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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
February 23 2014 15:41 GMT
#2381
what a game that was. WP Canada.
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 23 2014 15:43 GMT
#2382
On February 24 2014 00:38 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 00:25 Shelke14 wrote:
On February 24 2014 00:13 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else finally agree with me that international ice is boring by the way?

So easy to just clog up the ice because there is less chance there will be puck battles.

You are going to unleash the wrath that is JR with this comment


I think we've heard enough of him already ty. -__-


thats where Lamprey comes into play.

but I agree. The tournament in Vancouver was much better than this one.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 23 2014 15:48 GMT
#2383
On February 24 2014 00:13 iCanada wrote:
Anyone else finally agree with me that international ice is boring by the way?

So easy to just clog up the ice because there is less chance there will be puck battles.


I think it has potential but it's hard to say how the NHL would adapt over a full season or two. Too few games with teams that lack a lot of chemistry to make a firm decision.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
February 23 2014 15:53 GMT
#2384
No Tavares, no Stamkos, no problem. Man that was glorious to watch.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 15:58:34
February 23 2014 15:55 GMT
#2385
the players keep getting bigger. and the NHL will eventually respond to this continued increase in player size, strength and weight.
in 1896 when the game was invented and 200X85 was made the players were all the size of Martin St. Louis.

the most entertaining hockey was played by the women on the big ice because the goalies are a lot smaller in the net making every shot much more dangerous.

sry guys.. but the Womens hockey was way more entertaining than the Men's hockey this Olympics....
more lead changes ..
more comebacks...
more epic moments.

and the women have even more open ice.

in addition to increasing the size of the rinks the NHL should increase the size of the net.

i wonder if there will be a party at Maple Leaf Square to celebrate double hockey gold?
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
February 23 2014 16:00 GMT
#2386
Gratz Canada well deserved tournament victory
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 23 2014 16:07 GMT
#2387
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Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
February 23 2014 20:47 GMT
#2388
CANADUUUUUHHH
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 23 2014 22:22 GMT
#2389
Oh canada! Our home and native land!! Great win that was never in doubt. Worth staying up till 4am to watch live! Of course it can't compare to the excitement of 2010 with home ice and crosby scoring the golden goal in OT, but still a great feeling!
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 23 2014 22:32 GMT
#2390
On February 24 2014 07:22 Canucklehead wrote:
Oh canada! Our home and native land!! Great win that was never in doubt. Worth staying up till 4am to watch live! Of course it can't compare to the excitement of 2010 with home ice and crosby scoring the golden goal in OT, but still a great feeling!

Huehuehue, well that's quite easy to say in hindsight?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 23 2014 23:25 GMT
#2391
So there's talk to not letting Backstrom get a silver medal because he has Allergy troubles. It's bad enough they pulled him out of the game because he tested positive for an allergy medication he declared himself to have taken when the test was given to him.

If the IOC doesn't give him a Medal thats just highway robbery
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Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
February 23 2014 23:49 GMT
#2392
On February 24 2014 08:25 Orcasgt24 wrote:
So there's talk to not letting Backstrom get a silver medal because he has Allergy troubles. It's bad enough they pulled him out of the game because he tested positive for an allergy medication he declared himself to have taken when the test was given to him.

If the IOC doesn't give him a Medal thats just highway robbery


With Henrik Sedin, Zetterberg, Franzen and who knows gone from our original line-up Marcus Krüger was the one to hold it down from who our coach wanted from the getgo, and he was not nr 1. For me Krüger is a boss though and can hold down a box play like nobody so not the worst guy to have left but come on, already a broken rebuilt team and they decide to pull Bäckström 2 hours before the finals? What did they think was going to happen? Bullshit ending to a great tournament.

But as to what I wanted to reply to you, from what I read the old "You are using!"-limit on this drug was 15 and when they brought it back they put it at 10x that at 150 so that it would be rather hard to "woops, I accidentally..." get above that. So either he was using way more then just his "My team doc told me a pill was all right" or he has some monster a la Mount Everest of pills. So in my book they can take his medal if they want to, if it used to be 15 and is 150 and he was hitting 190 he has done goofed any way you swing it. Still a shame for the kid, feel for him for sure but come on man don't take shady stuff and definitely don't take pills the seize of a puck just cause that's how it works over in the great promised land of the NHL.
Sorry for the rant but man, I was so FREAKTASTICALLY PUMPED for a great finals and our already broken team gets redone all over again due to some "well it's on the list but we can still sort of use it cause we had a meeting before and yada-yada"-bs that they think they can get away with and then they use pills that would have cleared the old limit of 15 by 13x the amount? Give me a freakin' break... All I wanted was to cheer on my team and watch Loui score some sick goals.

Man... could have been great...
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 24 2014 00:18 GMT
#2393
He was 40 mg over what's allowed. That could easily be explained by his body not processing the drug at an expected rate. He declared the medication on his test form and even the chief medical officer of the IOC thinks Backstrom is being unfairly reprimanded.

Lubomir Visnovsky failed the same test in Vancouver for using the same drug and also declared it on his test form. He was let off with a warning. Why should Backstrom get treated any different?
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 24 2014 00:25 GMT
#2394
Backstrom was caught with about 190 micrograms per mL of Suedophedrine...

Unaware or not, that is doping. That range of Seudophedrine is about 5 times the amount of taking cough/cold/allergy meds as they are recommended on the box. Thats a little egregious.

Sitting there and being upset because your player doesn't pay attention to the rules and got caught is not okay. Its Backstroms fault he wasn't paying attention to the rules. I'm no Olympic athlete and I know that most Controlled Substances (over the counter or not) are illegal in the Olympics.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
February 24 2014 00:30 GMT
#2395
he can have one of those ikea medals ppl are posting all over facebook.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 24 2014 00:33 GMT
#2396
On February 24 2014 09:18 Orcasgt24 wrote:
He was 40 mg over what's allowed. That could easily be explained by his body not processing the drug at an expected rate. He declared the medication on his test form and even the chief medical officer of the IOC thinks Backstrom is being unfairly reprimanded.

Lubomir Visnovsky failed the same test in Vancouver for using the same drug and also declared it on his test form. He was let off with a warning. Why should Backstrom get treated any different?


Actually, no it really can't.

Lubomir was tested before the games, Backstrom was tested during. Different circumstance.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 24 2014 00:37 GMT
#2397
On February 24 2014 09:25 iCanada wrote:
Backstrom was caught with about 190 micrograms per mL of Suedophedrine...

Unaware or not, that is doping. That range of Seudophedrine is about 5 times the amount of taking cough/cold/allergy meds as they are recommended on the box. Thats a little egregious.

Sitting there and being upset because your player doesn't pay attention to the rules and got caught is not okay. Its Backstroms fault he wasn't paying attention to the rules. I'm no Olympic athlete and I know that most Controlled Substances (over the counter or not) are illegal in the Olympics.


I really want to know what kind of advantage he would have gained from that....
Never Knows Best.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 24 2014 00:45 GMT
#2398
On February 24 2014 09:37 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 09:25 iCanada wrote:
Backstrom was caught with about 190 micrograms per mL of Suedophedrine...

Unaware or not, that is doping. That range of Seudophedrine is about 5 times the amount of taking cough/cold/allergy meds as they are recommended on the box. Thats a little egregious.

Sitting there and being upset because your player doesn't pay attention to the rules and got caught is not okay. Its Backstroms fault he wasn't paying attention to the rules. I'm no Olympic athlete and I know that most Controlled Substances (over the counter or not) are illegal in the Olympics.


I really want to know what kind of advantage he would have gained from that....


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16531903

2.5 mg pseudo per kg of blood shows a 2.1% increase in performance of Sprinters. Backstrom tested 190 mg/mL, which is a ~2.1-2.4 mg psuedo per Kg of blood.

So, a reasonable advantage i'd say. Also has pain numbing effects which gives you larger advantage on the faceoff dot and in the corners.
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
February 24 2014 00:46 GMT
#2399
On February 24 2014 09:37 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 09:25 iCanada wrote:
Backstrom was caught with about 190 micrograms per mL of Suedophedrine...

Unaware or not, that is doping. That range of Seudophedrine is about 5 times the amount of taking cough/cold/allergy meds as they are recommended on the box. Thats a little egregious.

Sitting there and being upset because your player doesn't pay attention to the rules and got caught is not okay. Its Backstroms fault he wasn't paying attention to the rules. I'm no Olympic athlete and I know that most Controlled Substances (over the counter or not) are illegal in the Olympics.


I really want to know what kind of advantage he would have gained from that....


He can breath more effectively? Either way, what is banned is banned. If it just simply makes you more chill you have done something to change yourself into probably performing better.
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
February 24 2014 00:48 GMT
#2400
iCanada got his shit sorted, sounds like a useful app as well.
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