EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 659
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Akka
France291 Posts
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Mensol
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RIP Spain. | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
On March 06 2014 06:28 Ysellian wrote: We have a generation of youth coming that were back to back European youth champions, we'll see how these guys develop in the coming years. In this team there were guys like Ake, Rekik, Kongolo, Vilhena and Boetius. You also have guys like Krishna and Denswil who look bright. But these guys aren't the guys I'm thinking about though, there is a crop of 16/17 year olds at both Ajax and Feyenoord that look amazing. and honestly. There are far prospects for the next generation than we had for our last which only good contribution was playing great in the group stages to bomb out in the knock-out stage. The final we reached was with the most negative football I've ever seen. It's not the most negative football I've ever seen, perhaps just negative for Netherlands standards. A World Cup finals is still a World Cup finals. Regardless, that was down to the coach, not the players. This was a golden generation for Netherlands really. I absolutely don't see a Robben or RvP running around in our current youth teams. While the under 18's might look really good, I think development really stagnates is a terribly weak Eredivisie. Maybe I'm too pessimistic about the future team but I look at Ajax, the best team in Eredivisie wiped out by Salzburg and it has me worried. This is the league where Dutch youth is developing in and it's just no longer competitive. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
that's my opinion! | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On March 06 2014 07:04 Pantagruel wrote: It's not the most negative football I've ever seen, perhaps just negative for Netherlands standards. A World Cup finals is still a World Cup finals. Regardless, that was down to the coach, not the players. This was a golden generation for Netherlands really. I absolutely don't see a Robben or RvP running around in our current youth teams. While the under 18's might look really good, I think development really stagnates is a terribly weak Eredivisie. Maybe I'm too pessimistic about the future team but I look at Ajax, the best team in Eredivisie wiped out by Salzburg and it has me worried. This is the league where Dutch youth is developing in and it's just no longer competitive. Robben, Sneijder (on occasions) and RvP are big boots to fill, but the rest of the generation wasn't all that great. You look at the squads at 1998/2000 and you see class in all areas of the pitch. Hell Sneijder would probably have been benched. While I agree that the league is crap, I don't think it has to be bad for our youth. Belgium currently have a great squad despite their league being worse than ours. I think the problems you see today are due to Ajax favoring foreign youth talent over the years and Feyenoord mismanagement. I'm still hopeful that things will be different, four years is a long time. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Thats very sweet, he totally got my respect for that  Even though Brazil missing a world class striker and GK, they are not a team to underestimate. They have the best defence and backs imo. Their midfield and wingers are strong too. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
I'm very confident for a good Portuguese showing, first of all we won't get so squashed by the weather since 30º/35º is normal in the summer in Portugal, not the same humidity of course but they will manage. I'm happy if we get to the round of 8 or above! The usual team plus some youngsters and a CR7 on fire can take us there or a bit higher!!!` We probably won't win but you will have to bring your A game to beat this team.. remember only Spain has been kicking us out and it was 1-0 and 1-1(penaltys) I'm from Benfica but Sporting's William de Carvalho.. is like the new Patrick Vieira, he is only 19(edit: 21) but we will have riots if he doesn't play.. This kid will be a world star! i'm happy! | ||
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On March 06 2014 07:21 Ysellian wrote: Robben, Sneijder (on occasions) and RvP are big boots to fill, but the rest of the generation wasn't all that great. You look at the squads at 1998/2000 and you see class in all areas of the pitch. Hell Sneijder would probably have been benched. While I agree that the league is crap, I don't think it has to be bad for our youth. Belgium currently have a great squad despite their league being worse than ours. I think the problems you see today are due to Ajax favoring foreign youth talent over the years and Feyenoord mismanagement. I'm still hopeful that things will be different, four years is a long time. I don't think Frank dr Boer cares if a talent is Dutch or a foreigner. He has used a looot of Dutch players to be honest. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On March 06 2014 08:07 warding wrote: WC (love the acronym) is actually 21 but yes, he is a monster. Thankfully, Sporting will have to sell him soon and he'll get to grow into being one of the best defensive midfielders in a top club (Manchester United?). Do you really think its a good idea to send him Moyes's hands? | ||
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haitike
Spain2727 Posts
btw, Chile played quite well against Germany. I think they really can pass the group phase with Holland or Spain. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On March 06 2014 08:07 warding wrote: WC (love the acronym) is actually 21 but yes, he is a monster. Thankfully, Sporting will have to sell him soon and he'll get to grow into being one of the best defensive midfielders in a top club (Manchester United?). Top club or Manchester United, make up your mind  | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On March 06 2014 05:42 Akka wrote: Blaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiissssseeeeeeeeeeee On March 06 2014 05:43 Makro wrote: matuidiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ![[image loading]](http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/842223737.gif?1394052165) Longer version BTW looks like Kim Källström will actually be available for selection against Everton. Finally. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On March 06 2014 09:53 Pantagruel wrote: Chile dominated Germany today at times but unfortunately lost. I definitely think it will will be a very tough match for Holland even with their best line-up. That last group game should be a good one and will likely decide who goes through with Spain. Don't over-value the performance too much. The Dutch are still quite good. Furthermore, this was 1) a friendly where 2) Germany didn't field their best squad. I still think Chile is a very decisive underdog in their group, and I expect the Dutch to get out of the group fine, along with Spain. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
On March 06 2014 11:31 Stratos_speAr wrote: Don't over-value the performance too much. The Dutch are still quite good. Furthermore, this was 1) a friendly where 2) Germany didn't field their best squad. I still think Chile is a very decisive underdog in their group, and I expect the Dutch to get out of the group fine, along with Spain. Actually not. The only players i can imagine replacing someone are Reus and Khedira, besides them that will most likely be the starting 11 in the first game. | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
On March 06 2014 15:40 Micro_Jackson wrote: Actually not. The only players i can imagine replacing someone are Reus and Khedira, besides them that will most likely be the starting 11 in the first game. Müller!! And Lahm should really play as a defender, we dont have an alternative for him in the national team. Großkreutz was a mess yesterday. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18636 Posts
in bayerns team even players such as contento and rafinha look very very good | ||
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