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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 14:27:41
November 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#1641
from yesterdays half-time when some lights went off


Also Nani goal ^^ lolol

Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 26 2014 15:14 GMT
#1642
Nani looks like he is back. Honestly more players struggling to hit form should drop to a lower league where they can get their confidence back, a shame their bank account interests them more most of the time. (Looking at you Torres, come play for Feyenoord!)
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
November 26 2014 15:29 GMT
#1643
On November 26 2014 22:12 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 21:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On November 26 2014 06:58 Steveling wrote:
This is why neuer is not that good as people hype him out to be btw.
Buffon forever and ever.


Neuer didn't do anything wrong for those goals.

And who is supposed to be better? Neuer clearly demonstrates that he's the best keeper in the world, even if he isn't a god like some commentators make him out to be.


He is indeed the best from the current gen of keepers.
He's just not all time great material like prime buffon was.


Not yet.
He already proved that he has the potential. Especially during the WC. Let's see how his career continues.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 26 2014 15:31 GMT
#1644
On November 26 2014 16:50 Roybs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 07:27 Ferrose wrote:
On November 26 2014 06:04 RvB wrote:
On November 26 2014 05:49 Ysellian wrote:
On November 26 2014 05:41 RvB wrote:
On November 26 2014 05:36 Steveling wrote:
Why can't us or ajax get a break and get man.c in the group stage for once? lol

We got them once but we were in a group with Barça and another good team but I don't remember which one.


Nope you guys were with Madrid and Dortmund.

(Apart from City no push-overs, really tough group)

Ah right it was Madrid. Well no matter we've had either Barça or Real Madrid the last 4/5 CLs I think.


Ajax only have the themselves to blame imo. No disrespect to them, but they deserve their pot 3 status.

True, they've gotten really tough draws lately, but they finish third every season and get a chance to show their quality in the Europa League, but they crash out every year in the first or second knockout round. Clubs like Benfica and Porto have cemented themselves in pot 1 by performing consistently in the Europa League, even while having their best players poached every summer like Ajax does.


Rofl sorry for calling you out but comparing Ajax with Porto/Benfica is just bullshit. They are able to get outside EU talents without having to pay them over 500k salary.

Secondly I want to remind you an a few facts;

1. Zagreb vs Lyon that game was fucking fixed as hell.
2. 2 goals were not counted vs Real Madrid.
3. Penalty vs AC Milan which wasn't one.

So 3 times we got fucked over by the uefa, let alone the group stage draws.

But I agree with the part about getting knocked out by teams in europa league tho.


Law of averages. For every time a team suffers from poor officiating, they're going to benefit from poor officiating while the other team suffers. People just don't notice the bad calls in their team's favor due to confirmation bias.

There's no officiating conspiracy. Not against Ajax, not against Sporting, not against anybody.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 26 2014 15:34 GMT
#1645
There is ref bias in favor of Real Madrid tho (in Spain).
Revolutionist fan
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18481 Posts
November 26 2014 15:36 GMT
#1646
On November 27 2014 00:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
There is ref bias in favor of Real Madrid tho (in Spain).


pretty sure Real fans see ref bias in favour of Barca XD

Ferrose is right, it will even out
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 26 2014 15:52 GMT
#1647
On November 27 2014 00:36 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 00:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
There is ref bias in favor of Real Madrid tho (in Spain).


pretty sure Real fans see ref bias in favour of Barca XD

Ferrose is right, it will even out


I'm talking about the numbers in penalties (in favor and against), not any "feelings".

IIRC Madrid has had the most penalties called among all teams in every Liga for the past 5 Ligas straight. Not just compared to Barça, but also to every other of the ~20 teams.

So you could say "that's because Madrid is the strongest team and the other teams are forced to commit more penalties against them". So let's compare their numbers with Barça's, another equally strong(er) team:

Penalties between 2008-2013:

RM: 44 in favor, 10 against. +34
FCB: 25 in favor, 15 against. +10
Revolutionist fan
themartinez
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 15:55:00
November 26 2014 15:54 GMT
#1648
On November 27 2014 00:52 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 00:36 sharkie wrote:
On November 27 2014 00:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
There is ref bias in favor of Real Madrid tho (in Spain).


pretty sure Real fans see ref bias in favour of Barca XD

Ferrose is right, it will even out


I'm talking about the numbers in penalties (in favor and against), not any "feelings".

IIRC Madrid has had the most penalties called among all teams in every Liga for the past 5 Ligas straight. Not just compared to Barça, but also to every other of the ~20 teams.

So you could say "that's because Madrid is the strongest team and the other teams are forced to commit more penalties against them". So let's compare their numbers with Barça's, another equally strong(er) team:

Penalties between 2008-2013:

RM: 44 in favor, 10 against. +34
FCB: 25 in favor, 15 against. +10


but... but... marca says everyone is against RM, this cant be true!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 26 2014 17:01 GMT
#1649
On November 26 2014 22:31 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 22:12 Steveling wrote:
On November 26 2014 21:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On November 26 2014 06:58 Steveling wrote:
This is why neuer is not that good as people hype him out to be btw.
Buffon forever and ever.


Neuer didn't do anything wrong for those goals.

And who is supposed to be better? Neuer clearly demonstrates that he's the best keeper in the world, even if he isn't a god like some commentators make him out to be.


He is indeed the best from the current gen of keepers.
He's just not all time great material like prime buffon was.


No one has ever said Neuer is all time great...
What have you been smoking recently? o.O


Yeah hes not even close to the best ever German Keeper but for me hes definitely the best active keeper at the top level for sure.

Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 17:04:28
November 26 2014 17:02 GMT
#1650
Those numbers don't mean much though. Many more factors have to be taken into account. First of all, RM shows up in the box way more often than Barça do. Barça play more of a possessive style where they play around the box while RM runs more at the defense into the box. Obviously they're gonna get more penalties then. Same with Liverpool last year with Sterling/Suarez/Sturridge running at defenders. They also got a shitload of penalties.

Also, when it comes to penalties against: even though there's just a small discrepancy in the results, Barça leaves a lot of room behind the defense while RM is set up a bit more defensively. It's easier to defend when you play for Real Madrid so that means less mistakes. So that also means less penalties against.

Those numbers are just ways to stir up more shit.
Moderator
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 17:04:54
November 26 2014 17:03 GMT
#1651
On November 27 2014 00:36 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 00:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
There is ref bias in favor of Real Madrid tho (in Spain).


pretty sure Real fans see ref bias in favour of Barca XD

Ferrose is right, it will even out


I'll call this out the next time you flip flop (and you will) on this.

Thankssss...

On November 27 2014 02:02 Twisted wrote:
Those numbers don't mean much though. Many more factors have to be taken into account. First of all, RM shows up in the box way more often than Barça do. Barça play more of a possessive style where they play around the box while RM runs more at the defense into the box. Obviously they're gonna get more penalties then. Same with Liverpool last year with Sterling/Suarez/Sturridge running at defenders. They also got a shitload of penalties.

Those numbers are just ways to stir up more shit.



Exactllyyyyy... dont be such a prude.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 26 2014 17:18 GMT
#1652
The numbers are just that, you can either accept that or make up shit to try and imagine they don't mean what they do (the ref bias). I'm not using them of accusing Madrid of being the mafia. Everyone with enough brains and who watches how things work in this country knows that already, it has been true for the past 50 fucking years... and I don't even care anymore lol.

I mean it doesn't get any more obvious than this. If you really think there is no bias/mafia in spanish football you can buy some magical beans on your way home too.
Revolutionist fan
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 26 2014 17:19 GMT
#1653
I'm also gonna point at the elephant in the room and say that cristiano is a huge diver as well.
Neymar and suarez surprisingly dont dive this season, mby messi told them he's tired of their shit, lol.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
November 26 2014 17:43 GMT
#1654
guys we already have a Barça vs Real | Messi vs Ronaldo topic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 26 2014 17:51 GMT
#1655
Ludogerets vs Liverpool is 50% 50%.

They barely beat Ludogerets at Anfield so expect a tough game.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 26 2014 18:47 GMT
#1656
Seems like Benfica going to play another EL final D:
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
themartinez
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
November 26 2014 18:50 GMT
#1657
oh didnt know that julio cesar played for benfica
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
November 26 2014 19:05 GMT
#1658
On November 27 2014 03:47 Mensol wrote:
Seems like Benfica going to play another EL final D:


not if Monaco wins :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#1659
Do or die for Pool. From the BBC:



If Liverpool win: They will move on to six points and a win by any margin against Basel in their final group game would secure progression to the last 16, provided Basel fail to beat Real Madrid tonight. If Basel beat Real, Liverpool would have to beat the Swiss side by at least two clear goals, or single-goal win of 2-1 or more, to progress.

If Liverpool draw: They could exit the Champions League tonight with a draw and if Basel beat Real Madrid. The Reds will live to fight another day if they draw and Basel lose or draw.

If Liverpool lose: Defeat tonight means they would need to hope Real beat Basel to avoid elimination. Brendan Rodgers's side would then have to defeat the Swiss side and hope Ludogrets lose to Real, leaving three teams on six points, and then it comes down to points gained between the three sides. In this situation, all three teams would be level on six points in the head-to-head table, meaning it would go down to goal difference in the matches between the teams.


Arsenal are for the most part, safe.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 19:11:07
November 26 2014 19:10 GMT
#1660
Actually additional question - PL fans and especially Pool supporters - should Brendan Rodgers be sacked?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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