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Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
June 17 2013 12:42 GMT
#1541
both teams like to push the fast transition offense, too. As soon as they turn over the ball from defense, someone slings it halfway down the court to force a 1v1 or 2v2. Can be hard sometimes for defenders to stay in position when they are trying to stop the fast break towards the net. It allows the shooting gaurd to camp the 3 point line undefended while the PG draws the defenders when he rushes the basket
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 17 2013 13:29 GMT
#1542
Is it time for another legendary Lebron game 6?
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 17 2013 15:20 GMT
#1543
On June 17 2013 21:21 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah i get the, like some of the shots are just undefendable of course, but there was SO MUCH SPACE not just the odd bit of daylight you refer too.


Ace will probably not like this but
http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2013/06/13/san-antonio-shooters/
darkness overpowering
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 17 2013 15:20 GMT
#1544
Are there any sites where you can watch a replay of the entire game 5? Can't find anything but fisher sites.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 17 2013 17:16 GMT
#1545
On June 18 2013 00:20 On_Slaught wrote:
Are there any sites where you can watch a replay of the entire game 5? Can't find anything but fisher sites.


there are torrents, can find them easily with google
starleague forever
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 17 2013 18:15 GMT
#1546
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
either I or
Profile Joined September 2012
116 Posts
June 17 2013 18:21 GMT
#1547
The heat are mentally weak, that's all there is too it.

Lebron is a pampered premadonna with the mental strength of a rotten egg.
Wade is a diva who broke his body far earlier than normal.
Bosh is a pussy, always has been, always be.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
June 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#1548
http://nba.si.com/2013/06/17/tony-parker-danny-green-2013-nba-finals-san-antonio-spurs-miami-heat/

Spurs’ Tony Parker on Heat’s defense: ‘I can’t believe Danny Green is still open’

SAN ANTONIO — Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. So what happens if Danny Green fools you an NBA Finals-record 25 times in just five games? Shame on Miami’s defense, of course.

Green hit six three-pointers in San Antonio’s 114-104 victory over Miami on Sunday, helping to deliver a 3-2 series lead as the teams head back to South Florida for Game 6 on Tuesday. His remarkable three-point run now includes 25 makes through the first five games, already an NBA record. He’s an unconscious 25-for-38 (65.8 percent) from deep in the Finals, yet somehow still manages to find sufficient daylight to launch.

“I can’t believe he’s still open at this moment in the series,” Spurs point guard Tony Parker said after Game 5. “They are still trapping me and doubling [Tim Duncan], and Danny is wide open. He’s shooting the ball well. If you are going to leave Danny wide open, he’s going to make threes.”

Boom. That’s about as thorough a roasting as an opponent will get from the notoriously tight-lipped Spurs.

Confronted with Parker’s words, Dwyane Wade responded by giving credit rather than taking issue with the assessment of the Heat’s defense.

“He’s making some hell of a shots,” Wade said. “He’s also getting some stuff in transition. They’re running a lot. And he’s the beneficiary of Tony Parker’s penetration. He’s getting some shots but he’s making them. Give them credit, man. He’s knocking them down. Not many guys have shot the ball this well, especially in the Finals.”

Green, who finished with 24 points, opted against twisting the knife.

“I’ve been getting lucky,” he said. “I was moving around a lot. Our transition helps us, our pace. Tony penetrating and Manu [Ginobili] penetrating, making the defense collapse is the reason why I’ve been getting open. Luckily a couple have dropped for me.”

With his fourth three-pointer of the night, Green passed Heat guard Ray Allen for the NBA Finals record for most made three-pointers in a series. Allen hit 22 in six games as a member of the 2008 title-winning Celtics against the Lakers.

“I’m lucky enough, blessed enough to have the opportunity to be on the stage,” Green said of the record. “My teammates have done a great job of finding me and getting me open, and as I said, luckily it seems everything is going right for me. I’m feeling truly blessed right now. There’s got to be a Higher Power. I owe it all to God. The basketball gods are in our favor right now.”

Is there a way to stop Green — who is making a strong case for Finals MVP should the Spurs take the series — other than to hope that he finally starts missing?

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said slowing down the onslaught begins with taking away Green’s easiest opportunities.

“He’s getting some open looks and he’s making some contested shots,” Spoelstra said. “The open looks are the ones that are killing us.”

A second-round pick in 2009, Green was released by both the Cavaliers and Spurs before he finally stuck for good last season, earning himself a three-year, $11.3 million contract last summer. Green, 25, averaged a career-high 10.1 points this season and shot 42.9 percent from three-point range.

“The whole season has made him more confident,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. “He’s been somebody that has gotten a lot of minutes, basically has a green light. When you do it for 82 games, the only thing left is to see if you do it when the real lights come on come playoffs time. He’s pretty well answered that question.”
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 17 2013 19:01 GMT
#1549
On June 18 2013 03:21 either I or wrote:
The heat are mentally weak, that's all there is too it.

Lebron is a pampered premadonna with the mental strength of a rotten egg.
Wade is a diva who broke his body far earlier than normal.
Bosh is a pussy, always has been, always be.


Please don't spoil our rational hatred of the Heat with your irrational hatred of the Heat. :p
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 19:03:17
June 17 2013 19:01 GMT
#1550
Green has been on firee but the article brought up a few thoughts.

If there are two negative things that can be said about James is 1. his fragile mindset 2. his closeouts to the 3-pt line/shooter could be better. To be fair, most knowledgeable defensive people have said that it is one of the hardest aspects on D to do.

The Heat defense is also designed to take advantage of their skilled, athletic perimeter players ( few years ago, they arguably had the top 2 in Wade and LBJ if we included defensive capabilities and offense together, which is why Wade's apparent decline would be more impacting than any Bosh shenanigans).

With Wade not at 100%, and the Spurs offense being so good, and the LBJ remark on closing out I have said, I can see how it plays into some of the things brought up in your post Vindic. Spurs are making them work, and as the games go on and tired legs kick in, the harder it is to get back out to those 3's after having to help inside on the penetration. Green is making them pay.

"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 17 2013 20:00 GMT
#1551
Ill be surprised if parker doesnt win mvp if the spurs win, he is the reason green gets open, he is playing with great offensive effciency, he hit an incredible game sealing shot in game one, and he will be a key part in securing another win.



Greens been shooting well, and good defense, but parker still is their most impactful player offensively, by far.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 20:24:53
June 17 2013 20:23 GMT
#1552
On June 17 2013 21:06 Pandemona wrote:
I guess, but isn't marking/defending in basketball pretty much you have a man you mark him/follow him around the court? I guess the turnover on either side make marking harder, but still, the amount of free 3 shots he had was quite outstanding xD

Also im not the biggest NBA fan, i don't watch enough to know it indepth tactically.

This article is an interesting read if you want some basic analysis
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/65645/we-went-there-manu-reigns-and-miami-sputters-in-game-5

@MVP debate- IMO still goes to Duncan. Voters will want to give it to him one last time, plus you can't say he's undeserving. Anchoring the defense down low, and if all else fails in a possession the Spurs know they can dump it down to him in the post vs Bosh, where he'll do some form of fake, fake, spin into bank shot off glass for an automatic bucket. It's not the flashiest basketball play but it's pretty much the most consistent form of scoring they have.

I think Parker would be a good runner-up choice, as dude above me has stated Green wouldn't be open if it weren't for the Spur's offensive scheme, Parker/Ginobili drawing so much help, the Heat being plain bad at defense, and pretty much everyone on the Spurs, even the big men (Diaw/Duncan/Splitter) being so damn good at passing the ball. Danny Green doesn't break the 3pt record in the finals on any other team in the league, which imo kills any argument you can make for him being Most Valuable.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
June 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#1553
As someone else put it on Reddit. I can't shoot 70% from 3 in my dreams wide open in the Gym, much less in the finals.

The guy is shooting 65% from 3. You simply CAN'T downplay that. That shatters what Stephen Curry was doing earlier this postseason when everyone was singing his praises.

I know that Parker is definitely involved in how open Green is getting and I know that a majority of his success is coming from the ball movement that San Antonio has but in the end he's still the one putting the ball in the basket.

I mean look at this shit. [image loading]

I don't care what team you play for or how open Parker is getting you, this is fucking ridiculous.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 17 2013 20:45 GMT
#1554
If stephen curry had someone passing him the ball for open 3s instead of taking them off the dribble/contested he'd shoot 70% from 3 too.

I'm not saying he's not doing well but I don't think he's most valuable. Any 3pt specialist that has decent decent defense can do a similar job as Green too. Maybe not as well, but reasonably well. There aren't many point guards or centers that can do what Parker/Duncan are doing, and maybe no SGs left that can do what Manu did last game.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 21:32:22
June 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#1555
On June 18 2013 05:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
As someone else put it on Reddit. I can't shoot 70% from 3 in my dreams wide open in the Gym, much less in the finals.

The guy is shooting 65% from 3. You simply CAN'T downplay that. That shatters what Stephen Curry was doing earlier this postseason when everyone was singing his praises.

I know that Parker is definitely involved in how open Green is getting and I know that a majority of his success is coming from the ball movement that San Antonio has but in the end he's still the one putting the ball in the basket.

I mean look at this shit. [image loading]

I don't care what team you play for or how open Parker is getting you, this is fucking ridiculous.

i left my laptop open on this page in the living room,my dad walked by said that must be a pretty hot team if they are shooting like that lol
Cackle™
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 17 2013 21:35 GMT
#1556
haha that's awesome. And it's just one guy shooting that crazily by himself. lol.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 17 2013 21:42 GMT
#1557
Somehow I feel Deandre+pick for rivers+kg is an insanely one sided trade. Moreso if pierce becomes a FA one way or another. Celtics going into tank mode?
starleague forever
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 17 2013 21:49 GMT
#1558
On June 18 2013 04:01 MassHysteria wrote:
Green has been on firee but the article brought up a few thoughts.

If there are two negative things that can be said about James is 1. his fragile mindset 2. his closeouts to the 3-pt line/shooter could be better. To be fair, most knowledgeable defensive people have said that it is one of the hardest aspects on D to do.

The Heat defense is also designed to take advantage of their skilled, athletic perimeter players ( few years ago, they arguably had the top 2 in Wade and LBJ if we included defensive capabilities and offense together, which is why Wade's apparent decline would be more impacting than any Bosh shenanigans).

With Wade not at 100%, and the Spurs offense being so good, and the LBJ remark on closing out I have said, I can see how it plays into some of the things brought up in your post Vindic. Spurs are making them work, and as the games go on and tired legs kick in, the harder it is to get back out to those 3's after having to help inside on the penetration. Green is making them pay.


The Heat have had problems defending the 3 all three years, but part of that is because you don't really want Lebron/Wade always playing out that far. Sticking Lebron or Wade on Green on the perimeter means the help defense is going to suffer.
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Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
June 17 2013 22:28 GMT
#1559
On June 18 2013 06:42 a176 wrote:
Somehow I feel Deandre+pick for rivers+kg is an insanely one sided trade. Moreso if pierce becomes a FA one way or another. Celtics going into tank mode?

Eh the rest of the team is still good enough to be a 7-8 playoff seed. I wish it was a true a rig for wiggs type team though haha.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2013 23:53 GMT
#1560
What is the point of the current Celtics roster though? Lose in the 1st/2nd round while constantly declining?
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