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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
March 25 2013 19:47 GMT
#6641
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#6642
kerzhakov so bad xd
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 25 2013 21:10 GMT
#6643
Haha Sated XD
Makes sense, i started one with my mate online and he was newcastle, sold half his team and bought Lewandoski and i bought a few kids from Barca Youth. I just play Fallaini holding mid and u win most games
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 21:19:49
March 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#6644
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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
March 25 2013 21:22 GMT
#6645
fred always saving our ass lol
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 25 2013 21:41 GMT
#6646
Fred! Scored a stunner vs England too!
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
March 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#6647
lol I love his name
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 26 2013 08:50 GMT
#6648
Mourinho to Chelsea confirmed?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 09:32:39
March 26 2013 09:16 GMT
#6649
Holy shit, Ysellian dont give me a heart attack like that xD
After doing some "digging" on the situation and had many a laugh at reading the press articles, I'm pretty sure we are no where near knowing where Mr Mourinho will end up next season, but what it does look like, it is a two way shoot out between Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain for where he will manage.

I think it will be a fun May for football fans, and quite a circus in the silly English and French press with stories being thrown around left and right.

What i do hope, that the on story of Torres going back to Atletico Madrid is true. They look certain to lose Mr Falcao in the summer, opening up a fairly decent wage slice which Torres would easily accept. Then hopefully (for his sake) he will rediscover his form and help keep Atletico Madrid competitive in La Liga and their little El Nino will be back as a god again.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 10:16:20
March 26 2013 10:15 GMT
#6650
Haha sorry Pandemona XD I was reading the news on my phone and a dutch site said they had confirmation on Mourinho signing for Chelsea, but I was a bit skeptical so I had to ask for sure and apparentely it wasn't true (yet?).

Anyway yeah,Torres for Falcao seems like a great swap for all parties involved. Like you said, if Torres rediscovers his form, which should be more likely in his hometown than anywhere else, he is a top striker and Falcao seems to be able to score anywhere he goes.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 26 2013 10:20 GMT
#6651
Lol Torres for Falcao is not a fair trade and I'm sure even the Atlético fans/manager/staff know it.

They will do it because the russian guy is loaded and will keep throwing money at them until they accept.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
March 26 2013 10:20 GMT
#6652
Montenegro vs England has now become a classic football rivalry xD
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 10:29:49
March 26 2013 10:25 GMT
#6653
It is a fair trade if Torres rediscovers his Atletico form......214 Appearance 82goals , but that was him being a young kid, he then left and scored 65goals in 102 games for Liverpool, 1goal in 2games ratio, which is nice. Obviously Falcao's 59appearances and 45goals is quite outstanding xD but i don't see Torres being to shy of that if he hits his form from his previous years there, with Adrian and co around him like Falcao has xD

But it is not going to just be Torres for Falcao will be Torres +20-25million for Falcao, which is more than fair? You get (potentially) a world class striker for a world class striker and money to help their debt situation xD

On March 26 2013 19:20 Maenander wrote:
Montenegro vs England has now become a classic football rivalry xD


Due to England being so shit, they take games vs Montenegro as "hard" "tough" international fixtures...because we are that bad, it quite sickens me at how much the press jump on everything and blow it all out of proportion. England, rank 4th team in the world, are taking Montenegro who are ranked 28th as a tough game they could easily lose. It's a joke >.< we should be turning these over 4/5-0 on paper, but because it's England and our pansy footballers can't handle the slightest bit of pressure to go out and do what they do for their clubs week in week out, it all turns to shit. Quite embarrassing if you ask me

How on earth we drew with both Poland and Ukraine and got ourselves into this position in the first place is another story too. It is not hard to win these games with the kind of players England actually have to choose from, the reason we don't who knows, but i can't point the finger at the manager just yet....
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 26 2013 10:56 GMT
#6654
@Neo, well I did say "if" he finds his form
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
March 26 2013 11:16 GMT
#6655
On March 26 2013 19:25 Pandemona wrote:
It is a fair trade if Torres rediscovers his Atletico form......214 Appearance 82goals , but that was him being a young kid, he then left and scored 65goals in 102 games for Liverpool, 1goal in 2games ratio, which is nice. Obviously Falcao's 59appearances and 45goals is quite outstanding xD but i don't see Torres being to shy of that if he hits his form from his previous years there, with Adrian and co around him like Falcao has xD

But it is not going to just be Torres for Falcao will be Torres +20-25million for Falcao, which is more than fair? You get (potentially) a world class striker for a world class striker and money to help their debt situation xD

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On March 26 2013 19:20 Maenander wrote:
Montenegro vs England has now become a classic football rivalry xD


Due to England being so shit, they take games vs Montenegro as "hard" "tough" international fixtures...because we are that bad, it quite sickens me at how much the press jump on everything and blow it all out of proportion. England, rank 4th team in the world, are taking Montenegro who are ranked 28th as a tough game they could easily lose. It's a joke >.< we should be turning these over 4/5-0 on paper, but because it's England and our pansy footballers can't handle the slightest bit of pressure to go out and do what they do for their clubs week in week out, it all turns to shit. Quite embarrassing if you ask me

How on earth we drew with both Poland and Ukraine and got ourselves into this position in the first place is another story too. It is not hard to win these games with the kind of players England actually have to choose from, the reason we don't who knows, but i can't point the finger at the manager just yet....


Every player from England seems to play in a different system, and they're brought in to the national team. Look at Spain and Germany as the teams to beat, they're basically each made up of 2 teams from their league (Bayern/Dortmund, RM/Barca). It's all-star team syndrome. No 2 players from the back four are from the same team. MU has 3 midfielders on the roster, but they don't start, the starting mids are all from different squads.

But at least your team has quality players, with the US we just have to pray that Dempsey does something great every game or its incredibly boring... unless they're in snow up to their ankles like last week, that's fun for everyone.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
March 26 2013 11:26 GMT
#6656
That cannot be the main reason, i fail to give that reason any justification. There is no reason why world class players cannot play next to/with other world class players, it's not like they come together the day of the game either? They have a good solid week of training before they play, if they cannot get to grips with a different partner by then they deserve to be dropped.

Like the biggest load of crap i have heard in any footballing chat/punditry/analysis is that Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard cannot play CM together, it's crap. They can, and they could if they are allowed to do so, im pretty sure, Lampard and Gerrard arguably two of the best CMs England have ever produced cannot tell each other, you go up this time ill stay back, or something else tactical then i give up on professional footballers having the slight bit of a brain in their heads. Im pretty confident they will start together tonight in fact anyway, needing to actually win a game, their should be no need to play Cleverly next to Gerrard, they should give Lampard the first 60minutes atleast.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
March 26 2013 12:51 GMT
#6657
On March 26 2013 20:26 Pandemona wrote:
\

Like the biggest load of crap i have heard in any footballing chat/punditry/analysis is that Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard cannot play CM together, it's crap. They can, and they could if they are allowed to do so, im pretty sure, Lampard and Gerrard arguably two of the best CMs England have ever produced cannot tell each other, you go up this time ill stay back, or something else tactical then i give up on professional footballers having the slight bit of a brain in their heads. Im pretty confident they will start together tonight in fact anyway, needing to actually win a game, their should be no need to play Cleverly next to Gerrard, they should give Lampard the first 60minutes atleast.


That may well be true, but the fact is that they rarely if ever have played well together. and if it was really as simple as you say it is then either Lampard and Gerrard are numbskulls or just dont give a shit.

Either way it doesnt look to good. Lets see.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 13:06:18
March 26 2013 13:05 GMT
#6658
Well they haven't been played there together much? Never have had the opportunity too on an extended run?

In the last matches in which England was competitive, the Gerrard/Lampard combination yielded five wins, two draws and two losses, a win percentage of 55 percent.

Is the best information i can find on when they have played together, on a competitive level.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 13:32:22
March 26 2013 13:27 GMT
#6659
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 26 2013 13:31 GMT
#6660
I feel that England is just a 2nd tier team, with good players, some very good (Rooney, Lampard, Gerard, Cole), but on average a lot weaker than teams like Spain, Germany, and even Argentina or the Netherlands. If the individuals of your team aren't the best, you can still be decent if you have an idea of playstyle or at least a team cohesion. But that's not the case in the England team because of internal disputes (Terry/Ferdinand, Lampard/Gerard), lack of a good management (or no stability) and the recent' tactical weakness' trend in the Premier League (it's just my opinion, the EPL is probably the most entertaining league but tactically speaking....).

The 'problem' is that the club culture is so huge there that the national team suffers. Look at Spain, during the season Barça and Madrid are always fighting (on the field, out of the field), but when the national team time comes up they're united.
And I agree that having 6-7 players from Barça + 3-4 from Madrid, and the same in Germany with Dortmund/Bayern, must really help.
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