On March 08 2015 22:19 Pandemona wrote: LOL Messi missed another penalty that guy xD seems scoring from 12 yards is hard for him, yet taking on 3 players and rounding the keeper is "easy". The life of a world class footballer hahaha
Scoring against actual serious teams is also difficult for him. At least in European competition.
You are so bad at trolling. Mensol is better than you and sharkie is on a whole different level. xP
Real life isn't trolling mate. The only strong team Messi has scored against (while they were actually a strong team) was Man Utd back in like 2009.
How many goals has he scored against Chelsea? Even Torres has a better score against Barcelona. It's easy to become the top anything in history when you are playing against second/third tier squads. Micheal Jordan would have absolutely dominated against wheelchair basketball teams, but the difference is he could still really dominate the actual best basketball players in the world and set records there. Also comparing Messi's career to Ronaldo's is silly because Ronaldo actually played in a non-Mickey Mouse league.
In closing it doesn't really matter who is better because its a team game, and Chelsea is (at the moment) the best team in the world.
I agree. Messi only has scored more than 20 goals to scrubs. Rayo Vallecano, Levante, Real Madrid, etc.
I only know of Real Madrid. The rest ive heard in relation to Spain's relgation zone... Not sure which argument you're trying to supplant?
It was a good chance for free insulting R.Madrid
btw, Ancelotti did great with champions league, but I don't like Ancelotti for leagues, he looses too much points in regular competitions (last year they threw the league to Atletico, to be honest).
On March 08 2015 22:19 Pandemona wrote: LOL Messi missed another penalty that guy xD seems scoring from 12 yards is hard for him, yet taking on 3 players and rounding the keeper is "easy". The life of a world class footballer hahaha
Scoring against actual serious teams is also difficult for him. At least in European competition.
You are so bad at trolling. Mensol is better than you and sharkie is on a whole different level. xP
Real life isn't trolling mate. The only strong team Messi has scored against (while they were actually a strong team) was Man Utd back in like 2009.
How many goals has he scored against Chelsea? Even Torres has a better score against Barcelona. It's easy to become the top anything in history when you are playing against second/third tier squads. Micheal Jordan would have absolutely dominated against wheelchair basketball teams, but the difference is he could still really dominate the actual best basketball players in the world and set records there. Also comparing Messi's career to Ronaldo's is silly because Ronaldo actually played in a non-Mickey Mouse league.
In closing it doesn't really matter who is better because its a team game, and Chelsea is (at the moment) the best team in the world.
Wow calling professional footballers wheel chair basketball teams. I dont know if thats insuting to La Liga or wheelchair basketball teams orrrrr Torress orrrrrr Michael Jordan orrrr Ronaldo.
Mensol and Zeo getting really angsty these days. I didnt think it was possibe for Steveling to get to people with just Messi whoring. Bravo dude.
On March 08 2015 22:19 Pandemona wrote: LOL Messi missed another penalty that guy xD seems scoring from 12 yards is hard for him, yet taking on 3 players and rounding the keeper is "easy". The life of a world class footballer hahaha
Scoring against actual serious teams is also difficult for him. At least in European competition.
You are so bad at trolling. Mensol is better than you and sharkie is on a whole different level. xP
Real life isn't trolling mate. The only strong team Messi has scored against (while they were actually a strong team) was Man Utd back in like 2009.
How many goals has he scored against Chelsea? Even Torres has a better score against Barcelona. It's easy to become the top anything in history when you are playing against second/third tier squads. Micheal Jordan would have absolutely dominated against wheelchair basketball teams, but the difference is he could still really dominate the actual best basketball players in the world and set records there. Also comparing Messi's career to Ronaldo's is silly because Ronaldo actually played in a non-Mickey Mouse league.
In closing it doesn't really matter who is better because its a team game, and Chelsea is (at the moment) the best team in the world.
I agree. Messi only has scored more than 20 goals to scrubs. Rayo Vallecano, Levante, Real Madrid, etc.
I only know of Real Madrid. The rest ive heard in relation to Spain's relgation zone... Not sure which argument you're trying to supplant?
It was a good chance for free insulting R.Madrid
btw, Ancelotti did great with champions league, but I don't like Ancelotti for leagues, he looses too much points in regular competitions (last year they threw the league to Atletico, to be honest).
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Great game last night of Orlando vs New York City. I am now a fan of New York City! Shelton is a great prospect by the looks of it, 18 year old very pacey and quick footed young American! Will look out for him, David Villa works pretty hard up top and with Lampard to come in that team looks very good. Orlando were good also though and Kaka stoppage time equalizer made it finish 1-1! Good game :D
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
Good win for Spurs keeps up the pressure on United. Arsenal and Liverpool. Not sure if Southampton are still in that race. The points say they are. Harry Kane saving my Fantasy Football team once more.
The Championship is really heating up. Any 2 from 5 teams could get promotoed. Ipswich and Brentford chasing that pack.
I didn't see all of the Orlando vs NYC game but what I did see looked good. Drama at the death and a great crowd in for their first game. (that's not their regular stadium is it? I think I heard they hadn't finished it yet.)
Korean Season off to an interesting start with Suwon and Seoul both losing their opening games. The second divison hasn't started yet so we don't get to see the new Jamsil team just yet.
Most importantly of all though Exeter City made the 700 mile round trip to Carlisle and had something to sing about on the 6 hour return coach journey. 1:3 to the X e ter!
700 miles doesn't sound like a long trip to US teams but I bet they don't have to get a coach from New York to Orlando.
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
he already did way better than Mourinho at Real (well not that hard in terms of trophies Mourinho failed at Madrid).
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
he already did way better than Mourinho at Real (well not that hard in terms of trophies Mourinho failed at Madrid).
Hmm? Winning La Liga and Copa Del Rey vs 1 champions league 1 x Copa Del Rey? Comes down to how much you rate La Decima over beating Peps Barcelona which is 10x better than what is around now. And this season they are not looking good to win the league, out of the cup and still in champions league.
I think that Ancelotti's problem is that he can't motivate his players to play at their max(or at least decent) against every single opponent, even if its the weakest one. "Weaker" teams are easily uderestimated and this is what costs him titles. This season he lost points against teams like San Sebastian, Bilbao, Villareal... On paper these teams should not be a problem, but when they are highly motivated to do their best against Real, they can be really dangerous. Not to mention the games against Atletico, where "the favorites" played like they don't care. Also do you remembed Real's game against Ludogorets in Sofia ? The only reason why Real won was the questionable penalty against Ronaldo. Against a team that is worth 1/10th of Bale. So yeah... Not everyone is Capello
1. Injured players. Real was pretty unlucky with James and especially Modric, so esentially Kroos have to play with a useless player (Khedira, Illaramendi) or a newbie (Silva) in a position he isn't familiar with and probably doesn't enjoy, so what's left is a broken midfield that can't support Ronaldo and co.. Not helping the fact that Jesse's injury was extremely hurtful to his career and he didn't return to half of what he was before.
2. Directions from above or/and an attempt to please everyone by playing with a mostly useless Bale this season. Real played their best football when Bale was injured and the midfield consisted of Modric, Kroos, Isco and James.
3. His character as a coach. He is very conservative. He adapts, but he does so slowly. All of 2015 Bale opened despite stinking the field he played on, Ancelloti didn't give the chance to Jesse to complete even a single game, he stuck with Kroos as a defensive midfielder although Kroos proved that he can play more forward in Munich and in Germany's national team.
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
he already did way better than Mourinho at Real (well not that hard in terms of trophies Mourinho failed at Madrid).
Hmm? Winning La Liga and Copa Del Rey vs 1 champions league 1 x Copa Del Rey? Comes down to how much you rate La Decima over beating Peps Barcelona which is 10x better than what is around now. And this season they are not looking good to win the league, out of the cup and still in champions league.
Winning Champions League is always better. Unless you are Steven Gerrard. Best team in Europe vs Best team in Spain? Its not even a contest on whats worth more whether its 10th 4th 2nd 25th 1041th. Dont believe me? Ask Roman.
You dont have to argue for arguements sake. They are one point behind and have had a mid season dip. They have an easier schedule also.
Its amazing how someones decision making is worthless because his front 3 started playing like tripe although to be fair he would be better of slotting Modric in their for Bale I agree.
On March 09 2015 17:46 Pandemona wrote: Great game last night of Orlando vs New York City. I am now a fan of New York City! Shelton is a great prospect by the looks of it, 18 year old very pacey and quick footed young American! Will look out for him, David Villa works pretty hard up top and with Lampard to come in that team looks very good. Orlando were good also though and Kaka stoppage time equalizer made it finish 1-1! Good game :D
And my team, Toronto, won 3-1, with a brace by Jozy Alitdore. He scored this goal with a lovely assist by Sebastian Giovinco:
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
he already did way better than Mourinho at Real (well not that hard in terms of trophies Mourinho failed at Madrid).
Hmm? Winning La Liga and Copa Del Rey vs 1 champions league 1 x Copa Del Rey? Comes down to how much you rate La Decima over beating Peps Barcelona which is 10x better than what is around now. And this season they are not looking good to win the league, out of the cup and still in champions league.
Mou was a big failure at rm. He won only the league and only once in 3 years, with that roster and the amount of money he spent, the result is not debatable. He was bad. And I'm not even touching the subject that rm fans despise him for inflicting his horrible disgusting style on a team that traditionally played attacking football.
And while were at it. Who "supplants" an argument ?
Ancelotti is fine, hes lost 4 games, Not the end of the world, plenty of football to play atleast this one has a title race.
Ancelotti is terrible! He needs to get fired ASAP Jokes aside, for some reason I just cannot imagine Madrid lifting the trophy at the end of the season. Ancelotti wins you Champions leagues but his league record is actually not that good considering the teams he has managed. Honestly don't know what it comes down to because his teams always play nice football and look very strong, but can't seem to get that extra mileage needed for the league (or perhaps the issue is that Ancelotti does so well in the CL that the league becomes an afterthought).
To be honest that kinda depends where you are coming from. I think his league record is excellent. Just not as good as maybe some other top level managers, but hes won the league everywhere he has managed. I reckon thats pretty impressive. Not many who have done that.
Remember the two years he came second to Juve were wiped out because of the match fixing thing, and then the scandals sent italian football (Juve and Milan in particular) to shit. Little he could do about stuff thats not football related.
Chelsea what 2 seasons ? 1 league title (scored over a 100 goals to, they played this power style that I havent seen since. You know pound for pound bigger,faster stronger with skill to boot. Essien Drogba et al)
PSG 1 season 1 league title (not much for advertisement)
Was barely off the pace last year and this season is totally open
And this is just league related. His European record is indeed more impressive.
If you dive deeper into his domestic season in England you see it wasn't "that" good though. Just look into the Chelsea time when he won the league and fa cup. FA Cup was a decent good solid run, but they played no big team. Inter humbled us in the champions league, yet we managed to beat Yanited twice to secure the title. The following season was on par with how bad AVBs was. At PSG also he won the league with the best team in it by a long shot and still some how lost 5 times and if you look they drew their first 3 games in a row.
I am not convinced of his work other than what he achieved at Milan.
he already did way better than Mourinho at Real (well not that hard in terms of trophies Mourinho failed at Madrid).
Hmm? Winning La Liga and Copa Del Rey vs 1 champions league 1 x Copa Del Rey? Comes down to how much you rate La Decima over beating Peps Barcelona which is 10x better than what is around now. And this season they are not looking good to win the league, out of the cup and still in champions league.
you don't quite understand how RM works if you think 1 liga can compare to La Decima. It was Mou's objective, he utterly failed and managed to win the bare minimum while being humiliated in the clasico several times.
Mou at RM won 1 liga 1 copa in three years, while Ancelotti got la Décima in his first year... which alone is already bigger than all of Moudrid's trophies together.
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