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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 25 2014 05:49 GMT
#901
No need to get so defensive.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 25 2014 05:53 GMT
#902
i see what you did there
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 06:19:08
November 25 2014 06:09 GMT
#903
houston has had a better team defense, and it is harder to separate out the individual contribution of harden from that broad context than measure the team context itself. his on/off defensive impact hasn't been very significant from the numbers. i put more credence towards a large sample on/off drtg change on the team than individual drtg score.

as far as the tracking numbers go, he is showing much better results defending the 3 and long jumpers in general. but those are high variance shots and not sure if real trend.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
November 25 2014 06:52 GMT
#904
you really gotta watch the games to see the improvement... perusing the box scores and numbers every night won't show how much better he is in terms of effort and attention (granted he had a very very low bar to clear)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 25 2014 07:07 GMT
#905
careful with dws and individual drtg. I think Harden's actually been showing much effort on defense this year. Probably explains his poor efg% in him using up so much energy on that end. Iirc his block rate is much higher too.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
November 25 2014 07:08 GMT
#906
I'm going off seeing him guard monta and dirk late vs the mavs. Pretty sure it's substantial improvement and not just variance.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
November 25 2014 10:04 GMT
#907
On November 25 2014 08:47 Scarecrow wrote:
"Kevin Durant (foot) went through some contact in practice on Monday.
He has a big evaluation coming up on Thanksgiving, but his return is getting close. At the very earliest, he could play Friday"

I reckon they'll be okay.


Friday december 5th? Thatd be awesome :D
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 25 2014 14:41 GMT
#908
harden's shooting is dragged down by a handful of truly awful performances. might just be the number of games played. although he tends to have these clunker games against the few decent teams they've played.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 15:38:24
November 25 2014 14:55 GMT
#909
Harden started off shooting poorly the past two seasons, and got better as the year went on. Still even if he doesn't improve significantly, the defensive effort has been worth it. I always said he doesn't have to be first team defense, just getting to "average" would be a huge improvement from where he was. His defense so far has been great as a whole, but I have to say that video is funny (I think he was trying to take a charge on Larkin, but set up way too early and then gave up on the play). Also the video in the link above it looks like they add slow motion to the second right before Larkin passes by Harden which makes it look worse. The video kind of stutters right when Larkin makes the pass. Here is the play at full speed the whole time:



oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-25 16:27:12
November 25 2014 16:09 GMT
#910
someone painstakingly went through all of hakeem olajuwon's videotaped games during his peak and compiled some stats. pretty interesting. that offense could have been so much better too with more weapons to work with, some truly scrub 'supporting cast' for a championship team.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1330591


some thoughts:
hakeem sometimes gets dinged for low %/efficency, but this is failing to take into account how houston's offense was dependent on him most of the time. as a result he had to take a fair proportion of midrange shots particularly near the left baseline.

note the very high 75% finishing and the paint area efficiency. isolation in general is low efficiency, even in the era of illegal defense rule. it's still impressive though that he managed a 1.5 ppp on isolation drives, shaq/lebron territory. with hakeem's quickness, it is also not out of the question that he would improve these numbers in the modern game where help defenders have to come from outside of the paint rather than stack inside it.

so somewhat counter-intuitively, with a more 'limited' player, pure efficiency numbers could actually improve because he would not be asked to do some of the things hakeem did.

on defense, that on/off drtg is amazing mostly to show how horrible houston was constructed during those years. some all time carrying job right there.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#911
don't forget the 96 year with the shortened 3pt line. Houston was on fire so Keem wasn't necessarily "carrying" on offense. Still one of the most dangerous scoring machines the league has ever seen.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 25 2014 23:49 GMT
#912
hakeem's peak was relatively short after his championship years, and he wasn't the same defensive presence after 95, particularly when they got barkley.

those 90's classic offenses would be considered very stilted by modern standards. no spacing lol.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 25 2014 23:53 GMT
#913
i wish i had a chance to see jordan and hakeem play.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 26 2014 00:05 GMT
#914
I wish they showed games of Oscar Robertson. I don't know if those even exist.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 26 2014 00:34 GMT
#915
Ace just got temp banned.

time to post your arguments
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 26 2014 01:04 GMT
#916
On November 26 2014 09:34 icystorage wrote:
Ace just got temp banned.

time to post your arguments


He posts in other forums?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 26 2014 01:16 GMT
#917
a harsh as fuck ban at that lol. guess thats why its only 2 days tho.

chalmers doing work
I come in for the scraps
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 26 2014 02:04 GMT
#918
On November 26 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:
i wish i had a chance to see jordan and hakeem play.


there are videos of jordan playing everywhere, unless u meant like live in person or something
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 26 2014 02:18 GMT
#919
On November 26 2014 11:04 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:
i wish i had a chance to see jordan and hakeem play.


there are videos of jordan playing everywhere, unless u meant like live in person or something


of course there are videos lol. not even in person, but just growing up and seeing him on tv and following the league. i was too young back then and didn't even know that NBA existed

also..curry...just stahp
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 26 2014 03:34 GMT
#920
Ultimate Michael Jordan dvd is a good taste of highlights and full games.
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