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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
July 02 2013 17:38 GMT
#1721
On July 02 2013 14:09 Arisen wrote:
Down another 5 lbs

My cardio days are not going well. I do running 4 days a week, but on Sunday I just don't know what to do or can't. I try to fit the rower at high resistance for 2k meters, but I Peter out after about 700 meters and struggle to reach a thousand. I don't really know what else to do on cardio days, I try to hit stationary bikes but the seats on those things kill my ass. I could try the spinning bikes, but that's really my only other ideas. Any tips on how to get the most out of my cardio days?

if you feel like youre not doing well, you might want to consider just resting on Sunday. that or do some form of really low intensity cardio (like taking a 45min brisk walk). it seems like you're doing a lot of work everyday of the week (your strength days and your cardio days). it's hard to make progress if you don't give yourself enough time to recover.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
July 02 2013 17:46 GMT
#1722
Only zhangkong bar i used was SUPER soft knurling, was hard to get a good grip on it. Spin was kinda bad but i think that was due to how it was transported not how it was made. Not a bad bar overall.

Pendlay bars are pretty good. obv the more expensive one spins better.

Eleiko - i love the old ones but i have had way too many problems with the newer ones locking up and shit.

Werksan - there's a comp bar at my gym we use and it's pretty good

DHS - my favorite in terms of knurling/spin/whip. Coincidentally also the one my coach sells. love em.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Dewski
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States68 Posts
July 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#1723
DHS bars are really, really good. Fantastic bars.

The new Pendlay bushing bar just spins great based off the videos and is just unbeatable in the 300$ range. I don't think you should buy anything less than this bar to be honest. One of the few bushing bars to be 28mm too.

Uesaka bars are hella nice but really expensive. I normally don't like to use black bars but damn that bar felt good. People say they spin bad but the one's I've used spun well.

PS Don't buy bars from Rogue. From the packaging I've seen before, Pendlay, Eleiko, and DHS (especially DHS) ship their bars in a way that keeps it protected while Rogue skimps like crazy on packaging (a little flimsy tube). Trust me and don't deal with that, bearing bars can't take it.
"Others don't understand because I train every day of my life as they have never trained a day in their's." Александр Александрович Карелин
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
July 02 2013 20:51 GMT
#1724
Lols at rogue bars. They sponsored the arnold, what a nightmare. I think my coach is sponsoring nationals with DHS this year though so that should be good.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 02 2013 21:29 GMT
#1725
Thanks for the input. I've looked into DHS and there is no UK importer, in fact I didn't find a mention of them from Europe at all. Unfortunately importing one would mean extortionate prices and I wouldn't be able to try it first or send it back, so that's not an option.

I definitely want a bar with bearings instead of bushings. I've actually got a powerlifting bar already that's like 30mm, but it really sucks arse for weightlifting, it's a cheap-ish bar with a really high weight rating, so you can imagine what the spin is like.

Rogue is a crossfit make right? I've heard of them online but not sure if they're even sold over here. I will avoid though.

I'm kind of disappointed I didn't like the Eleiko more as I love all the bars at my club, they're all old Eleikos apart from a random 80s russian one. There's always a chance it was an odd bad one, but specifically I'm pretty sure the spin on one side was better than on the other, and the knurling seemed kind of overkill, especially with chalk.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 16:28:39
July 03 2013 03:06 GMT
#1726
On July 03 2013 06:29 Deadeight wrote:
Thanks for the input. I've looked into DHS and there is no UK importer, in fact I didn't find a mention of them from Europe at all. Unfortunately importing one would mean extortionate prices and I wouldn't be able to try it first or send it back, so that's not an option.

I definitely want a bar with bearings instead of bushings. I've actually got a powerlifting bar already that's like 30mm, but it really sucks arse for weightlifting, it's a cheap-ish bar with a really high weight rating, so you can imagine what the spin is like.

Rogue is a crossfit make right? I've heard of them online but not sure if they're even sold over here. I will avoid though.

I'm kind of disappointed I didn't like the Eleiko more as I love all the bars at my club, they're all old Eleikos apart from a random 80s russian one. There's always a chance it was an odd bad one, but specifically I'm pretty sure the spin on one side was better than on the other, and the knurling seemed kind of overkill, especially with chalk.


For dhs equipment: http://dynamic-eleiko.com/ contact either todd lyons or bud charniga (my coach) via phone or e-mail

Yeah rogue is shit, some crossfit brand out of ohio.

We have a relatively new eleiko bar at one of my gyms and one side of it ALWAYs locks up. so annoying. The competition one is pretty good but thats expensive as hell.


edit: just listening to weightlifting talk and pendlay called in and pretty much echo'd my sentiments that the 20+ year old eleiko bars were great and doesn't like the new ones at all lol.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 03 2013 04:10 GMT
#1727
I would just find the closest barbell supplier, the shipping fee will be very high.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 19:26:33
July 04 2013 02:40 GMT
#1728
edit: Nevermind
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
July 04 2013 05:37 GMT
#1729
I've decided to stay out of the gym for a few days at least after injuring my back. I feel much better today (2 days since I injured myself), and was thinking of going back in the gym, but I wasn't sure it was a good idea. For the most part, any discomfort is gone. The only way I still have anything is if I make an exaggerated arch in my lower back (trying to push my tailbone up), or leaning way forward and creating an arch in the opposite way; and pain is really the wrong word. It's more like a pressure or the final few seconds of a good stretch where it's just starting to get uncomfortable.

I'm not sure If I slipped a disc or if it's something else. I really hope I din't slip a disc, and it seems to me that if I did, it would be much worse than what I have now, though I can't be sure. I can't really go to the doctor for him to check.

How long should I wait till I get back in the gym, and how do I go about going forward after the injury? What should I be looking out for in high weight deadlifts to make sure I'm not going to re injure myself? I have no idea what it was last time because I didn't have a video to see where my form was compromised.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
July 04 2013 08:45 GMT
#1730
If I were in your shoes, Arisen, I'd definitely wait for full diagnosis by a doctor. Back injuries are scary stuff. As for the DL form, make sure you're taking videos from now on, and also be sure your spine is neutral and braced. Ease off on the weight if you're compromising spinal position even slightly with high weight, IMO.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
July 04 2013 15:21 GMT
#1731
On July 04 2013 11:40 Malinor wrote:
I don't write girl blogs, but I need to let out my frustration somewhere where there are people that I like. So inside the spoiler, there is nothing but a stupid girl story, more like some somehow connected thoughts. So before you open it, you have been warned.
If only, it helps me to sort out my thoughts.

Really, it is just blabbering about a girl. Just don't open it if you don't care, I don't expect you to. I just need to clear my head somehow.

+ Show Spoiler +
Internet dating really is not that different from regular dating. You are the guy, so you have to do all the work. And after nearly two months, you either realize that you either took the wrong turn somewhere and it is not recoverable, or that you simply have been played the entire time. I don't know yet which one it is, but it hurts equally bad.

Basically it is easy. You write some and finally you meet. And then, more often than not, nothing happens because it just doesn't fit. It is at least interesting and you get to know some girls and it is not particularly painful.

Until you find a girl that you like, before you have even seen a proper picture. She lives far away, but you just have to write her. She responds, and then it is just wonderful for a couple of weeks. I came on a little strong, she just triggered something inside me, I was never like this in contact with other women. Anyway, I pressured a bit too much sometimes, but everything was well.

Just for reference, she is 21 and I am 30.

She wasn't to eager to get on the phone with me, I never understood that. So we just wrote. She is a soldier, so when the floodings came to east germany, she just was very busy and contact died down a little bit. But after all is said and done, she said she has two weeks off in july and she wants to visit me. She wanted to stay at my place, I though that was a brave move at best, fucking stupid for a 21 girl to stay with someone she hasn't even talked to is probably the more appropriate term. But after 6 weeks of contact... I don't know, I guess there is already something fishy about that.

The cancellation comes a week later, saying she isn't feeling to well and has a doctors appointment and probably has to go to the hospital. I respond saying that now I really need to talk to her (on the phone) the same day. When she doesn't respond until 10pm, I write an SMS, telling her if she doesn't want to talk, she just needs to tell me. All hell breaks lose, she responds that she is tired of me telling her that she does not write back frequently enough.

We fight a little bit over the weekend, she is telling me she is not too sure about us anymore. If I can't handle not hearing from here sometime, it could never work out with her job and the distance...
I really don't think that expecting someone to respond to SMS sometime is that much of a stretch, if you're hundreds of miles apart. And it is not like 20texts a day, I basically write one every other day. Besides, am I really that crazy to want to talk to her on the phone urgently after six fucking weeks? All the other women wanted to meet me in 2 weeks time for crying out loud. Besides, I was already dialing it down, giving her way more space... since she was going to visit me anyway...

After the fighting, she says let's calm down and not talk tonight, but tuesday, after the meeting with her doctor. I agree, I really don't have any other choice, at this point.

Tuesday at noon, she writes that she is now going to the hospital and therefore calling could be difficult, getting out of the station and all. I don't know how much sense that makes. Nothing happens.

Wednesday (today) I sent her a message that I am at home and we could talk... no response, again. But she had time to write on her FB, so she has surely gotten my message.

(Just for the sake of it, unless everything is a lie (onlinedating-profile, FB-profile, FB-friends), she really is at a hospital right now.)

Now what the fuck to do? Do I go on writing, pretending nothing happened, to get in our normal groove again? Is it unreasonable for me to want to talk to her while she is in the hospital (with some stomach issues, she doesn't have a stroke for crying out loud...)? Is it just me or are hospitals mostly a boring affair where you have time to spare? Couldn't she just answer my sms "sorry, I don't feel well"?

After 7 weeks of chatting and filling 50 pages full of text, am I stupid to think that one heated discussion should be recoverable?
Did she ever really want to visit me in the first place? I mean how likely is it that she doesn't even needed to talk to me before committing...

Or is it just because she is just fucking 21 and basically still a child in some aspects of this, at least compared to me.

Right now, I feel like I am being played and the reasonable thing would be to walk away. After all, if she cares, she will answer eventually. And if she doesn't, well, there is my answer.

I guess I just should wait for her to write me. And then I'll just tell her in a friendly way, that if she wants this to go on, she knows my phone number. It probably won't help me to run after her. God, how I hate those games between the two sexes, I really really hate them.

If she hadn't offered to come to visit me, this would all have been so much easier. I was ready to call her out before that for just not committing. After all, it is very easy to write one email every other day. But to maybe plan that kind of thing, offering to visit with the goal of cancelling... how batshit insane of a plan would that be? And if she really wanted to come, how likely is it that one weekend conversation gone bad is gonna change her mind so drastically?

I am at a total loss right now. Yeah, I probably should not care that much over someone I haven't even seen (in real life) or spoken to. But yeah, with her it just felt different. And that is what makes it so hard to accept that the most likely answer is, that something about this smells fishy. Feel free to disagree with me, please


I apologize for hijacking this space, I just needed to write something down somewhere. I need to train harder to control my frustration.


How much proper relationship experience do you have? This all sounds very fishy and sketchy. Sounds like she was hiding something. Can I just get this straight - did she express the desire to stay at your house before actually talking to you on the phone? If so, no matter how desperate you are, get the hell out of that.

The only way to meet people online properly is to as soon as possible migrate it to RL. And if they live a long distance away or are travelling about, I would certainly advise against it.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 19:26:06
July 04 2013 16:07 GMT
#1732
edit: That stuff doesn't belong here, but it helped me to release some stress
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
davidyang
Profile Joined June 2013
United States5 Posts
July 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#1733
I increased my squat from 110lbsx5 to 140lbsx5 in two weeks after I started training. Is this pretty good progress?
Sup guys. :)
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
July 04 2013 18:11 GMT
#1734
Assuming you're moving up 5 lbs every session, at three sessions per week, this is approximately linear progress, so yes! This is the expected progress on Starting Strength. Make sure to continue eating and sleeping enough - this is the fastest progress you'll enjoy in your lifting career
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
July 04 2013 18:32 GMT
#1735
On July 03 2013 05:32 Dewski wrote:
PS Don't buy bars from Rogue. From the packaging I've seen before, Pendlay, Eleiko, and DHS (especially DHS) ship their bars in a way that keeps it protected while Rogue skimps like crazy on packaging (a little flimsy tube). Trust me and don't deal with that, bearing bars can't take it.


Packaging should not be an issue, seeing you get a life long warranty from rogue. The bars itself have been reviewed to be superb bars with a 28mm thickness, too :D.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 06:55:02
July 05 2013 06:54 GMT
#1736
I'm finally back below 105kg for good... 103,9kg this morning, but I didn't drink much after a hard run yesterday. But anyway, good enough. My goal is to get below 95kg by christmas, which means I have to cut around 70.000 kcal. That should be doable.
And a half-marathon below 2 hours in November, which is gonna be harder.

Anyway, finally some tangible goals again to report on.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 08:48:04
July 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#1737
Up last night drinking till 2am, up 3 hours later to go to the gym? Whyyyy? Oh well, gonna make the best of it
YOLO
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
July 05 2013 09:39 GMT
#1738
On July 05 2013 17:47 BigAsia wrote:
Up last night drinking till 2am, up 3 hours later to go to the gym? Whyyyy? Oh well, gonna make the best of it

Oh man, frown town. I hate doing that to myself. The dilemma of training in shitty shape or missing a day just kills me.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 05 2013 10:07 GMT
#1739
I've spent the last three days staying up late and playing league. Last night I was so sleep deprived I couldn't even play league. My eyes kept shifting out of focus, and despite being in a promotion series my fucks were robustly withheld and I played like an idiot. I got angry at first, but then I recognized the problem and just went to bed. Or so I thought. Tired as fuck, could barely hold my eyes open but I kept surfing the web on my phone for another hour.

Whyyy brain, whyyyyyyyy?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
July 05 2013 10:51 GMT
#1740
On July 05 2013 18:39 KaoReal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 17:47 BigAsia wrote:
Up last night drinking till 2am, up 3 hours later to go to the gym? Whyyyy? Oh well, gonna make the best of it

Oh man, frown town. I hate doing that to myself. The dilemma of training in shitty shape or missing a day just kills me.


Haha it actually wasn't that bad. The hardest part is waking up, when I'm there its actually pretty good. Of course if I do it several days in a row its just bad news bears all around
YOLO
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