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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 02 2014 09:02 GMT
#7901
Saw a good picture of 2014 stats last night on sky sports of Messi vs Ronaldo. Can't find it now
Saw one for this season but that is kind of pointless to show xD

Oh well im sure Fifa have rigged it to give it to who they want to
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
December 02 2014 10:49 GMT
#7902
Neuer should bring his whole family to the awards, he wont win but a little trolling would be fun :D
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
December 02 2014 11:55 GMT
#7903
He performed so well in Europe, but looked like absolute shit in the WC when he needed to really carry his team because of the lack of quality around him.

Ronaldo was injured in the WC.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 12:08:04
December 02 2014 11:57 GMT
#7904
Great posts by Willy and Stratos, thanks!

Oh, and to Steveling: I don't want to take anything away from Buffon. But Neuer also shows these kind of saves, he just doesn't get that many opportunites because he plays in such a great team. But every time he is needed, he delivers. Recent examples:


These are just 2 examples from the last games while you showed a Buffon all-time video, so please don't compare. I just wanted to emphasize that Neuer is indeed a great goalkeeper and very consistent.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 02 2014 12:11 GMT
#7905
On December 02 2014 17:13 ViperPL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 13:18 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Not only that, but I give winning the WC a lot more weight than the CL. The CL comes around every year and you can just throw money at the problem and gobble up as much great talent as you can find. You can't do that with a WC that comes around once every 4 years.


That's a questionable statement. At least in CL anyone can throw money for a chance to win it, and towards the end the competition is really tight. In WC if your team isn't called Germany, Brazil or Italy you can't win.




I disagree with both statements. Throwing money at the problem doesnt win you CL's. It just so happens that people with money are right up there. At that level throwing money around is not much of a differentiatior.

As for the worldcup. Thats pretty straightforward. It is difficult by virtue of scarcity. Nothing more.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 02 2014 12:21 GMT
#7906
Holy guacamole the new barça shirts are the actual worst. Horizontal stripes, so rugby looking.
Revolutionist fan
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 12:58:49
December 02 2014 12:58 GMT
#7907
On December 02 2014 21:21 Salteador Neo wrote:
Holy guacamole the new barça shirts are the actual worst. Horizontal stripes, so rugby looking.


whats the problem with horizontal stripes ? .. i think they pretty :p but my opinion might be a bit suspect
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 02 2014 13:03 GMT
#7908
If money brought CL success, then Man City should be dominating right now.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 02 2014 15:14 GMT
#7909
On December 02 2014 22:03 Ferrose wrote:
If money brought CL success, then Man City should be dominating right now.


Tell that to chelsea.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
themartinez
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
December 02 2014 15:35 GMT
#7910
real madrid...
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 02 2014 15:45 GMT
#7911
Real madrid is real madrid.
Chelsea was an average english club before abramovich.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 02 2014 16:00 GMT
#7912
Money doesn't buy you success at all in the Champions league. Chelsea won it with our worst squad we had in that competition. Our best squads in their prime got beaten by very unlucky circumstances. Barcelona, slip due to shite pitch in Russia and of course the "ghost goal". Those 3 times could have all ended in Chelsea winning or getting to the final.
Instead we beat the stacked Bayern team on penalties with our worst team in their own backyard.

Money doesn't work in Champions League due to the teams in it are all in their due to being a decent side, organized and have at a first 11 of world class nature.

Also we were above average English team
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18595 Posts
December 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#7913
On December 03 2014 01:00 Pandemona wrote:
Money doesn't buy you success at all in the Champions league. Chelsea won it with our worst squad we had in that competition. Our best squads in their prime got beaten by very unlucky circumstances. Barcelona, slip due to shite pitch in Russia and of course the "ghost goal". Those 3 times could have all ended in Chelsea winning or getting to the final.
Instead we beat the stacked Bayern team on penalties with our worst team in their own backyard.

Money doesn't work in Champions League due to the teams in it are all in their due to being a decent side, organized and have at a first 11 of world class nature.

Also we were above average English team


Do you think you would have won a CL without Russian money?
If your answer is "no" then, yes money does buy you success in CL
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 02 2014 16:19 GMT
#7914
On December 03 2014 00:45 Steveling wrote:
Real madrid is real madrid.
Chelsea was an average english club before abramovich.


In their first 50 years Madrid won only 2 ligas and no CL.
Revolutionist fan
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 02 2014 16:24 GMT
#7915
I just hope Roma or BvB win this CL against all odds, somehow...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 16:25:16
December 02 2014 16:24 GMT
#7916
On December 03 2014 01:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 00:45 Steveling wrote:
Real madrid is real madrid.
Chelsea was an average english club before abramovich.


In their first 50 years Madrid won only 2 ligas and no CL.

There was no CL, La Liga was only founded in 1929 and then the civil war happened. Real Madrid won 2 but was runner up 6 times before 1950.

About money buying CLs, lets settle it at "money buys a chance at winning the CL".
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 02 2014 16:29 GMT
#7917
On December 03 2014 01:24 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 01:19 Salteador Neo wrote:
On December 03 2014 00:45 Steveling wrote:
Real madrid is real madrid.
Chelsea was an average english club before abramovich.


In their first 50 years Madrid won only 2 ligas and no CL.

There was no CL, La Liga was only founded in 1929 and then the civil war happened. Real Madrid won 2 but was runner up 6 times before 1950.

About money buying CLs, lets settle it at "money buys a chance at winning the CL".


Oh thanks, didn't know CL and Liga existed only so late.

So Madrid was (officially) only above average for 20 years instead of 50 as I thought. No idea how to know for the first 30 years, but they actually did win a lot of Spain Copas.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 02 2014 16:42 GMT
#7918
Chelsea won the league in 1955 and had the opportunity to be in the first ever Champions league but choose not to for whatever reason (i can't remember why) that year Real Madrid won it for the first time. Wonder if Chelsea would of beat them back then :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 02 2014 17:15 GMT
#7919
On December 03 2014 01:42 Pandemona wrote:
Chelsea won the league in 1955 and had the opportunity to be in the first ever Champions league but choose not to for whatever reason (i can't remember why) that year Real Madrid won it for the first time. Wonder if Chelsea would of beat them back then :3


Some research reveals that it was the FA who bullied them into not competing:

As Chelsea continue their Champions League adventure against Bayern Munich at Stamford Bridge tonight, it is worth reflecting that the Sillett brothers might well have reached at least the quarter-final stage in the 1955-56 season but for the intervention of Alan Hardaker, the totalitarian secretary of the Football League. Hardaker, who viewed the notion of European competition with the disdain Margaret Thatcher displayed for the European Parliament, bullied Chelsea chairman and Football League president Joe Mears into withdrawing from the original European Cup competition won by Real Madrid.

Thus was the world of football denied what would have been an intriguing head-to-head contest between Gento (Real Madrid and Spain) and John Sillett (Chelsea and Wiltshire Schools). "Amazing, isn't it? Imagine being prevented from playing in the European Cup. I finally got to play in Europe in the old Inter-Cities Fairs' Cup in 1958. We played in Bilbao where it was so muddy you couldn't kick a ball more than 10 yards and Ted Drake, who was a wonderful motivator but not a great tactician, decreed 'no pass-backs'.


Source

I can't believe I'm defending Chelsea here, but the criticism is unwarranted. They won the League Cup once, the FA Cup twice, the Cup Winners' Cup once, and the UEFA Super Cup in the late 90s. And they got to the quarterfinals of the CL the one time they competed in it. And they had some amazing players like Gianfranco Zola.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 02 2014 19:06 GMT
#7920
On December 03 2014 02:15 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 01:42 Pandemona wrote:
Chelsea won the league in 1955 and had the opportunity to be in the first ever Champions league but choose not to for whatever reason (i can't remember why) that year Real Madrid won it for the first time. Wonder if Chelsea would of beat them back then :3


Some research reveals that it was the FA who bullied them into not competing:

Show nested quote +
As Chelsea continue their Champions League adventure against Bayern Munich at Stamford Bridge tonight, it is worth reflecting that the Sillett brothers might well have reached at least the quarter-final stage in the 1955-56 season but for the intervention of Alan Hardaker, the totalitarian secretary of the Football League. Hardaker, who viewed the notion of European competition with the disdain Margaret Thatcher displayed for the European Parliament, bullied Chelsea chairman and Football League president Joe Mears into withdrawing from the original European Cup competition won by Real Madrid.

Thus was the world of football denied what would have been an intriguing head-to-head contest between Gento (Real Madrid and Spain) and John Sillett (Chelsea and Wiltshire Schools). "Amazing, isn't it? Imagine being prevented from playing in the European Cup. I finally got to play in Europe in the old Inter-Cities Fairs' Cup in 1958. We played in Bilbao where it was so muddy you couldn't kick a ball more than 10 yards and Ted Drake, who was a wonderful motivator but not a great tactician, decreed 'no pass-backs'.


Source

I can't believe I'm defending Chelsea here, but the criticism is unwarranted. They won the League Cup once, the FA Cup twice, the Cup Winners' Cup once, and the UEFA Super Cup in the late 90s. And they got to the quarterfinals of the CL the one time they competed in it. And they had some amazing players like Gianfranco Zola.


I'm sry, how can you say that chelsea was a big club and then list these "achievements" to back up that claim.
It actually proves the opposite.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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