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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
August 29 2013 09:21 GMT
#3581
Portuguese press claim Manchester City are preparing a 45M€ offer for Mangala from Porto.
Benfica apparently rejecting bids for Matic under his release clause, 50M€.

Benfica has started managing its own TV rights on Benfica TV. Previously all clubs sold their rights to Sportv, the local "Sky Sports". Hopes are that TV revenue will climb from 7M€ last year to over 22M€/year, hoping to leave Porto and Sporting in the dirt (Benfica has the most fans). Along with higher attendances and 'sócios' paying a monthly fee, this should give Benfica a much higher revenue against Porto and Sporting. However, if Porto keeps selling players at >40M€ a pop, that plan is not gonna work.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 29 2013 09:26 GMT
#3582
Porto do seem to have 'dat scouting'
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
August 29 2013 09:31 GMT
#3583
On August 29 2013 18:26 sc4k wrote:
Porto do seem to have 'dat scouting'


Someone should just launch a bid on the whole scouting division of Porto.
But does it djent?
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
August 29 2013 09:53 GMT
#3584
Just to give some perspective, Porto's entire annual costs are around 90 M€. They've already sold Moutinho and James Rodriguez for 70M€ (although that's not a net value). Selling Mangala for 45-50M means they'll have received 115-120M€ in transfers alone, 25-30M€ over their annual budget, not counting tv rights, sponsorship, attendance, monthly sócio fees and other revenues. That's a lot of cash for Porto's management to spend on prostitution.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
August 29 2013 10:00 GMT
#3585
But they usually don't own all rights to the players they buy right?
Vandro
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands384 Posts
August 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#3586
I don't know if Porto has exceptional scouting, they have good contacts with the Doyen Group that temporarily stalls talents in Portugal. This has the positive effect that there are great talents in the Portuguese teams, but the negative effect that they won't get money from the transfers.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2013 10:12 GMT
#3587
Lol Rotterdam tweet ;_;
Someone needs to tell him to use this thread for footy news and not the interwebs He is confident that Erikksen is off to Spurs.When he will no doubt reject that move, if he rejected Bayer Leverkusen. Surely?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
August 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#3588
I'm not entirely sure about Porto, but Benfica usually the majority of the rights of the players, with other agents or a related fund managed by banks (Benfica Star Fund) owning a minority. Throughout the stay of the players at the clubs it's normal to buy and sell percentages of their rights - I think Porto bought 35% of the rights to James in February of this year, having sold those 35% before.

There are however some cases where it's not entirely clear how much control the clubs have over the rights of the players, as was the case with Ramires in Benfica, and currently Ola John and Markovic.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
August 29 2013 10:26 GMT
#3589
hey Chelsea, how about double or nothing? winner gets last 2 years championsleague titles!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 10:29:29
August 29 2013 10:27 GMT
#3590
Tottenham is the club where is buddy Vertonghen plays at so that's definitely a factor Oh and maybe he realized he isn't better than Leverkusen or Tottenham.

Anyway I obviously share Rotterdam's enthusiasm for his possible departure

@Warding, that deal is obviously great for Benfica and their fans, but it does seem pretty shitty for the rest of the league.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 10:35:15
August 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#3591
I personally think Leverkusen >> Tottenham but of course that has my bias on it xD But in terms of genuine chance of getting a champions league place in Bundesliga it goes Bayern > Dortmund > Leverkusen no? Maybe Schalke as well but Leverkusen are 3rd and have a better history in Europe than Tottenham. Tottenham have had 1 adventure into Champions League where even i will say they did way better than expected. But they find it stupidly hard to balance Europe and the League. They are about to lose their best player in Bale and have replaced with good players but nothing like Bale himself.

I just don't see how u can reject Leverkusen and Join Spurs after claiming you want to join a team bigger than Ajax who have champions league football too.

Anyway guess we will wait and see on that one

On August 29 2013 19:26 3point14 wrote:
hey Chelsea, how about double or nothing? winner gets last 2 years championsleague titles!


Haha sounds like a plan? Lets go put it towards UEFA and Chelsea / Bayern xD Would make the game so huge it would be amazing! An extra start to one of the teams! Bayern to get 6 or Chelsea to get 2!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 10:55:01
August 29 2013 10:47 GMT
#3592
Maybe it's the premier league for him, but atm I would say that Leverkusen, Bayern and Dortmund are the safest picks for Top3. Leverkusen also looks reallys strong atm, but we have too see how it works further down the road, especially if Kießling gets injured, most scored goals last season and already 2 goals / 3 assists in 3 games this season.

Edit: German media reports that Podolski is going to miss up to 10 weeks. With an injury he got in a (now) meaningless game......
But does it djent?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2013 11:10 GMT
#3593

Lukas Podolski will be out of action for up to 10 weeks after his hamstring injury proved worse than initially feared.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 11:15:04
August 29 2013 11:12 GMT
#3594
Yep. FML. Now we really do need an attacking midfielder/winger. Cazorla and Rosicky can't play every game together.

BTW, anyone know anything about that Andriy Yarmolenko guy? Is he any good?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 29 2013 11:15 GMT
#3595
jesus christ what a waste of a player in a meaningless match poor Arse.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2013 11:20 GMT
#3596
Yarmolenko is a quick winger/striker. Has a good eye for goal and is 23, can only get better if he came to England imo. He plays well for Ukraine in the national team and is highly respected in Ukraine.
I would say he would take a year to become good in the premiership but he should be a good solid player from his age a good investment imo.
Could esaily get for €10-15million
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
August 29 2013 11:38 GMT
#3597
Are Arsenal after Di Maria?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
August 29 2013 13:48 GMT
#3598
arsenal are looking at a piece of poo on the ground they are that desperate for signings
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 29 2013 13:54 GMT
#3599
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/mathieu-flamini-rejoins-arsenal

Arsenal (finally) make a new signing...but still haven't spent any money this window.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
August 29 2013 14:10 GMT
#3600
On August 29 2013 19:34 Pandemona wrote:
I personally think Leverkusen >> Tottenham but of course that has my bias on it xD But in terms of genuine chance of getting a champions league place in Bundesliga it goes Bayern > Dortmund > Leverkusen no? Maybe Schalke as well but Leverkusen are 3rd and have a better history in Europe than Tottenham. Tottenham have had 1 adventure into Champions League where even i will say they did way better than expected. But they find it stupidly hard to balance Europe and the League. They are about to lose their best player in Bale and have replaced with good players but nothing like Bale himself.

You mean recent history, right? Spurs' history in Europe is much, much better than Leverkusen's overall. They were winning trophies in Europe before Leverkusen had ever been in the Bundesliga.
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