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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 09 2012 17:21 GMT
#4461
On June 08 2012 22:35 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 13:33 phyre112 wrote:
On June 08 2012 08:44 sJarl wrote:
3rd rugby practice today. Fellas thought it was a good idea to bring me along on full contact stuff.

I didn't last long and I'm not looking forward to waking up tomorrow...

Mad props to Phyre and Decaf and other rugby players. It is the shit.


What position do they have you playing in scrums? You're ~191cm 100kg last I knew, is that still right?


I'm not that tall, only 185cm and I've lost some weight due to laziness and school. They didn't have a specific place yet although one of the older guys wanted to have me as a hooker. Apparently I could throw pretty far lol.

We had a tiny pitch, perhaps 5x10m and just went at eachother. Called it mauling or something. I need to do some more cardio lol.



If you can, and you don't already have good people in this position, push for being a flanker imo. I was a flanker when I was younger till I got taller and now play no. 8, which is pretty similar to be honest. As a flanker you'll be out of the scrums quickly and get good opportunities to smash some backs. Some people love hooker, ours does, but you are pretty much last out of the scrum and you'll generally be expected to make decisions which can be hard if you are new.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#4462
On June 10 2012 02:01 Raidern wrote:
Guys, I realized I'm not flexible enough to do *proper* squats. What is causing it? Let me explain:

1 - I can "squat" below parallel
2 - When I do that, my knees never go beyond the tip of the toe (which they should, at least from what I've read). They mostly stay around the mid of the feet.
3 - I can't do this movement (youtube vid). When I try to do that, I fall backwards.

I'm posting this because I used to do high-bar Squats, but I switched to low bar because I was having pain on my glutes (I think it's related to the sciatic nerve). I read that low bar is easier on your lower back, so I changed it. Ever since I changed it, it has definitely helped with the pain on my glute, but now I've been feeling pain on my knees, which led me to think that I'm not doing proper squats.

From what I'm reading, it seems I have "short calves". Is it fixable? Because of all this, I'm considering changing, temporarily, to a Upper/Lower split schedule where I'll squat less often, until the "problem" is solved and I can squat properly 3 times a week. My knees hurt in a way that I feel like they are 'tired', and I'm scared that something bad will happen next time I squat.

Help!

I recommend you just spend some time after each workout stretching, it's done wonders for my mobility (though I'm still no spiderman). Also, proper warmup. And if you still can't bend properly, stand your heels on some weights or get proper lifting shoes
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
June 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#4463
gah weightlifting has suckeddd in the past couple of sessions

tried 120kg today for deadlift and my grip totally fucked me over. had to do 110kg and i was still having problems even though i was doing 115 last time just fine.

got knee pain so i'm stopping squats for now. gonna start when it stops hurting. had no progression on my squat for the last 3 weeks because of the pain.

i've been eating decent (gained like 3 pounds in last 2 or so weeks) but i've been generally feeling aches in my back and legs for the past 2 weeks.

hate to rant but last 3 weeks it's been so frustrating. hopefully my "slump" ends by summer. i shouldn't need to take a break while my lifts are still so novice... time to eat a fuckton and power through.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 09 2012 18:24 GMT
#4464
On June 10 2012 03:18 shawster wrote:
gah weightlifting has suckeddd in the past couple of sessions

tried 120kg today for deadlift and my grip totally fucked me over. had to do 110kg and i was still having problems even though i was doing 115 last time just fine.

got knee pain so i'm stopping squats for now. gonna start when it stops hurting. had no progression on my squat for the last 3 weeks because of the pain.

i've been eating decent (gained like 3 pounds in last 2 or so weeks) but i've been generally feeling aches in my back and legs for the past 2 weeks.

hate to rant but last 3 weeks it's been so frustrating. hopefully my "slump" ends by summer. i shouldn't need to take a break while my lifts are still so novice... time to eat a fuckton and power through.


Get some chalk, completely fixed it for me. Steel isn't exactly grippy so a small amount of sweat just means it slides out of your hands pretty easily. I can't use chalk at my gym so I use liquid chalk.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
June 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#4465
On June 10 2012 02:14 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 23:11 Flicky wrote:
Just signed up for a gym membership nearby. Took a tour of the place and it looks great. Got a pool, sauna, steam room and normal cario/machines. What's really cool is that it has a dedicated weight room which is quiet (no music, TV) and is just free weights and racks/benches. Nothing else. Looks perfect for what I want. The person giving me a tour didn't try to sell me anything and told me that I should keep running outside and stick to free weights which surprised me a bit. I hear so much negativity about the gym industry that I didn't expect that.

First workout there should be on the 18th after my induction.

Also got my blood pressure measured. I'm 115/53 and my resting heart rate is 45(!). The person measuring it was pretty shocked but I've never had any sort of problems with it and the staff member they called over said it shouldn't be a problem if I've had it all my life.



Any chance that was a Virgin Active?


It was a Freedom Leisure. There is a Virgin Active nearby but it's too far out for me to reliably get too. I've heard good things about the nearby Virgin Active.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
June 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#4466
On June 10 2012 03:24 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:18 shawster wrote:
gah weightlifting has suckeddd in the past couple of sessions

tried 120kg today for deadlift and my grip totally fucked me over. had to do 110kg and i was still having problems even though i was doing 115 last time just fine.

got knee pain so i'm stopping squats for now. gonna start when it stops hurting. had no progression on my squat for the last 3 weeks because of the pain.

i've been eating decent (gained like 3 pounds in last 2 or so weeks) but i've been generally feeling aches in my back and legs for the past 2 weeks.

hate to rant but last 3 weeks it's been so frustrating. hopefully my "slump" ends by summer. i shouldn't need to take a break while my lifts are still so novice... time to eat a fuckton and power through.


Get some chalk, completely fixed it for me. Steel isn't exactly grippy so a small amount of sweat just means it slides out of your hands pretty easily. I can't use chalk at my gym so I use liquid chalk.


Yeah ima see if I can buy some today actually
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 09 2012 22:12 GMT
#4467
On June 10 2012 03:59 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 02:14 Deadeight wrote:
On June 09 2012 23:11 Flicky wrote:
Just signed up for a gym membership nearby. Took a tour of the place and it looks great. Got a pool, sauna, steam room and normal cario/machines. What's really cool is that it has a dedicated weight room which is quiet (no music, TV) and is just free weights and racks/benches. Nothing else. Looks perfect for what I want. The person giving me a tour didn't try to sell me anything and told me that I should keep running outside and stick to free weights which surprised me a bit. I hear so much negativity about the gym industry that I didn't expect that.

First workout there should be on the 18th after my induction.

Also got my blood pressure measured. I'm 115/53 and my resting heart rate is 45(!). The person measuring it was pretty shocked but I've never had any sort of problems with it and the staff member they called over said it shouldn't be a problem if I've had it all my life.



Any chance that was a Virgin Active?


It was a Freedom Leisure. There is a Virgin Active nearby but it's too far out for me to reliably get too. I've heard good things about the nearby Virgin Active.



It was just a guess, as I stayed at my brothers in London and went to the nearby virgin active, massive difference from a Uni gym. The guys working there knew what they were on about when I saw one training a guy on weights and nutrition. The steam room/sauna was something I hadn't seen in a gym before, quite nice.

Was Freedom Leisure pricey?
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
June 09 2012 22:20 GMT
#4468
On June 10 2012 07:12 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 03:59 Flicky wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:14 Deadeight wrote:
On June 09 2012 23:11 Flicky wrote:
Just signed up for a gym membership nearby. Took a tour of the place and it looks great. Got a pool, sauna, steam room and normal cario/machines. What's really cool is that it has a dedicated weight room which is quiet (no music, TV) and is just free weights and racks/benches. Nothing else. Looks perfect for what I want. The person giving me a tour didn't try to sell me anything and told me that I should keep running outside and stick to free weights which surprised me a bit. I hear so much negativity about the gym industry that I didn't expect that.

First workout there should be on the 18th after my induction.

Also got my blood pressure measured. I'm 115/53 and my resting heart rate is 45(!). The person measuring it was pretty shocked but I've never had any sort of problems with it and the staff member they called over said it shouldn't be a problem if I've had it all my life.



Any chance that was a Virgin Active?


It was a Freedom Leisure. There is a Virgin Active nearby but it's too far out for me to reliably get too. I've heard good things about the nearby Virgin Active.



It was just a guess, as I stayed at my brothers in London and went to the nearby virgin active, massive difference from a Uni gym. The guys working there knew what they were on about when I saw one training a guy on weights and nutrition. The steam room/sauna was something I hadn't seen in a gym before, quite nice.

Was Freedom Leisure pricey?


It seemed expensive to me but I don't really know. I'm paying £41 a month which does seem high (note I am in the South-East which is the second most expensive part of the country after London) but it works out well enough versus buying my own stuff.

I've been to three gyms in this area over time and only one hasn't had a steam room or sauna but it was a really small place. It seems almost like a requirement around where I am. But then again, a lot of the gyms round here are kinda big. We have a bunch of huge leisure centres.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 09 2012 23:42 GMT
#4469
On June 10 2012 07:20 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 07:12 Deadeight wrote:
On June 10 2012 03:59 Flicky wrote:
On June 10 2012 02:14 Deadeight wrote:
On June 09 2012 23:11 Flicky wrote:
Just signed up for a gym membership nearby. Took a tour of the place and it looks great. Got a pool, sauna, steam room and normal cario/machines. What's really cool is that it has a dedicated weight room which is quiet (no music, TV) and is just free weights and racks/benches. Nothing else. Looks perfect for what I want. The person giving me a tour didn't try to sell me anything and told me that I should keep running outside and stick to free weights which surprised me a bit. I hear so much negativity about the gym industry that I didn't expect that.

First workout there should be on the 18th after my induction.

Also got my blood pressure measured. I'm 115/53 and my resting heart rate is 45(!). The person measuring it was pretty shocked but I've never had any sort of problems with it and the staff member they called over said it shouldn't be a problem if I've had it all my life.



Any chance that was a Virgin Active?


It was a Freedom Leisure. There is a Virgin Active nearby but it's too far out for me to reliably get too. I've heard good things about the nearby Virgin Active.



It was just a guess, as I stayed at my brothers in London and went to the nearby virgin active, massive difference from a Uni gym. The guys working there knew what they were on about when I saw one training a guy on weights and nutrition. The steam room/sauna was something I hadn't seen in a gym before, quite nice.

Was Freedom Leisure pricey?


It seemed expensive to me but I don't really know. I'm paying £41 a month which does seem high (note I am in the South-East which is the second most expensive part of the country after London) but it works out well enough versus buying my own stuff.

I've been to three gyms in this area over time and only one hasn't had a steam room or sauna but it was a really small place. It seems almost like a requirement around where I am. But then again, a lot of the gyms round here are kinda big. We have a bunch of huge leisure centres.



Ah yeah I'd imagine Surrey especially would be quite different. It's ok in Southampton but where my parents live in Oxfordshire/Bucks I was 1hr away from a gym with free weights.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
June 10 2012 00:57 GMT
#4470
On June 10 2012 02:14 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 23:11 Flicky wrote:
Just signed up for a gym membership nearby. Took a tour of the place and it looks great. Got a pool, sauna, steam room and normal cario/machines. What's really cool is that it has a dedicated weight room which is quiet (no music, TV) and is just free weights and racks/benches. Nothing else. Looks perfect for what I want. The person giving me a tour didn't try to sell me anything and told me that I should keep running outside and stick to free weights which surprised me a bit. I hear so much negativity about the gym industry that I didn't expect that.

First workout there should be on the 18th after my induction.

Also got my blood pressure measured. I'm 115/53 and my resting heart rate is 45(!). The person measuring it was pretty shocked but I've never had any sort of problems with it and the staff member they called over said it shouldn't be a problem if I've had it all my life.



Any chance that was a Virgin Active?

We've got Virgin Active gyms in SA and they're damn good. They don't have quite as many squat racks as I'd like (generally two per gym), but they always have quality equipment and tons of free weights. From what I've seen, they also have between 5 and 8 benches per gym, which is nice. To add to that, they never complain when I use chalk and they don't seem to care if I drop my deadlifts either. Another bonus is that there are Virgin Actives all over SA so I can still visit the gym when I'm away from home. All in all, I'm pretty happy with them.
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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
June 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#4471
I remember seeing videos or tutorials on foam rolling. But I cant seem to find any ones right now and google gives me doubtful results.

Any favorite foam rolling videos? :X
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
June 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#4472
On June 10 2012 21:47 Advocado wrote:
I remember seeing videos or tutorials on foam rolling. But I cant seem to find any ones right now and google gives me doubtful results.

Any favorite foam rolling videos? :X

Check out MWOD (mobility workout of the day).

http://www.youtube.com/user/sanfranciscocrossfit This guy basically has it all right (in my opinion). Search the bodypart you are having trouble with and (i used to have issues with my hip flexors and glutes, was fixed within a week by this channel) watch the videos that show up.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
June 10 2012 14:14 GMT
#4473
On June 10 2012 21:49 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 21:47 Advocado wrote:
I remember seeing videos or tutorials on foam rolling. But I cant seem to find any ones right now and google gives me doubtful results.

Any favorite foam rolling videos? :X

Check out MWOD (mobility workout of the day).

http://www.youtube.com/user/sanfranciscocrossfit This guy basically has it all right (in my opinion). Search the bodypart you are having trouble with and (i used to have issues with my hip flexors and glutes, was fixed within a week by this channel) watch the videos that show up.


Thank you
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#4474
On June 10 2012 03:18 shawster wrote:
gah weightlifting has suckeddd in the past couple of sessions

tried 120kg today for deadlift and my grip totally fucked me over. had to do 110kg and i was still having problems even though i was doing 115 last time just fine.

got knee pain so i'm stopping squats for now. gonna start when it stops hurting. had no progression on my squat for the last 3 weeks because of the pain.

i've been eating decent (gained like 3 pounds in last 2 or so weeks) but i've been generally feeling aches in my back and legs for the past 2 weeks.

hate to rant but last 3 weeks it's been so frustrating. hopefully my "slump" ends by summer. i shouldn't need to take a break while my lifts are still so novice... time to eat a fuckton and power through.


That's not true. I'd take a week deload if I were you. I know it sucks, but a week off is better than a month injured.

also, reset your squat.

Victory Loves Preparation
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
June 10 2012 21:14 GMT
#4475
My squat's been creeping towards "powerlifting" rather than "oly" as I add more weight to it... stance was getting much wider than shoulder width, only hitting parallel rather than really getting down there... Reset the weight 10%, and made sure to go narrow stance, high bar, ATG on friday. I felt the soreness before my last sets were even done, in my quads and my glutes (hammies are fine. My hammies are baller compared to the rest of me) and then when I finished my worksets, I dropped 60 pounds and did another four sets "for form" - I'm still sore, two days later. I've been eating poorly because I need to go grocery shopping. Wasn't used to this fridge, and I let ~$30 of meat, milk, and greek yogurt go bad because the door wasn't shutting =(.

I'm not using creatine right now though, and i'm still weighing in ~188, 190, and lean!. Might have lost a pound this week but I'll put it back!
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 10 2012 22:36 GMT
#4476
can anybody link me to liquid chalk? I'm done using cloth to save my hands from fucking slipping. .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 10 2012 23:36 GMT
#4477
On June 11 2012 07:36 funkie wrote:
can anybody link me to liquid chalk? I'm done using cloth to save my hands from fucking slipping. .



Well, this is a link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fitness-Mad-Liquid-Chalk-250ml/dp/B000U2AQR0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339371297&sr=8-1

But it's the UK amazon. All liquid chalk seems to be the same, you may find it advertised for rock climbing or pole dancing instead of weight lifting.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 10 2012 23:52 GMT
#4478
On June 11 2012 08:36 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 07:36 funkie wrote:
can anybody link me to liquid chalk? I'm done using cloth to save my hands from fucking slipping. .



Well, this is a link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fitness-Mad-Liquid-Chalk-250ml/dp/B000U2AQR0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339371297&sr=8-1

But it's the UK amazon. All liquid chalk seems to be the same, you may find it advertised for rock climbing or pole dancing instead of weight lifting.


Thanks, I found this one on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Edelweiss-Liquid-Chalk/dp/B000MWC9IM/ref=pd_sim_hpc_5

If anybody has any links that'd be awesome, i'll wait a few days before I order mine.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 10 2012 23:55 GMT
#4479
You could consider getting "green" climbing chalk, that's a lot cheaper than that. I used to use the stuff in Colorado, it's basically "non-marking" shit.

http://www.rei.com/product/627550/metolius-eco-ball

I can vouch for it not marking shit up, and helping grip, I was using it on sandstone in places where marking chalk is banned, and it's amazing.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 11 2012 00:08 GMT
#4480
Starting bulking tomorrow, goal is go get from 76kg to 80-82kg (8 weeks, last 3 will be base smolov). Then cutting to 77-78 and hoping to be fucking ripped finally :p
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