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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2013 23:21 GMT
#1161
lol
Haven't watched many Pistons games, but my impression is that Jennings is an improvement over Knight, no?
I agree that he shouldn't be getting nearly that much money though.

Bucks situation is...interesting.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 30 2013 23:21 GMT
#1162
On July 31 2013 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
I feel so bad for drummond, he needs to get out of there asap

You burn in hell.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 30 2013 23:23 GMT
#1163
On July 31 2013 08:21 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
I feel so bad for drummond, he needs to get out of there asap

You burn in hell.


I went to UConn*

had the pleasure of talking to him and living in the same dorm as him when he was there, amazingly nice guy. I wish nothing but the best for him
I come in for the scraps
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 30 2013 23:25 GMT
#1164
On July 31 2013 08:21 DystopiaX wrote:
lol
Haven't watched many Pistons games, but my impression is that Jennings is an improvement over Knight, no?
I agree that he shouldn't be getting nearly that much money though.

Bucks situation is...interesting.

The salary is actually fine on certain teams, Hawks just got a better deal and I don't understand why the Pistons weren't in on those discussions.

Jennings is an improvement on offense, but a lot of his passing comes by way of dribble penetration, and he's still got an average-at-best shot and poor shot selection (worse than Smith's.) So this team is going to be comically bad at outside shooting and the lane will be incredibly clogged.

Worse than anything else is Jennings' defense. He's an idiot at it. Knight is currently a better, if sometimes confused, defender and his potential is way, way, way higher. Plus he's a guy that gives it his all and gets annihilated by DeAndre Jordan. Jennings just gives up.

I just don't understand the purpose of another scoring guard with a bad outside shot.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2013 23:26 GMT
#1165
Pistons weren't in those discussion probably cause FAs don't want to move in Detroit and Atlanta is an awesome city to live in if you have the tastes that most NBA players seem to (strippers)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 23:30:30
July 30 2013 23:28 GMT
#1166
Come on now, vs. Milwaukee?

You can go visit the Windsor Ballet from here.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 30 2013 23:37 GMT
#1167
I feel like this whole team is built around this magical belief that a single great lockerroom guy (Chauncey) can help turn everyone's careers around and let them unleash their potential.

Sure, it happened for him, but now it has to happen for Smith and Jennings as well.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 23:58:01
July 30 2013 23:56 GMT
#1168
nothing says first round knock out like signing Smith and Jennings to multiple years.


Apparently they are sending back Knight in the trade? oh god...
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
July 31 2013 00:04 GMT
#1169
On July 31 2013 07:35 Jibba wrote:
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK


Loool. GLHF.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
July 31 2013 00:05 GMT
#1170
FWIW, Jennings is an upgrade over Knight.

But it's like the difference between getting shot or stabbed.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 00:28:07
July 31 2013 00:23 GMT
#1171
Big Pistons fan, love the trade.

Glad to see BK7 gone; Jennings ain't the best in the world, but it'll attract more fans and we'll actually start to win some fucking games now.

edit: with a new coach and a relatively new roster, it might cause jannings to stop chucking so god damn much.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 00:41:58
July 31 2013 00:39 GMT
#1172
Jennings is somewhere in the range of #20 amongst starting PGs and I don't see much prospect of him improving. I have watched a lot of the Bucks and he's below average as far as starting PGs go. He has a vastly over-inflated sense of his abilities and his shot selection is incredibly bad. He sucks and finishing around the rim.

His passing is servicable but not great. He can push the pace and is quick at his position. But he really doesn't do anything at an elite level in the NBA. Between Monroe, Smith and Jennings poor Drummond will never see the ball bar the odd alley-pop or putback. I'd have concerns about this team stifling Drummond's development but it looks like Joe needs wins in his contract year.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 31 2013 00:46 GMT
#1173
I don't think anyone (hopefully) is saying he is anywhere near elite, because BK7 wasn't near that level anyways. Pistons have a strong defensive team, and now they added some slight chuckers to try to generate some offense.

I don't think Drummond is going to get affected by this in any way; he's a great player, and he knows how to work with Moose to make plays happen and get boards. Will Knight average out to be a bit better than Jennings in the long run? Maybe, but I think the difference really isn't going to be that much.

And plus, whenever I watch Knight play dude just looks like he's kinda lost sometimes, and almost unsure of what to do. All the starting players on the Pistons now are really confident people who know what they want, and how to get it. Sure, they won't win the championship, but it's going to be a HUGE improvement over last year.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 31 2013 00:50 GMT
#1174
Was having a discussion on Facebook and someone said the Knicks have a legit shot at #1 in the East. I lol'd as I dont take many people in this group seriously anyway but he offered some clarification. I shit you not this is real.

It started with this:


Ok let's be clear our number one scoring option is the best in the league! 2&3 are our guards and MWP.....Bargnani isn't a number one scorer but is much better and the Knicks are much better than most of the teams people on here are touting as barn stormers.....better than the Nets, the Bulls, the Pacers, the Heat! You can't seriously believe the hate you're spewing.....Knicks are better than all your teams! And don't even get me started on broke ass OKC.....


Then I started laughing but wanted clarification so then this post came up. I'm thinking to offer a straight money bet.


Lets be real....I'll break it down for those basketball impaired.....

Bulls: coming off a year long injury nobody knows the kinda player Rose will be....however good he is however he won't be more or less an asset than Robinson was.....at best they're the same team as last year which the Knicks were better than record wise although not in head to head matchups because the Knicks lacked the toughness to compete that they now have

Nets: basically the Celtics with a center......Knicks busted the Celtics asses all last year and KG and Pierce are only getting older as we speak......Knicks bench is better as well

Miami: was better than Miami last year and got much better losing some finesse scoring in exchange for toughness without losing too much in the scoring department

Indiana: got lucky Melo was hurt last year and Smith was with some club's bartender every other night.....if that wasn't the case they would have beat them last year but now with MWP and height in Bargnani, Chandler can focus on protecting the rim and getting rebounds and no more or this silly lob passes every other day that we had to rely on.....now we can kick it out to the corner three or free throw line extended and make their bigs commit or get torched by either MWP or Bargnani for three.....

So to answer your question it's a long season so something's depend on injury and stuff but yea I think number one is clearly an easily met objective
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 31 2013 00:54 GMT
#1175
"Nets: basically the Celtics with a center"

hahahahahahahahahahahaha oh god
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 31 2013 00:57 GMT
#1176
knicks fans have to be delusional, they would be extinct in such a big market otherwise
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 31 2013 00:59 GMT
#1177
On July 31 2013 09:46 beesinyoface wrote:
I don't think anyone (hopefully) is saying he is anywhere near elite, because BK7 wasn't near that level anyways. Pistons have a strong defensive team, and now they added some slight chuckers to try to generate some offense.

I don't think Drummond is going to get affected by this in any way; he's a great player, and he knows how to work with Moose to make plays happen and get boards. Will Knight average out to be a bit better than Jennings in the long run? Maybe, but I think the difference really isn't going to be that much.

And plus, whenever I watch Knight play dude just looks like he's kinda lost sometimes, and almost unsure of what to do. All the starting players on the Pistons now are really confident people who know what they want, and how to get it. Sure, they won't win the championship, but it's going to be a HUGE improvement over last year.

But now they're paying Jennings 8m for the next 3 years.

There's no reason to get every piece at the same time. Jennings is a bit of an upgrade over Knight, but Knight is on a rookie contract and certainly has more room to grow, which is unlikely for Jennings. Jennings will almost certainly not be close to their best option come a year or two from now.

It's like when the Pistons signed CV and Gordon. They spent money just because it was available. You don't rebuild all your positions in a year unless the truly right pieces are available. The fact that Jennings is overall better than Knight doesn't mean he's worth the commitment.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 31 2013 01:04 GMT
#1178
On July 31 2013 09:57 rabidch wrote:
knicks fans have to be delusional, they would be extinct in such a big market otherwise
They are. Go back 10 years and they were trying to trade Marbury for Shaq, straight up.
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beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
July 31 2013 01:08 GMT
#1179
On July 31 2013 09:59 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 09:46 beesinyoface wrote:
I don't think anyone (hopefully) is saying he is anywhere near elite, because BK7 wasn't near that level anyways. Pistons have a strong defensive team, and now they added some slight chuckers to try to generate some offense.

I don't think Drummond is going to get affected by this in any way; he's a great player, and he knows how to work with Moose to make plays happen and get boards. Will Knight average out to be a bit better than Jennings in the long run? Maybe, but I think the difference really isn't going to be that much.

And plus, whenever I watch Knight play dude just looks like he's kinda lost sometimes, and almost unsure of what to do. All the starting players on the Pistons now are really confident people who know what they want, and how to get it. Sure, they won't win the championship, but it's going to be a HUGE improvement over last year.

But now they're paying Jennings 8m for the next 3 years.

There's no reason to get every piece at the same time. Jennings is a bit of an upgrade over Knight, but Knight is on a rookie contract and certainly has more room to grow, which is unlikely for Jennings. Jennings will almost certainly not be close to their best option come a year or two from now.

It's like when the Pistons signed CV and Gordon. They spent money just because it was available. You don't rebuild all your positions in a year unless the truly right pieces are available. The fact that Jennings is overall better than Knight doesn't mean he's worth the commitment.

8M for the next 3 years is pretty damn cheap compared to both what is still out there, and how much we are paying some players already on the team.

At this point though it's all speculation about what will happen to either players; I could turn out to be completely wrong and BK7 has an amazing season, or I could be somewhat right and the new additions help us get into the playoffs. Still, I feel really confident with this team right now. Still, I'd much rather pay 8M a year for Jennings then pay a bit more this year for fucking CV.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 01:13:50
July 31 2013 01:10 GMT
#1180
We'll be a playoff team, but a first round playoff exit should not be the goal for this franchise. It reeks of short term thinking.
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