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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 13:45:47
December 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#3681
Man, David Luiz in CDM makes so much sense. You don't have the horror of him being your last line of defence, you give him some licence to attack (which he takes anyway even if in CB position...oh the horror), and you add some physical size which you lose if you put Azpi on the right -> Ivan in CB and leave Luiz out.

As much as I love RDM and he is a hero of mine, I also like Rafa. Along with Martinez they are both nice guys and I enjoy when they turn up in the Sky TV show that discusses the Spanish league.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#3682
On December 13 2012 22:44 sc4k wrote:
Man, David Luiz in CDM makes so much sense. You don't have the horror of him being your last line of defence, you give him some licence to attack (which he takes anyway even if in CB position...oh the horror), and you add some physical size which you lose if you put Azpi on the right -> Ivan in CB and leave Luiz out.

As much as I love RDM and he is a hero of mine, I also like Rafa. Along with Martinez they are both nice guys and I enjoy when they turn up in the Sky TV show that discusses the Spanish league.


I agree with Luiz playing in the middle aswell. His skill set is so much more valuable there.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 13 2012 15:07 GMT
#3683
Made an absolute gem of a pass as well to Hazard in the opening 5minutes which Hazard should of finished as well. Like the commentators said today, the real test for him in that position might be vs Leeds in the league cup on Weds.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 13 2012 21:19 GMT
#3684
Some partial truths and alot of funny about Mou,

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/2242?cc=5901
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 13 2012 21:32 GMT
#3685
i can't tell if i just got trolled or not reading that article
but i love it xD
Hey! Listen!
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
December 14 2012 06:24 GMT
#3686
lol

[image loading]
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 14 2012 07:15 GMT
#3687
On December 14 2012 15:24 BeaTeR wrote:
lol

[image loading]


I especially liked how he nonchalantly hit him, like a 12year old girl dancing.
If football had a superhero pantheon, he would be the greatest villain. lol
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 14 2012 14:22 GMT
#3688
ROFL Pepe. Stay classy.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
December 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#3689
lol Pepe XD
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 14 2012 15:41 GMT
#3690
Did they lose that game aswell?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 14 2012 15:55 GMT
#3691
On December 15 2012 00:41 Pandemona wrote:
Did they lose that game aswell?


That is the game they lost.

I would be suprised if they didnt take the rubber though, its just standard Mou Third year itch. His team is too good.

sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
December 14 2012 16:25 GMT
#3692
On December 15 2012 00:55 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 00:41 Pandemona wrote:
Did they lose that game aswell?


That is the game they lost.

I would be suprised if they didnt take the rubber though, its just standard Mou Third year itch. His team is too good.



I think Mou's a legend but if he has a weakness it's his tactical side. He is more of a motivator and leader than a tactician. I think his tactics get figured out quicker than some other top managers. One shouldn't be confused though: Mou puts such a large amount of time into studying the opposition players and learning their personal weaknesses and strengths, his 'man tactical awareness' is incredible, but I think his overall strategic awareness is fairly weak. He is great at focusing on components and making them as good as they can be but I'm not convinced he can, for example, invent new tactical solutions to general problems.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 19:01:48
December 14 2012 17:10 GMT
#3693
On December 15 2012 01:25 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 00:55 Rebs wrote:
On December 15 2012 00:41 Pandemona wrote:
Did they lose that game aswell?


That is the game they lost.

I would be suprised if they didnt take the rubber though, its just standard Mou Third year itch. His team is too good.



I think Mou's a legend but if he has a weakness it's his tactical side. He is more of a motivator and leader than a tactician. I think his tactics get figured out quicker than some other top managers. One shouldn't be confused though: Mou puts such a large amount of time into studying the opposition players and learning their personal weaknesses and strengths, his 'man tactical awareness' is incredible, but I think his overall strategic awareness is fairly weak. He is great at focusing on components and making them as good as they can be but I'm not convinced he can, for example, invent new tactical solutions to general problems.


I dont know if thats a weakness. I think I've said this before and this is pretty much what your saying. He doesnt have any tactics as such.

When he plays weaker opposition he knows his team is better than he tends to leave them with a pretty basic game plan of go play better and win.

Stronger opposition he takes on a game by game basis. His ability isnt strategic brilliance, its execution. He drills his teams to play the way they need to play that he believes will have the best chance of winning. He doesnt bring any "new" strategy or style to the table. He just picks the best one for the situation. Not all teams take well to that especially star filled teams because alot of the time the methods are incredibly pragmatic even cynical.

Their is a fair bit of science involved in that method though and getting teams to take his methods in stride and then do it well, especially talented teams takes alot of managerial ability. Motivation and mind games aside.

My main issue is that once he achieves a certain level he thinks hes done his job and thats that. Hes like an energy drink.

When the crash starts coming he starts making those oft quoted contradictions. "The loss is on me because I am the coach, but the players are sucking." or something to that effect. Ofcourse Im paraphrasing but you get the point.

Still winning is winning however you do it.


ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 18:54:09
December 14 2012 18:52 GMT
#3694
To be fair, that gif cuts out the ball though which he did kick back with that motion right under the frame, it was unclear whether there was any intent there or if he knew he was right behind him.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
December 15 2012 17:54 GMT
#3695
Liverpool lose to Aston Villa at home lol
Swish 41
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany154 Posts
December 15 2012 19:08 GMT
#3696
Pepe is know for raging, so I think that was definitly no accident! He was banned 10 games before, this should be at least the rest of the season!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
December 15 2012 19:54 GMT
#3697
What's funny is that Brendan Rodgers seemed to be some sort of Guardiola-like tactical genius bringing Swansea up playing attractive football and then doing great in the prem. Then he gets transferred to Liverpool and they make a documentary about him and his season with the Reds. And it immediately emerges that he's just a standard UK manager...down to earth, almost straightforward...not some cultured tactician that people might have believed lol. And he's having a rough time with Liverpool. THe team has a bunch of 'good' players but it really doesn't click and there are some HORRIBLE weak links, plus a lack of people who can 'put the team on their back'. Most of the time if Suarez has a bad day, Liverpool has a bad day.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 15 2012 19:56 GMT
#3698
I don't understand how they can beat West Ham the way they did without Suarez, then get Suarez back, and at home and lose in the fashion they did. It really is strange how crazy Liverpool's form has turned these last 4/5 seasons (since the end of Rafa)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
December 15 2012 20:26 GMT
#3699
On December 16 2012 04:54 sc4k wrote:
What's funny is that Brendan Rodgers seemed to be some sort of Guardiola-like tactical genius bringing Swansea up playing attractive football and then doing great in the prem. Then he gets transferred to Liverpool and they make a documentary about him and his season with the Reds. And it immediately emerges that he's just a standard UK manager...down to earth, almost straightforward...not some cultured tactician that people might have believed lol. And he's having a rough time with Liverpool. THe team has a bunch of 'good' players but it really doesn't click and there are some HORRIBLE weak links, plus a lack of people who can 'put the team on their back'. Most of the time if Suarez has a bad day, Liverpool has a bad day.


Guardiola has never been tested outside Barcelona either. There are very few managers who have repeated impressive things at more than one club.
Van Gaal is the only one who comes to my mind at once.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 15 2012 21:15 GMT
#3700
On December 16 2012 05:26 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 04:54 sc4k wrote:
What's funny is that Brendan Rodgers seemed to be some sort of Guardiola-like tactical genius bringing Swansea up playing attractive football and then doing great in the prem. Then he gets transferred to Liverpool and they make a documentary about him and his season with the Reds. And it immediately emerges that he's just a standard UK manager...down to earth, almost straightforward...not some cultured tactician that people might have believed lol. And he's having a rough time with Liverpool. THe team has a bunch of 'good' players but it really doesn't click and there are some HORRIBLE weak links, plus a lack of people who can 'put the team on their back'. Most of the time if Suarez has a bad day, Liverpool has a bad day.


Guardiola has never been tested outside Barcelona either. There are very few managers who have repeated impressive things at more than one club.
Van Gaal is the only one who comes to my mind at once.

It's true, lots of managers fail to translate their success to other clubs, but still quite a few do.
Mourinho, Hitzfeld, Rehhagel, Benitez - all of them were very successful at more than one club
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