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On July 23 2015 23:31 QuanticHawk wrote:
uh, so Lou Lam apparently isn't retiring and is now the GM of the Leafs.
Quite honestly I thought he's been pretty bad for at least 3-4 years. Part of that was due to circumstance I think but yeah. I don't get that decision because his last few years were basically all bad contracts and shitty drafting of forwards. He's 72 and the Leafs are at least 2-3 years from being remotely competitive.
Having been completely unable to attract any big name players, the Leafs have gone all-in on signing every available big name coach/executive. Loooool. This is just pension money for Lou.
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So Montreal signed Semin for 1x1.1 million. I like it. Very low risk, potential high reward. I don't expect too much from him, but even 10-15 goals would be great at that price.
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I think this is a really good signing for Montreal. The last time Semin was given a one year contract, he put up a point per game. Very little downside and huge upside.
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thats a low risk deal on a skilled player so it's smart. but he landed on like the single worst team/coach for him to be on haha. semin will be getting scratched by the end of november under therrien.
stepan apparently made it to arbitration this morning. hes looking at 7.25 for a one year, and the team is looking at 5.2.
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On July 27 2015 22:53 QuanticHawk wrote:
thats a low risk deal on a skilled player so it's smart. but he landed on like the single worst team/coach for him to be on haha. semin will be getting scratched by the end of november under therrien.
stepan apparently made it to arbitration this morning. hes looking at 7.25 for a one year, and the team is looking at 5.2.
Yea Therrien won't put up with his bullshit for very long. Unless by some miracle he means what he says about wanting to get serious this year and have a fresh start to his career. Which I doubt, but meh at 1.1 mill easily worth the risk.
Also heard rumours about Montreal making a big trade to Washington invovling Eller and Desharnais. Just wild rumours at this point but personally I'd be happy to see David Desharnais go. I kind of like Eller but meh, open up slots for the young guys to move up in the roster.
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I am not really that crazy about his contract but Eller is the kind of guy you want centering your third line. He's not the issue with the MTL bottom six. It's that most of the other players there are talentless fools. Desharnais is someone who is pretty useless if he's not being used correctly in the top 6 though. I can see moving him but really it depends on what comes back. Montreal doesn't hve great center depth unless they're permanently shifting over Gally (and even still). It doesn't make sense to trade Deharnais unless they're getting back another center who hs offensive talent.
semin's actually a good two way player. he's good in his own end but it's realy mostly a function of possession. he has it a lot, and he doesnt give it up easily and makes good passes usually. but that man takes more dumb offensive zone stick penalties than anyone I can think of.
semin is just going to end up in the dog house really fast because that's what therrien does to top 6 skill finese players. and then hell sit and wonder why hes having a hard time of things playing with weise and eller getting shit zone starts and lower minutes.
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On July 27 2015 23:15 QuanticHawk wrote:
I am not really that crazy about his contract but Eller is the kind of guy you want centering your third line. He's not the issue with the MTL bottom six. It's that most of the other players there are talentless fools. Desharnais is someone who is pretty useless if he's not being used correctly in the top 6 though. I can see moving him but really it depends on what comes back. Montreal doesn't hve great center depth unless they're permanently shifting over Gally (and even still). It doesn't make sense to trade Deharnais unless they're getting back another center who hs offensive talent.
I agree about Eller, as a defensive 3rd line center he is perfect. DD I think is highly over rated to be quite honest. I'd much rather see Galchenyuk slide in that spot. Plekancs, Chucky, Eller then who ever can drop into the 4th line center isn't bad. I'd love to get a good top center of course, but if we can trade away DD and get something decent back I'd be more then happy to see someone like Scherbak, Thomas, Bournival etc. step up and fill a spot on the roster.
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eller is definitely more of a defensive player than anything. But if they took the time to create a non plugger bottom six I think they could definitely put him in more favorable scenarios (and more importantly the team would be better for it overall). Like I don't ever think he'll be a 40-50 point player, but I can see him getting to 35 if MTL built their third like other teams. Or at the very least, the third becomes mroe a positive possession line. As it stands, they basically send him out there for important shifts they dont wanna lose in their own end and roll the 4th when everyone is dead ass tired.
DD I think is not going to get a lot back. He's going to be 30 and he's always struck me a decent enough player, but someone that needs talent around him and easier minutes (he's always atop Montrea's board for soft zone starts) to be a 45+ point player. He actually reminds me a who lot of PA Parenteau except he's a center. They're both ok top 6 options, but they're supporting players.
As flawed as I think MTL is with their offesnive depth and talent, I think they have more than enough pieces in place in front of Price that DD represents more value on the club than off. There is no assurance that Gallagher is actually an NHL level top 6 center. And there's no assurance that whoever replaces his top line minutes at RW can do so effectively, whether they give that to a young guy, etc.
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On July 27 2015 23:46 QuanticHawk wrote:
eller is definitely more of a defensive player than anything. But if they took the time to create a non plugger bottom six I think they could definitely put him in more favorable scenarios (and more importantly the team would be better for it overall). Like I don't ever think he'll be a 40-50 point player, but I can see him getting to 35 if MTL built their third like other teams. Or at the very least, the third becomes mroe a positive possession line. As it stands, they basically send him out there for important shifts they dont wanna lose in their own end and roll the 4th when everyone is dead ass tired.
DD I think is not going to get a lot back. He's going to be 30 and he's always struck me a decent enough player, but someone that needs talent around him and easier minutes (he's always atop Montrea's board for soft zone starts) to be a 45+ point player. He actually reminds me a who lot of PA Parenteau except he's a center. They're both ok top 6 options, but they're supporting players.
As flawed as I think MTL is with their offesnive depth and talent, I think they have more than enough pieces in place in front of Price that DD represents more value on the club than off. There is no assurance that Gallagher is actually an NHL level top 6 center. And there's no assurance that whoever replaces his top line minutes at RW can do so effectively, whether they give that to a young guy, etc.
Very true, Eller has the offensive capabilites to get 35+ points a season if surrounded by the right players. There is no assurance that the replacement will be as effective as DD but I'm ok with taking the risk to be honest. From what I saw of DD last year I'd Much rather take the risk with young kids filling in for him. Of course I'd love to see a trade for a real top center to fill the void. We have enough defensive depth to package a guy like Emelin or someone to try and grab a half decent 2nd line center but Meh will have to see what Bergevin has planned.
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Steppan signed for 6.5Mio
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yup 6.5 x 6. Nothing about any NMC/NTC. Considering that Oreilly isnt as good, has less success and got a longer and more expensive deal with all the trimmings, this is a great deal. Even if Stepn never gets better at all they're paying fair market price now, and that value only gets better. And he's only 25 so it's more likely that he continues to improve
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It seems Wilson is also signed for 4y average 3.93mio (3.75 first year, 4 in the rest).
Not many arbitrations to be held still...only 4 players left.
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that's a good deal for wilson
the sutter trade is not good.
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Couturier, 6x$4.33. A fantastic deal!
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Yeah that's pretty solid. He's already at a 2c or so now. He puts up good offensive numbers considering he started in his own end 60% of the time which is way more than his teammates. I think he's got the talent to put up better offensive numbers if they don't bury him so much. But he's really also their best defensive center by a mile so I guess that's why it falls to him
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Flyers extend Voracek to 8y 66mio (8x$8.25).
I'm not sure the 8.25 is the annual value or the average value tho.
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Not sure how I feel about the Voracek deal, if he keeps playing like last season and even improves then it is a Great deal. But can he be consistent with that level of production. I think he can be but still I'm always wary of long term high price deals like that. Unless it's a guy like Toews,Crosby, Ovechkin, Tavares, Weber, Doughty etc.
Montreal finally gets a deal done with Galchenyuk as well. 2 years at 2.8 million. Very happy with this deal. Young kid, had 20 goals last year and something like 46 points, was a plus. Now he has 2 year to prove step his game up to the next level and earn the big payday next contract.
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Ecstatic that the Flyers have Giroux Voracek and Couturier locked up long term. Voracek has been awesome.
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