On March 12 2015 06:42 crimethinking wrote: If I drastically reduce the amount of calories I eat but still maintain my habits of drinking energy drinks/soda, can I lose weight that way?
Theoretically yes. However that means you will be consuming very little protein and high carbs so you will mostly loss muscle mass and feel like shit.
Drink coffee and diet soda, energy drinks are fucking poison if consumed regularly
I can't drink diet soda. The aspartame aftertaste is horrible. Even Coke Zero, which has the least amount of aftertaste, still tastes very badly to me.
On March 12 2015 06:42 crimethinking wrote: If I drastically reduce the amount of calories I eat but still maintain my habits of drinking energy drinks/soda, can I lose weight that way?
Theoretically yes. However that means you will be consuming very little protein and high carbs so you will mostly loss muscle mass and feel like shit.
Drink coffee and diet soda, energy drinks are fucking poison if consumed regularly
I can't drink diet soda. The aspartame aftertaste is horrible. Even Coke Zero, which has the least amount of aftertaste, still tastes very badly to me.
Then don't drink diet soda. We are not food nazi's here but drinking soda regularly is prolly as bad as smoking for you and there's just no way around it. Drink cold water for hidratation.
On March 12 2015 06:42 crimethinking wrote: If I drastically reduce the amount of calories I eat but still maintain my habits of drinking energy drinks/soda, can I lose weight that way?
Theoretically yes. However that means you will be consuming very little protein and high carbs so you will mostly loss muscle mass and feel like shit.
Drink coffee and diet soda, energy drinks are fucking poison if consumed regularly
I can't drink diet soda. The aspartame aftertaste is horrible. Even Coke Zero, which has the least amount of aftertaste, still tastes very badly to me.
Energy drinks and soda especially consumed regularly is horrible for you. If you cant drink diet switch to fruit juices, milk, flavored water, tea, etc. And coffee. Coffee is awesome.
On March 12 2015 06:42 crimethinking wrote: If I drastically reduce the amount of calories I eat but still maintain my habits of drinking energy drinks/soda, can I lose weight that way?
Theoretically yes. However that means you will be consuming very little protein and high carbs so you will mostly loss muscle mass and feel like shit.
Drink coffee and diet soda, energy drinks are fucking poison if consumed regularly
I can't drink diet soda. The aspartame aftertaste is horrible. Even Coke Zero, which has the least amount of aftertaste, still tastes very badly to me.
As someone who drinks energy drinks faaaaaar too often, ill chime in that I'm willing to stake money on soda and energy drinks, and their propensity for generating diabetes will be as heavily villainized as cigarettes and lung cancer in another 10-20 years. It really is up there on the list of "worst shit you can do for your body" and the idea that you would massively restrict food calories to enable them is even more horrible.
If you need the blood sugar fix have potatoes or rice or even a fruit juice. If its the caffeine drink coffee or even pick up caffeine pills. I think I may have finally kicked that habit recently. And its one of the most important health and fitness accomplishments I've gotten, even though I've been posting in these threads for five years now.
Looks like I'm going to need to get my own straps, the ones at the Y are there like 30% of the time I want them. Which is fine and probably normal but it gave me hope.
On March 12 2015 06:42 crimethinking wrote: If I drastically reduce the amount of calories I eat but still maintain my habits of drinking energy drinks/soda, can I lose weight that way?
Theoretically yes. However that means you will be consuming very little protein and high carbs so you will mostly loss muscle mass and feel like shit.
Drink coffee and diet soda, energy drinks are fucking poison if consumed regularly
I can't drink diet soda. The aspartame aftertaste is horrible. Even Coke Zero, which has the least amount of aftertaste, still tastes very badly to me.
What exactly is your habit of drinking energy drinks/soda? 1 can a day? 1 liter a day? How do you feel about unsweetened ice tea? How do you feel about drinking soda with a ton of ice?
I fukken love Coke Zero, but I noticed that consuming large amounts of it and no water over the course of a day caused headaches and a general feeling of shit. Surprise!
As much as I like actual crossfit, I've gotta say that Julie Foucher is the best thing about the sport. (actual workout starts at 25:50, post-workout interview at 49:50)
As a Midwesterner, I'll say that the lack of interesting geographical features makes it easy to spend a lot of time in the gym. Not that traipsing about the forest or boating aren't fun, but they ain't Mt. Rainier, lemme tell ya.
Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Ask for a spotter, but tell them to not ever touch the bar until it goes back down (or until you tell them). Then push yourself to failure, and only THEN do one or how many reps you want with assistance.
Doing a whole bunch of reps with a guy assisting you to a level you can't even tell is as little testing your limits as safely doing a handful of reps with long resting in between.
On March 18 2015 08:09 Volband wrote: Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Pain is not an indicator of progress. Burning your hand also hurts
On March 18 2015 08:09 Volband wrote: Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Pain is not an indicator of progress. Burning your hand also hurts
I burn my hand a little every day so I can build up fire immunity. One day I'll be able to walk on the sun.
On March 18 2015 08:09 Volband wrote: Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Both methods (your normal 5 rep heavy training, and this 12 rep burnout training) have their place in high level bodybuilding training, but for someone who is still a beginner, the 12 rep type of thing is just going to make it harder for you to recover before the next time you have to go in and bench, and is going to hurt your strength progress long term if you keep doing it.
Its certainly not useless, but it's uses are for things that you're either not ready for or not interested in just now.
On March 18 2015 08:09 Volband wrote: Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Pain is not an indicator of progress. Burning your hand also hurts
I burn my hand a little every day so I can build up fire immunity. One day I'll be able to walk on the sun.
Duh, you should be burning your feet if you want to walk on the sun. Guess you better get to work training those handstands.
Guys, I know the difference between the pain when I get injured and the pain when each rep gets harder and harder. The only bad pain I got out from that workout was at the top of my right hand, it got pretty red as well, probably gripped too hard.
On March 18 2015 08:09 Volband wrote: Guys, explain me this phenomenon with bench press please!
So, if I'd want to test my limits on bench pressing, the end never comes when my muscles are burning like hell and screaming at me to stop (like, with other exercises), I just... can't push it up, that's all, like there's a wall there. It doesn't hurt, well, nothing compared to other exercises when pushed to the limit. However, when I get a spotter, and he helps me, I can do so much more and faster. When I do it alone, I have to take long breaks (2,5-3 mins) to be back to my strength to do it again, but with a spotter it's much less.
I'm pretty sure that the guy who spotted for me today (didn't ask for it, but I think he saw me struggling) actually helped me, because he did not just put his fingers under the bar but it seemed like he was holding it with both hands, anyway, until he did not use his hands I was about to collapse at the 5th rep, but with his spotting I could do 12, and could probably continue, but it was way too painful by then. It felt great though, my muscles burned up, and I'm still sore. I loved the feeling that I only have to concentrate on pushing with all my power - even if it hurt badly during the last reps - instead of "god I hope I can do 2 more, before I hit this invisible wall".
Based on the pain, I'd say doing 12 that way worth much more than doing 5 alone, but I'm here to ask whether I'm right, and what should I know about this phenomenon, and should I keep asking for a spotter and go way beyond what I usually aim for when I'm alone, or keep doing reps with weights I can surely do alone, even if it means I'll have to bench possibly 5-10 kgs or 6-8 reps less than with a spotter?
Both methods (your normal 5 rep heavy training, and this 12 rep burnout training) have their place in high level bodybuilding training, but for someone who is still a beginner, the 12 rep type of thing is just going to make it harder for you to recover before the next time you have to go in and bench, and is going to hurt your strength progress long term if you keep doing it.
Its certainly not useless, but it's uses are for things that you're either not ready for or not interested in just now.
EPT
