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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 10:29:36
June 09 2014 10:19 GMT
#201
Kawhi fouling out sucks, several shitty calls on him in the first half. Makes it even harder to guard lebron when he's in foul trouble.

Hope Chalmers gets suspended, that elbow was bullshit.

On June 09 2014 11:49 usedtocare wrote:
Game felt underwhelming. James scored at will, didn't even need beastmode.

You must've missed the third quarter.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 09 2014 10:52 GMT
#202
And the part where he barely scored in the first quarter.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 09 2014 18:21 GMT
#203
http://www.theonion.com/articles/bill-simmons-ventures-into-interdimensional-vortex,36205/
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 09 2014 19:54 GMT
#204
All of LeBron's points in the 1st half were in the paint and all of LeBron's points in the 2nd half were outside of the paint
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 09 2014 20:00 GMT
#205
On June 09 2014 19:17 DystopiaX wrote:
It's kind of ridiculous how hard Lebron is carrying the Heat so far in this series. The games haven't even been close whenever he's on the bench.


Just piggybacking off this:

Miami with Lebron on the court: 111.8 ORTG, 103.5 DRTG, +8.3 Net
Miami with Lebron off the court: 95.7 ORTG, 147.8 DRTG, -52.2 Net
Remember Violet.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 09 2014 20:22 GMT
#206
That's why you have to take On/Off numbers with a grain of salt in low minutes. It's literally impossible for Miami's offense to sink to that level since they actually killed San Antonio with Lebron on the bench until the 4th quarter of Game 1. San Antonio's 80% shooting in 7 minutes jacked their ORTG way up, ala Mike Miller having a 200+ ORTG in one Game of the 2013 Finals.

That being said this is why you gotta be careful with these things. This is Miami's Lebron PO run ON/OFF numbers so far:
(From RealGM)


Miami PS (17 G):

Lebron ON: 115.8 ORTG, 105.8 DRTG, +10.0 Net

Lebron OFF: 111.4 ORTG, 119.5 DRTG, -8.1 Net

+18.0 Net ON/OFF



Without Lebron Miami's offense is still near the top of the league this playoffs, but the defense is horrible. This mirrors Game 1 with Miami playing well until the end where the defense is what really got destroyed by Lebron being off. Their offense without him has been pretty good, just not holy shit historically spectacular.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 09 2014 22:26 GMT
#207
why the fuck is derek fisher coaching the knicks?????????????????? like WTF
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 22:28:09
June 09 2014 22:27 GMT
#208
it's the knicks why does anything they do surprise you

waiting for d fish to amass a losing record then quit because "of his family", goes on to coach some winning team a week later.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
June 09 2014 23:32 GMT
#209
Of course Fisher agrees to $25 million-guaranteed. LOL.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 09 2014 23:42 GMT
#210
fisher on the knicks is just hilarious, like we needed any more reasons to dislike them
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 09 2014 23:46 GMT
#211
You can't even make this stuff up with the Knicks. Incredible.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 10 2014 00:24 GMT
#212
but guys he's a PHIL JACKSON guy
Remember Violet.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 10 2014 00:58 GMT
#213
the only thing im seeing is fisher has ZERO coaching experience and went straight from playing to one of the biggest coaching jobs.
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 01:35:36
June 10 2014 01:13 GMT
#214
Watching the NBAtv 1984 draft documentary LIVE NOW. About to go into the Sam Bowie vs. Jordan argument. This goin to be good!!!
Fun facts:
Jordan never took a draft photo with commish Stern.
Stockton was contemplating playing pro in Europe after his senior year in Gonzaga, NBA was never in his thoughts.
Barkley, in a team meeting, told his sixers teammates, who had just recently won the NBA championship, that the offense should be designed around him!
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
June 10 2014 01:26 GMT
#215
People ask me why I support the Heat instead of the Spurs. The Spurs are "nice guys", "all teamwork", and "play basketball the way it should be played."

I support the Heat because I think that LeBron could be one of the top-5 players all-time, and I like watching greatness.

I got into the NBA right at the end of Michael Jordan's prime, when he tore out the heart of the Jazz with that 17-foot jumper over Brian Russell. I didn't appreciate at the time the context of the moment, how difficult that shot really was and why Jordan was so great for making it.

And that's why I like watching LeBron. Watching him carry the Heat over the Spurs is a feat that is 10/10 in terms of difficulty, one of the great individual efforts in the NBA that I can't imagine anyone else doing right now. During game 2, LeBron stepped up his game to a crazy extent, demanding the ball in the second half and then pummeling the excellent defense of the Spurs. Could Kevin Durant, Chris Paul, Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge etc. do this? No way.

It's a joy to watch a genius at work, and sometimes you just have to appreciate the art instead of critiquing little flaws or getting caught up in the drama.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 10 2014 01:32 GMT
#216
Pretty sure all of those guys except Aldridge could. Paul already has, and Durant is a lock for it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
June 10 2014 01:43 GMT
#217
You would be wrong.

The Spurs have already whipped the teams of Dirk Nowitzki, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Kevin Durant. The Trailblazers and the Thunder couldn't beat the Spurs a single time at home.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 10 2014 01:51 GMT
#218
I was speaking in terms of guys carrying teams on their back against the Spurs: Quite a few star players have. They just don't win the series due to other factors.

Need more Oscar Schmidt interviews.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 02:03:41
June 10 2014 02:03 GMT
#219
Lebron James has significantly more help than most of those guys too though. Not to say Lebron isn't great but saying he's carrying against the Spurs and no other player could do it in his situation is false, yeah Dirk Durant etc lost to them but they didn't have the Heat roster either.
SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
June 10 2014 02:10 GMT
#220
Did Donald Sterling really sacrifice 2 billion dollars just to prove a point? Wow, this guy...
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