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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 14 2014 02:07 GMT
#561
On November 14 2014 10:43 oneofthem wrote:
millions that fans who want to watch players like him play generate?

the bulls are not forcing him to play. they probably want to save him for the playoffs, while being responsible to rose as a person.. this is a basic level of decency that some fans don't get.


Fans expect the athletes making this money to be 'giving it all they've got' for lack of a better expression. The money generated is in large part because fans want to see athletes do unbelievable things, knowing that the athletes are risking things to make the feats happen.

It's a basic level of decency for a labor worker to be compensated for the risk he is undertaking, and the athletes are getting that. Not a whole lot of horror stories coming out about ex-NBA players, Rose needs to shut his fucking mouth.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 14 2014 02:23 GMT
#562
Are the sixers even going to score 50 points this game?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 14 2014 02:33 GMT
#563
Rose's comments are on the knife edge of being completely reasonable or prickish. Seeing that, it's best not to draw conclusions.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 14 2014 02:39 GMT
#564
On November 14 2014 09:27 slyboogie wrote:
Point 4 expressly reveals that you know what she's talking about.

You don't need to decertify to remove a salary caps, it is only a necessary maneuver to challenge a league protected-monopoly status, which the NBA does not officially have in legislation, only in Appelate Court precedence. Only the MLB has federal Anti-trust protection.

Why would you accuse her of sound bytes? Her sentiment is incredibly unpopular because the NBA has already managed to co-opt the term salary cap into the narrative of competitive balance. She's stating a fact. Any consideration of your points one through three is conceding that you are negotiating in a salary cap world. A preset percentage of revenue assigned as a labor cost is, by its very definition, a salary cap.

You can grow the pie, you can increase the percentage of your slice of pie but you'll never get the slice of pie you're worth in a pie-cap world.

Edit: the pie things not totally true, labor can have such a high percentage of revenue that the business becomes unprofitable or untenable.


This is entirely true. Like I said, however, she represents all of the players. In a non-pie world everyone knows Lebron makes more, but its not clear that Joe Harris and Lou Admunsen do not make less. Look, I like the idea of a totally free market NBA system. Owners don't like it because it means winning saps profits. The real question is why players consistently vote for a such a system. I believe the answer is because 50%+1 is actually better off.
Freeeeeeedom
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 14 2014 03:05 GMT
#565
The problem is, the players don't care about a competitive league; they care about making their money and winning.

The owners care about maximising their investment/profits and winning (mostly--there's always a Maloof or Sterling).

As always this is a fight over money but no one ever cares or mentions the most significant stakeholder: the fans. The NBA doesn't exist without chumps like us that stump up for merchanside, league pass tickets etc etc.

I'd be happy to see the cap raised exponentially, rookie wage scales and max player salaries removed. But above all the cap needs to remain at a reasonable level to give ALL the teams a level playing field from the get-go.

But we've had this argument a thousand times; I'm hardly saying anything new and I get a lot of people disagree with me.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 14 2014 03:10 GMT
#566
It' so hard to see Philly winning 10 games this year.

They'll be lucky to have two by Christmas.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
dDazed
Profile Joined August 2014
192 Posts
November 14 2014 03:14 GMT
#567
Holy mother of god is that an NBA team out there? At one point the score was 54-14 in the Mavs game.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 14 2014 03:34 GMT
#568
Lol... if the Kings lose this...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 14 2014 03:34 GMT
#569
wow not again Sac
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 14 2014 03:35 GMT
#570
I'm violating my rule about 'giving it time' but Rose is gonna be the next D Will. He just doesn't have it like he once did.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 14 2014 03:37 GMT
#571
Drose gonna break his own ankles
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 14 2014 03:38 GMT
#572
Wow, really good look for Z Bo there. Clanked it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 03:42:00
November 14 2014 03:41 GMT
#573
FUCKING LOL

edit: oh wait
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 14 2014 03:41 GMT
#574
omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 03:42:45
November 14 2014 03:42 GMT
#575
On November 14 2014 10:39 Doraemon wrote:
kings with another 20 point lead. lets see how quick they lose this one


When you're right, you're right.

On November 14 2014 12:35 RowdierBob wrote:
I'm violating my rule about 'giving it time' but Rose is gonna be the next D Will. He just doesn't have it like he once did.


It's the shoes!
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 14 2014 03:42 GMT
#576
im gonna need a replay
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 14 2014 03:43 GMT
#577
On November 14 2014 12:35 RowdierBob wrote:
I'm violating my rule about 'giving it time' but Rose is gonna be the next D Will. He just doesn't have it like he once did.


Or in Rose's case he might have it, but he's saving it, because he doesn't want to be sore in his future meetings.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
November 14 2014 03:44 GMT
#578
Rudy fucking Gay. LOL.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 14 2014 03:46 GMT
#579
On November 14 2014 12:14 dDazed wrote:
Holy mother of god is that an NBA team out there? At one point the score was 54-14 in the Mavs game.


Currently being outscored by 44 on only 2 more shots taken and 2 more FTs attempted by the Mavs.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 14 2014 03:47 GMT
#580
my god kings. classic
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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