Jed does make football decisions. He will make one soon when he hires a new coach and GM. So he wasn’t being honest. What a surprise from a moral paragon like him. As far as Al Guido goes, what does he know about football? I like Al. He is a nice man, full of pep. But he is not a football expert.

Later, Brian Murphy asked the same question. Who will guide Jed through the crucial hiring process, so he won’t louse up yet again? Murph didn’t exactly phrase it like that. He’s more polite than I am.

“Obviously, my uncle is somebody that I talk to on a very regular basis,” Jed intoned to start a marathon-long answer. “There are several other very well respected people, people that have been a part of this organization in the past, that have hired head coaches in that past, certainly coaches that I know that aren’t getting back into the game that have been Super Bowl winning coaches and Hall-of-Fame-caliber coaches and some of them are in the Hall of Fame. I’m not going to name people by names, but there are certainly enough people that I know and trust and respect that I think the world would trust and respect their opinion. I just want to give them the respect of their privacy and their anonymity.”

I cut him off. His answer was so saccharine sweet I thought I’d get diabetes. I didn’t even have the microphone but I blurted out, “It would give people more confidence in you if you name a few names. I think what Grant and Murph (are) getting at is that you have good intentions, but in the last three years, your intentions haven’t come to fruition and the feeling is among people who follow the team that maybe you’re not quite well enough connected and don’t have a Bill Walsh with you? Eddie DeBartolo Jr. had Bill. Eddie was not the expert. Bill was the expert.”

“And I’m not the expert either.”

“I understand,” I said.

“And this isn’t a debate,” he said. “If you want to sit down and have a conversation, we can.”

“Who are the people that you can go to to help you to make your vision come true?”

“Out of respect to them, I’m not going to throw people’s names out there to use those people’s names.”

Say what, Jed? Out of respect, you won’t name names. Are these people in the Witness Protection Program? Are they internet hackers or drug lords? It would be good to name names. Wouldn’t hurt anyone. Would show you have connections beyond Paraag Marathe, another non-football operative. Would show you are serious.

Jed sure names names when it suits him. He named Guido. He named his uncle Eddie. He trots out Eddie’s name whenever he is in trouble. He cries uncle.

Please leave Eddie out of this, Jed. He’s a great guy. He’s retired. He didn’t create this mess. You did.

And you know what, Jed, I don’t believe you have names to name. You are clueless just like you were clueless last year and the year before. A lost boy. Mark my words. You are going to make a mess of this. It’s what you always do.


Source.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 03 2017 22:42 GMT
#3016
On January 04 2017 07:37 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Why? For supporting the students? Or did her Sandusky someone? He was on the upward trajectory with Minnesota.

www.espn.com

from what I've seen it's believed to be a mix of supporting the boycott and they have a new AD that wants his own guy
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9040 Posts
January 03 2017 22:50 GMT
#3017
On January 04 2017 07:42 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 07:37 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Why? For supporting the students? Or did her Sandusky someone? He was on the upward trajectory with Minnesota.

www.espn.com

from what I've seen it's believed to be a mix of supporting the boycott and they have a new AD that wants his own guy


That's what it's looking like. Damn shame. They were on the way. They won't get any big names with this move. Too heartless and, imo, unprofessional.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2017 23:18 GMT
#3018
On January 04 2017 07:39 xDaunt wrote:
This is one of the most brutal sports editorial pieces that I have ever seen:

Show nested quote +
SANTA CLARA - Jed York gave the stupidest answer at his Monday news conference. I’m saying it was the stupidest answer I’ve heard in 37 years in this business.

He was doing his usual blah-blah about how he wants to improve his miserable product – the team. So, I grabbed the media microphone and said, “You dismissed your general manager and coach because they didn’t reach certain performance standards.”

“That’s part of it,” he interrupted. I didn’t need his interruption.

“OK, let’s stick to that part,” I insisted. “Why shouldn’t you be dismissed or reassigned for the same reasons?”

Meaning he is easily as incompetent as just-fired Chip Kelly and Trent Baalke. Jed looked at me. Swallowed hard. You could see him thinking, “Are people allowed to ask questions like that? Of me?”

Hell, yes.

“Again,” he said, “nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory.”:

“Say something,” I said.

“We are going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case, but that’s the fact.”

That was the stupid answer I’ve been referring to. The stupidest.

I mean, did he have “You don’t dismiss owners” written on a cue card? Did he walk into the room ready to claim his owner’s privilege? Did his head of public relations tell him, “When Lowell asks a really tough one about your level of competence, just tell him you own the team and he and the fans can go screw themselves.” Or did Jed come up with that all on his own?

Here is an equivalent statement for “You don’t dismiss owners.”

“It’s my ball and we play by my rules.”

Nerds who said that in Brooklyn when I was a kid also stuck out their tongues at us. Jed just stuck out his tongue at the entire fan base. He said, in effect, “You can’t touch me and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

One question: Since when is Junior the owner? Excuse me, but I’ve always thought Mommy is the owner. I’ve always thought Mommy can rescind his owner privileges. If only she would.

Monday was not a great day for Jed. Had the dry mouth. Looked morally offended that we media lowlifes held him accountable. My heart broke for him.

A while later, Grant Cohn asked this one. “You said you own this football team. A lot of owners don’t make football decisions. What’s your response to those who say you should remove yourself from football decisions and hire a president to run the show?”

“We have a president,” Jed shot back. Snotty tone. “His name is Al Guido, and I don’t make football decisions.”

But Jed does make football decisions. He will make one soon when he hires a new coach and GM. So he wasn’t being honest. What a surprise from a moral paragon like him. As far as Al Guido goes, what does he know about football? I like Al. He is a nice man, full of pep. But he is not a football expert.

Later, Brian Murphy asked the same question. Who will guide Jed through the crucial hiring process, so he won’t louse up yet again? Murph didn’t exactly phrase it like that. He’s more polite than I am.

“Obviously, my uncle is somebody that I talk to on a very regular basis,” Jed intoned to start a marathon-long answer. “There are several other very well respected people, people that have been a part of this organization in the past, that have hired head coaches in that past, certainly coaches that I know that aren’t getting back into the game that have been Super Bowl winning coaches and Hall-of-Fame-caliber coaches and some of them are in the Hall of Fame. I’m not going to name people by names, but there are certainly enough people that I know and trust and respect that I think the world would trust and respect their opinion. I just want to give them the respect of their privacy and their anonymity.”

I cut him off. His answer was so saccharine sweet I thought I’d get diabetes. I didn’t even have the microphone but I blurted out, “It would give people more confidence in you if you name a few names. I think what Grant and Murph (are) getting at is that you have good intentions, but in the last three years, your intentions haven’t come to fruition and the feeling is among people who follow the team that maybe you’re not quite well enough connected and don’t have a Bill Walsh with you? Eddie DeBartolo Jr. had Bill. Eddie was not the expert. Bill was the expert.”

“And I’m not the expert either.”

“I understand,” I said.

“And this isn’t a debate,” he said. “If you want to sit down and have a conversation, we can.”

“Who are the people that you can go to to help you to make your vision come true?”

“Out of respect to them, I’m not going to throw people’s names out there to use those people’s names.”

Say what, Jed? Out of respect, you won’t name names. Are these people in the Witness Protection Program? Are they internet hackers or drug lords? It would be good to name names. Wouldn’t hurt anyone. Would show you have connections beyond Paraag Marathe, another non-football operative. Would show you are serious.

Jed sure names names when it suits him. He named Guido. He named his uncle Eddie. He trots out Eddie’s name whenever he is in trouble. He cries uncle.

Please leave Eddie out of this, Jed. He’s a great guy. He’s retired. He didn’t create this mess. You did.

And you know what, Jed, I don’t believe you have names to name. You are clueless just like you were clueless last year and the year before. A lost boy. Mark my words. You are going to make a mess of this. It’s what you always do.


Source.

I feel embarrassed for the writer. Like, I bet his wife/kids are hiding in the basement to hide thier shame at his level of patheticness. Not that York is good, but this is just a series of masturbatory straw men strung together.
Freeeeeeedom
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 03 2017 23:25 GMT
#3019
On January 04 2017 08:18 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2017 07:39 xDaunt wrote:
This is one of the most brutal sports editorial pieces that I have ever seen:

SANTA CLARA - Jed York gave the stupidest answer at his Monday news conference. I’m saying it was the stupidest answer I’ve heard in 37 years in this business.

He was doing his usual blah-blah about how he wants to improve his miserable product – the team. So, I grabbed the media microphone and said, “You dismissed your general manager and coach because they didn’t reach certain performance standards.”

“That’s part of it,” he interrupted. I didn’t need his interruption.

“OK, let’s stick to that part,” I insisted. “Why shouldn’t you be dismissed or reassigned for the same reasons?”

Meaning he is easily as incompetent as just-fired Chip Kelly and Trent Baalke. Jed looked at me. Swallowed hard. You could see him thinking, “Are people allowed to ask questions like that? Of me?”

Hell, yes.

“Again,” he said, “nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory.”:

“Say something,” I said.

“We are going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case, but that’s the fact.”

That was the stupid answer I’ve been referring to. The stupidest.

I mean, did he have “You don’t dismiss owners” written on a cue card? Did he walk into the room ready to claim his owner’s privilege? Did his head of public relations tell him, “When Lowell asks a really tough one about your level of competence, just tell him you own the team and he and the fans can go screw themselves.” Or did Jed come up with that all on his own?

Here is an equivalent statement for “You don’t dismiss owners.”

“It’s my ball and we play by my rules.”

Nerds who said that in Brooklyn when I was a kid also stuck out their tongues at us. Jed just stuck out his tongue at the entire fan base. He said, in effect, “You can’t touch me and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

One question: Since when is Junior the owner? Excuse me, but I’ve always thought Mommy is the owner. I’ve always thought Mommy can rescind his owner privileges. If only she would.

Monday was not a great day for Jed. Had the dry mouth. Looked morally offended that we media lowlifes held him accountable. My heart broke for him.

A while later, Grant Cohn asked this one. “You said you own this football team. A lot of owners don’t make football decisions. What’s your response to those who say you should remove yourself from football decisions and hire a president to run the show?”

“We have a president,” Jed shot back. Snotty tone. “His name is Al Guido, and I don’t make football decisions.”

But Jed does make football decisions. He will make one soon when he hires a new coach and GM. So he wasn’t being honest. What a surprise from a moral paragon like him. As far as Al Guido goes, what does he know about football? I like Al. He is a nice man, full of pep. But he is not a football expert.

Later, Brian Murphy asked the same question. Who will guide Jed through the crucial hiring process, so he won’t louse up yet again? Murph didn’t exactly phrase it like that. He’s more polite than I am.

“Obviously, my uncle is somebody that I talk to on a very regular basis,” Jed intoned to start a marathon-long answer. “There are several other very well respected people, people that have been a part of this organization in the past, that have hired head coaches in that past, certainly coaches that I know that aren’t getting back into the game that have been Super Bowl winning coaches and Hall-of-Fame-caliber coaches and some of them are in the Hall of Fame. I’m not going to name people by names, but there are certainly enough people that I know and trust and respect that I think the world would trust and respect their opinion. I just want to give them the respect of their privacy and their anonymity.”

I cut him off. His answer was so saccharine sweet I thought I’d get diabetes. I didn’t even have the microphone but I blurted out, “It would give people more confidence in you if you name a few names. I think what Grant and Murph (are) getting at is that you have good intentions, but in the last three years, your intentions haven’t come to fruition and the feeling is among people who follow the team that maybe you’re not quite well enough connected and don’t have a Bill Walsh with you? Eddie DeBartolo Jr. had Bill. Eddie was not the expert. Bill was the expert.”

“And I’m not the expert either.”

“I understand,” I said.

“And this isn’t a debate,” he said. “If you want to sit down and have a conversation, we can.”

“Who are the people that you can go to to help you to make your vision come true?”

“Out of respect to them, I’m not going to throw people’s names out there to use those people’s names.”

Say what, Jed? Out of respect, you won’t name names. Are these people in the Witness Protection Program? Are they internet hackers or drug lords? It would be good to name names. Wouldn’t hurt anyone. Would show you have connections beyond Paraag Marathe, another non-football operative. Would show you are serious.

Jed sure names names when it suits him. He named Guido. He named his uncle Eddie. He trots out Eddie’s name whenever he is in trouble. He cries uncle.

Please leave Eddie out of this, Jed. He’s a great guy. He’s retired. He didn’t create this mess. You did.

And you know what, Jed, I don’t believe you have names to name. You are clueless just like you were clueless last year and the year before. A lost boy. Mark my words. You are going to make a mess of this. It’s what you always do.


Source.

I feel embarrassed for the writer. Like, I bet his wife/kids are hiding in the basement to hide thier shame at his level of patheticness. Not that York is good, but this is just a series of masturbatory straw men strung together.

That's the same writer that tried to blast Chip Kelly for not giving the answer he wanted with Kaep and the locker room. Guy's a loser trying to make a name for himself by picking low hanging fruit.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14108 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 00:40:48
January 04 2017 00:38 GMT
#3020
fuck i'm so mad at the ad and everyone in minnesota university for fireing tracy clay. Jerry kill got into the hearts of a lot of cold as fuck Minnesotans. Fucking PC bullshit AD valueing someone that they hired more then the program.

RIP gophers. here we go another couple decades of shit.
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