This thread is for boxing fans who want to keep up with all the great fights through out the sport without having to find a separate thread.
People might not of caught two great, amazing and exhilarating boxing fights this weekend because they might of forgot or not known about.
So with that being said i will make this thread and add upcoming fights as soon as i know them, i like boxing and some fights are definitely worth watching.
WBC World Light Heavyweight Title Fight Saturday November 30th - Quebec, Canada - 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
Adonis "Superman" Stevenson vs Tony "Bomber" Bellew
The Superman is 22 Wins (19! KOs) and 1 defeat vs Bomber who is 20 Wins (12 KOs) and 1 Loss. The Bomber a Liverpool based boxer has vowed to make Stevenson look like a mediocre fighter when he travels to Stevenson's home town of Quebec to take his title. Stevenson has been getting lots of shouts to make the big fight happen in the entertaining Light Heavyweight division with Sergey Kovalev the bruising undefeated Russian. This match will probably set up a summer date for a Kovalev vs the Winner super fight.
Also the Co Main Event on this card is Kovalev vs Ismayl Sillakh! In a World Title Fight as well! It should be fairly easy fight for Kovalev though but you never know in this great sport.
IBF World Welterweight Title Fight December 7th - New York City, USA - 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
Devon "The Great" Alexander vs Shawn "Show Time" Porter
Devone Alexander comes into this fight with a 25 Win (14 KOs) 1 Loss record to defend his IBF title vs Shawn Porter 22 Wins (14 KOs) undefeated fighter. Should be a cracking Welter weight fight this between 2 of Americas good fighters in this division. Both will be looking for a nice win to set up a bigger fight down the road, possibly a Mayweather or Pacqiao fight might be on the cards for the winner.
However this fight has a great Co Main Event. The grudge match of Zab Judah 42 Wins (29 KOs) 8 Losses vs Paulie Malignaggi 32 Wins (7 KOs) 5 Loses. Both are being labelled has beens so the loser of this fight will most likely end up on a career ending path so the win is vital! Both fighters have been saying they will knock the other guy out and win to continue their hopes of one last shot at the world title belts. Should be a cracking Co Main Event!
IBF Middleweight Title Fight December 7th - Stuttgart, Germany - 20:00 GMT (+00:00)
Darren "Dazzling" Barker vs Felix Sturm
Two tough Middleweights go at it for the IBF title. Barker is 26 Wins (16 KOs) 1 Loss vs Sturm who is 38 Wins (17 KOs) and 3 in his long career. These two are going head to head for the belt Sturm lost to Australian Daniel Geale back in September 2012. Since then Barker has beaten Daniel Geale in a Split decision victory in August this year. Which has set up this title fight between the two European pros. Not sure which way this could go, but you would back Barker having the edge after beating the guy Sturm lost too. Should be a cracking Middleweight contest though!
Not long to go until the Bomber vs Superman fight, should be a tasty affair. They had to be pulled apart at the weight in after they butted heads against eachother and it all got nasty!! Should be great fun and the Kovalev vs Ismayl Sillakh fight before it makes it worth watching.
Wow Kovalev has some freaking power!!! Also Bellew boxed like an amateur was no way he was winning pretty disappointed in him. Oh well on to the good fights in December :D
Good fight on tonight guys! Alexander vs Porter featuring Paulie and Judah. Should be worth a viewing if your interesting in boxing at the highest level
ITS FINALLY HAPPENING!!!! PACQUIAO BY DECISION!! Mayweather will have won the fight in most people's eyes, but the judges, some sort of corrupt effect, will happen and Pacquiao will win it regardless, creating the biggest headline in boxing history, thus reviving the boxing sport... Unless of a knockout, Pacquiao has won this fight already. YOU CAN BOOK IT!!~
On June 08 2015 10:19 JimmiC wrote: Boxing used to have a lot bigger pool. Now especially at the higher weight classes they have even worse issue of lack of talent. The champs are in their 40's.
seeing as this is a boxing comment i'll put it in this thread.
"the higher weight classes"... other than the 39 year old Klitscho who is not in his 40s.... all the fights in the higher weight classes look to me to be guys in their 20s and 30s.
the WBC heavyweight champ is 35 and he won it off of a 28 year old
not sure what u r talking about.
as stated in a previous thread.. since the 70s there have been plenty of heavyweights over 35 and lots of heavy weight champs over 35.. so this is not a new trend. so i don't think have 1 guy over 35 as non-WBC heavyweight champ indicates much.
there may be bad things going on in the sport.. but i don't think the fact that Klitsko is 39 years old indicates anything.
now if all the top contenders in the the 3 biggest weight classes were all 35+ years old.. then that would be cause of alarm. however, this is not the case.
I don't think there is really a discussion. Everyone knows the klitschos have been the champs one or the other for 10 years, which was my point about the lack of depth. That he's 39 and not 40 doesn't change that. And no one (who even remotely follows boxing) considers some alphabet belt holder the heavyweight champ of the world.
you did not say it was merely the heavyweight division. going below heavyweight division none of the top guys are "in their 40s".
the fights i've seen i'd say he Klitchko is somewhat better than the top 5. no different than when Lennox Lewis was champ in his late 30s.
and there have been lots of top heavyweights both champs and contenders in their late 30s since the 70s. i've already listed them.,... HOlyfield, Lewis , Foreman... etc etc.
is Boxing in worse shape than it was in the early 70s when Ali was at the height of his career. imo, yes. none of that has anything to do with today's heavyweight champ being 39.
Which was not my point. My point was there is no more depth issue in UFC than Boxing, and we were specifically talking about heavy weight division. (the fact that you copied a small part of what I said and none of the points before it in hopes of making me look dumb not withstanding) I was saying how the same people, the brothers have been at the top for a long time. One of the main reasons is there is only so many humans that big and many are picking different sports these days. Which has caused a lack of depth.
Also the WBC is one of the alphabet belts it's a term because in most sports there is one world champion in Boxing there can be 5 or more but generally there is one guy who is recognized as the champ, the belts are mainly used to create interest in fights. As I've said over and over no one but the guy promoting a non klitscho would consider them the true heavy weight champ.
On June 08 2015 10:19 JimmiC wrote: Boxing used to have a lot bigger pool. Now especially at the higher weight classes they have even worse issue of lack of talent. The champs are in their 40's.
you have backed off of your original point in its 2 false aspects. the "in their 40s" thing is incorrect and you've conceded on that. and now " the higher weight classes" part you're also backing off from, great.
none of it withstood even basic scrutiny.
the rest of the stuff can be debated forever... however, boxing is not what it was when Ali was at the height of his fame in the early 70s.
has it suffered a decline from say 2005 to now? that's a difficult question. did it decline the day Ali retired. no doubt.
No you really burnt me good when I said 40's and one of the klitscho's is only 39.....
My response was to a comment that boxing had better depth in the HW division than in the UFC. So I don't know how I'm backing off from that? The HW division in Boxing has been dominated by 2 men for the better part of a decade and those 2 men happen to be Brothers. Because of this they won't fight each other so there has not been the super fight build up that there was in past which helps create interest.
Look, this thread is for boxing info not you trying to pick a fight with me. If you want to continue the discussion feel free to PM me, but my guess is if you continue to derail this thread you may get kicked out like you did from the NHL one. So don't expect another public response from me.
"the higher weight classes" where are all the top notch light heavyweights in their 40s?
lots of athletes in lots of sports are at or near the top at age 39. including boxing.
Barry Bonds was teh best hitter in baseball by a wide margin at age 39. This says nothing about the depth of the talent pool in baseball.
Furthemore, the drop off from 39 to 44 in every sport in monstruously huge. yes , the occasional Teemu Selanne, Chris Chelios or Vitali comes along.
it says nothing about the talent pool in hockey or boxing. i mean .. is hockey's talent pool in decline because Selanne played at 43+.. nah. was boxing also dying when Lennox Lewis was champ at 38? how about when Holyfied was champ in 2001?
now if all the best players or boxers were over 35 then there is cause of concern in whatever sport is being discussed.
in 2016 the Olympics will now include pros and this will make it harder for young boxers to get paid training by their home countries. so maybe in the future this problem of aged boxers might occur.
its not happening right now though. you are a man ahead of your time.
Wilder said he was new Mayweather......Wilder vs AJ has got the liking of new super fight ala Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis mode, could be awesome! Heavyweight division is back imo! Shame this wasn't 5 years ago though so we could see the Klichtsko's beaten but if you beat them now its more a well "they are old" comment.
Fight this weekend is Wilder defending his belt vs Eric Molina in which he should knock out within 3 rounds if anyone is interested :D 13th June NA/14th June EU/SEA etc02:00 GMT (+00:00)
Andre Ward vs Paul Smith This fight should be comfortable again for the champ in Andre Ward, Paul Smith is an English fighter who has heart but isn't in the class as Andre Ward. Andre Ward is one of the best fighters in the sport but has the charisma of a fish and thus is not out there getting the fights he deserves which is sad. Also has had injuries and has fought just two times since beating Carl Froch in 2011! 21st June NA/22nd June EU/SEA etc02:00 GMT (+00:00)
Other than that it is just local fighters fighting with nothing that big on the horizon. Unless i have missed something
On June 10 2015 16:56 Pandemona wrote: Wilder said he was new Mayweather......Wilder vs AJ has got the liking of new super fight ala Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis mode, could be awesome! Heavyweight division is back imo! Shame this wasn't 5 years ago though so we could see the Klichtsko's beaten but if you beat them now its more a well "they are old" comment.
just curious, why do you say that the "Heavyweight division is back" ?
is it because the WBC is setting up good heavyweight fights?
If you haven't caught any of Anthony Joshua yet i'll link you his latest knock out of a guy who has been the distance with Vitalli and never (until last weekend) been knocked out/stopped in his whole career.
Well he only 13-0 and that was his first real test. He has the raw power to put either of those two down, he also has the size+reach to go toe to toe with those guys. He is fit and should give a good fight. But as usual in true Heavyweight level you have to be able to take a punch and he has yet to be rocked or anything. Like when Amir Khan came onto the scene we all were ooh wow this guy going to be amazing, for him to be KO'd and embarrassed early on vs Prescott in dramatic scenes. In the heavyweights this can happen even if you are a good fighter so i'd like to hold back domination until i seen him go in with a big puncher survive and win in round 6+ then after seeing that i would call for him to fight one of the big dogs.
But when he looks as impressive as he does before long the promoters get ahead of the trainer and he is in with a guy he shouldn't and the wheels could fall off. Who knows, at the moment the only defeat in his career is by another English heavyweight in the amateurs who has called him out and wants to fight him again. He is currently 10-0 as well and is a huge lad and wants to beat Joshua again. That fight might happen this year also with September rumoured. His next outing is in July but it will most likely be just another training exercise.
Most people think of Tyson as an amazing knock out artist with devastating punching power. Early in his career his defense was amazing. It never seemed to get much attention though. Here is a brief look at his defense.
I was getting ready for a repeat of Lemieux vs Saunders but Wilder's killer instinct and drive for the knockout brought us an epic finale to the bout. Shame that boxing is so corrupt ruining a return to form from the heavyweight division. Vegas makes more money in the short term but after ggg/Canelo 1 and this tilt on the weekend fans are pissed.
Yeah Lennox Lewis summed it up "You can't take the WBC belt out of the US period" jesus was so awful. Every single pundit from, both ShowTime and BT Sport who were broadcasters had Tyson win 10/12 rounds and Wilder winning 2 with 2 knockdowns. Yet some guy had Wilder 115-111 LOL.
Was a great fight though, Fury just ducking diving and timing Wilder with some great combos but even Wilder to his credit managed to land on Fury which didn't look possible for the opening 5 rounds.
if Tyson is on steroids and HGH and possesses the hormone profile of a 21 year old as is rumoured... Jake Paul is not going to know what hit him. I think Jake Paul is going to pull out of the fight.