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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 17 2011 17:12 GMT
#181
On October 17 2011 18:49 Lorken wrote:
Is two days break from running enough (per week)? I read that 3-4 days a week is enough but I get bored so I run most days and two days a week I'm swimming so no run on those days.


There isn't really a magic number that is "enough" or "too much". It varies from person to person and often depends on goals.

For general health and fitness 3 or 4 days a week of running is good and will give you the exercise benefits to cardiovascular works and will definitely improve your basic level of aerobic fitness.

Now if your goal is to do serious training and get as fast as possible, your going to want to be running eventually 12-14 times per week. Almost all elite runners train twice a day, though it varies how often, if at all, they take a true day off.

Basically, it all depends on your goals. But yes, 3-4 days a week is certainly enough to maintain good health and "stay in shape".



EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
October 18 2011 06:03 GMT
#182
Sweet cheers, might take Sunday off for everything and just chill from now on. Sometimes I wonder if the effort of being fit is worth it though, the only thing I enjoy about the running is being alone with trees all around me and the feeling you get when you finish a really long run
LOUD NOISES!!!
beberly
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 17:14:41
October 18 2011 17:03 GMT
#183
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Also, I was looking at the general guidelines in the OP for pacing. Since I can't even "race" a mile in 12:00, it appears that my running pace should be 16:00 - 17:00. I walk faster than that (15:00 or so is my usual walking pace according to RunKeeper). I guess I just don't understand how to "run" more slowly than I walk. I know they're different motions, but it's difficult to slow myself down that much. I just feel like if I'm running, I should be moving FASTER, you know?
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 17:18:29
October 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#184
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.

I'm not reallt going to give you any specific or technical tips as I'm newb, so all I can offer is general advice and encouragement. :-D
beberly
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 17:23:39
October 18 2011 17:21 GMT
#185
On October 19 2011 02:15 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.


I guess my concern is that I can easily run in bursts, walk for a bit, then run some more. After the mile, I walked for a bit and felt like I could have started running some more (it may have only been .3-.4 mi. running intervals, but I could have pushed out more), but the OP discusses the whole not-having-to-slow-to-a-walk thing. I was trying to avoid the interval-ish type of running that I'd done in the past, for fear that it might not be the best idea. Then again, c25k suggests the interval approach for the first several weeks. HOW DO I EVER RECONCILE THIS INCREDIBLE DISCREPANCY?!!?!

/so confused....::cries::
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
October 18 2011 17:57 GMT
#186
On October 19 2011 02:21 beberly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 02:15 Sm3agol wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.


I guess my concern is that I can easily run in bursts, walk for a bit, then run some more. After the mile, I walked for a bit and felt like I could have started running some more (it may have only been .3-.4 mi. running intervals, but I could have pushed out more), but the OP discusses the whole not-having-to-slow-to-a-walk thing. I was trying to avoid the interval-ish type of running that I'd done in the past, for fear that it might not be the best idea. Then again, c25k suggests the interval approach for the first several weeks. HOW DO I EVER RECONCILE THIS INCREDIBLE DISCREPANCY?!!?!

/so confused....::cries::

Well, I'm not sure why you're never supposed to slow to a walk. I know I did quite a few times when I first started running, and its seems that it what got me over the initial hump. Someone more experienced than me will have to clarify that for you. I'm going off my experience.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#187
On October 19 2011 02:21 beberly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 02:15 Sm3agol wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.


I guess my concern is that I can easily run in bursts, walk for a bit, then run some more. After the mile, I walked for a bit and felt like I could have started running some more (it may have only been .3-.4 mi. running intervals, but I could have pushed out more), but the OP discusses the whole not-having-to-slow-to-a-walk thing. I was trying to avoid the interval-ish type of running that I'd done in the past, for fear that it might not be the best idea. Then again, c25k suggests the interval approach for the first several weeks. HOW DO I EVER RECONCILE THIS INCREDIBLE DISCREPANCY?!!?!

/so confused....::cries::


Good for you dude! Remember to always be cautious and run less than you are actually capable of. Build up very slowly in time/distance. You are a smart man to want to learn good form right from the start.

Overweight people have to address the concern of overstressing their bodies from running. If you are carrying extra weight it will make it that much tougher on your ankles, shins, and knees. If you're looking to lose weight EAT LIKE A CHAMP.

I think if you have a hard time running short distances you should be running intervals. The intervals are not fast. Just do something like 2 minutes jog, 2 minutes walk a few times and repeat a few times. Gradually lengthen the run time and then decrease the walk time. Vary up the times to keep things interesting when you're able.

Check these out:



To get good form it takes practice. Don't overwhelm yourself trying to do everything perfect right off the bat. Focus on 1 or 2 things at a time. Once you get those down, focus on 1 or 2 more. Think about form constantly when you are running until it becomes natural and you do it without thinking about it.

Thinking about form is also a good tool you can use to keep you in the moment and thinking positive when you're running and very tired. Start at your feet and ask yourself if your feet are doing what they are supposed to. Then ask if your ankles are doing what they should. Work your way all the way up your body until your head.

Notes about good form:

-Watch videos of elite distance runners and try to emulate them.

-I believe having a midfoot or forefoot strike is better than a heel strike. This is my opinion and know that there is still debate on this topic.

-Most new runners do not have a fast enough turnover. This means they are not moving their legs fast enough and maybe overstriding. You should be taking about 3 strides ever second for optimal efficiency. Count how many times one of your feet hit the ground ever second and try to adjust to 3.

-The longer your foot stays on the ground the more momentum you lose (hence why I think heel striking is bad). As soon as one of your feet hit the ground make a conscience effort to pick it right back up. Make inertia your bitch.

-Consider doing core work.

-Try to watch yourself run in a mirror, tape yourself, or have someone else watch you. Sometimes what you think you look like is not what you really look like.

-Stay relaxed and never tense up.


I hope this helps. Remember to not get overwhelmed and most importantly to find what you enjoy about running. Make sure you find ways to like it or it will be a tough road. The things are there you just have to try things out and have a positive mindset. Keep us updated how you are doing and feel free to post any new questions that arise.
beberly
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:40:04
October 18 2011 18:58 GMT
#188
On October 19 2011 03:09 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 02:21 beberly wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:15 Sm3agol wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.


I guess my concern is that I can easily run in bursts, walk for a bit, then run some more. After the mile, I walked for a bit and felt like I could have started running some more (it may have only been .3-.4 mi. running intervals, but I could have pushed out more), but the OP discusses the whole not-having-to-slow-to-a-walk thing. I was trying to avoid the interval-ish type of running that I'd done in the past, for fear that it might not be the best idea. Then again, c25k suggests the interval approach for the first several weeks. HOW DO I EVER RECONCILE THIS INCREDIBLE DISCREPANCY?!!?!

/so confused....::cries::


Overweight people have to address the concern of overstressing their bodies from running. If you are carrying extra weight it will make it that much tougher on your ankles, shins, and knees. If you're looking to lose weight EAT LIKE A CHAMP.




HUGE thanks! I'm working on losing weight, as well. I lost about 60 lbs. (down to 190ish) during my last year of undergrad through weight training, but then law school destroyed any time I had to go to the gym and shitty eating habits put all the weight back on. Since the beginning of September, I'm down 13 lbs. (not a huge amount, but about 1.5 lbs./wk., which is a rate I'm comfortable with) by actually keeping a food diary and tracking my eating (I use Livestrong, I know some people here use FitDay. Both are GREAT tools for just being aware of how much you eat, and where you're eating tons of empty, nutritionless calories) and consuming a sensible amount of net calories (about 1700/day). I'm completely comfortable eating this way, and I think that this will be a fairly long-term/permanent change.

Hopefully as the weight continues to come off, running will get easier. I'll work on slowly increasing the amount I can run in a single stretch by interval training, since I'm so out of shape. I do enjoy the feeling of running outdoors, it's just a shame that winter in Boston is coming. Hopefully there will be relatively light snowfall and it won't derail my outdoor running completely. I greatly prefer doing it outside to doing it on a treadmill. There are so many great places to run in Boston, I just need to get in shape enough to actually USE them!

I'll check out those videos when I get off work, and hopefully I can glean some pointers to get my form into shape. Definitely don't want to give myself an excuse to quit, and I feel like I would use an injury to do so. I love the support of TL (both here and on Fitocracy!)...I hope I get bitched out if I give it up haha.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 19 2011 01:56 GMT
#189
On October 19 2011 03:58 beberly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:09 AirbladeOrange wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:21 beberly wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:15 Sm3agol wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:03 beberly wrote:
Hey all!

I just started running (literally last night...so I'm a COMPLETE novice). I'm fairly overweight (5'11"/236 lbs), so running isn't really easy for me. That being said, I know people much heavier than I that can run, so it's definitely not a barrier.

Before last night, I don't think I've ever run a mile all in one go. Even at my abysmally slow pace (13:06...here's hoping for gradual improvement), I barely made it without keeling over, so I definitely need to slow it down a little more or run shorter distances (.5 mi. until I can do that without dying) to build my endurance a bit. However, after just my short 1 mi. run, I felt some tightness around my ankle and lower shin. It wasn't too painful, and is gone today, so I don't think it was actually a huge deal. I'm sure there are myriad potential causes, from the benign (insufficient stretching, just generally being a fatty and my body not being used to...well...use) to something that I REALLY need to fix, like terrible, terrible running form. Do you all have any resources you'd recommend that demonstrate or explain proper running form (posture, how I land on my feet, etc.), just so that I can start developing good habits and avoid actual injury?

Congrats! Keep it up.

I'm a pretty newbie runner myself, but I have worked up to 6-7 miles a run in about 5 months. Breaking the initial "how far you can run without dying"(apparently 1 mile for you, for me it was about 2.5) was the hardest part for me. What I did to break it was just keep moving after I simply couldn't run any more. Slow down to a walk, catch your breath. Then run another .5 miles or so. After you do that a couple of times(may be more than a few for you, I was already in decent-ish shape, just not running shape), you won't have to take a break. Then just slowly up the distance, and you'll be running 5 miles in no time. Also, running in general before you "break it" is quite painful and no fun, at least it was for me. Now I love it. So keep it up, and slowly up your distance, don't worry about speed, that will come in time.


I guess my concern is that I can easily run in bursts, walk for a bit, then run some more. After the mile, I walked for a bit and felt like I could have started running some more (it may have only been .3-.4 mi. running intervals, but I could have pushed out more), but the OP discusses the whole not-having-to-slow-to-a-walk thing. I was trying to avoid the interval-ish type of running that I'd done in the past, for fear that it might not be the best idea. Then again, c25k suggests the interval approach for the first several weeks. HOW DO I EVER RECONCILE THIS INCREDIBLE DISCREPANCY?!!?!

/so confused....::cries::


Overweight people have to address the concern of overstressing their bodies from running. If you are carrying extra weight it will make it that much tougher on your ankles, shins, and knees. If you're looking to lose weight EAT LIKE A CHAMP.




HUGE thanks! I'm working on losing weight, as well. I lost about 60 lbs. (down to 190ish) during my last year of undergrad through weight training, but then law school destroyed any time I had to go to the gym and shitty eating habits put all the weight back on. Since the beginning of September, I'm down 13 lbs. (not a huge amount, but about 1.5 lbs./wk., which is a rate I'm comfortable with) by actually keeping a food diary and tracking my eating (I use Livestrong, I know some people here use FitDay. Both are GREAT tools for just being aware of how much you eat, and where you're eating tons of empty, nutritionless calories) and consuming a sensible amount of net calories (about 1700/day). I'm completely comfortable eating this way, and I think that this will be a fairly long-term/permanent change.

Hopefully as the weight continues to come off, running will get easier. I'll work on slowly increasing the amount I can run in a single stretch by interval training, since I'm so out of shape. I do enjoy the feeling of running outdoors, it's just a shame that winter in Boston is coming. Hopefully there will be relatively light snowfall and it won't derail my outdoor running completely. I greatly prefer doing it outside to doing it on a treadmill. There are so many great places to run in Boston, I just need to get in shape enough to actually USE them!

I'll check out those videos when I get off work, and hopefully I can glean some pointers to get my form into shape. Definitely don't want to give myself an excuse to quit, and I feel like I would use an injury to do so. I love the support of TL (both here and on Fitocracy!)...I hope I get bitched out if I give it up haha.


Yea, in your case use the run/walk approach like whats suggested on C25K. I'd still recommend doing 2-3 miles total though each time. Keep the running as easy as you can within reason, if it feels absurdly awkward and slow then feel free to go a bit faster, but try to make it a pace that won't still killing you within a quarter mile. However I'd still play around with like 16:00 pace/mile as running and see if you can get that to feel a little more comfortable, since its just one more weapon in the bag.

It's important to understand the C25K isn't interval training in the classical sense as intervals are meant to be high intensity spouts followed by recovery, whereas C25K is meant to by light jogging alternated with walking to help the body easy into running.
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HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
October 19 2011 02:51 GMT
#190
How do you people deal with chafing? Right now it feels like it is the most limiting factor in how far and often I can run.
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 19 2011 03:25 GMT
#191
On October 19 2011 11:51 HiTeK532 wrote:
How do you people deal with chafing? Right now it feels like it is the most limiting factor in how far and often I can run.


Find out why it's happening. Make sure you're using the right clothing. Use some lube.

This is what I use when I need to.
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meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
October 19 2011 07:24 GMT
#192
On September 21 2011 07:32 L_Master wrote:
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On September 21 2011 07:21 travis wrote:
So I was going to sign up to run a marathon but it costs 60 dollars which is total bullshit. So I am just going to make my own track and run my own marathon by myself, wish me luck.


Almost 105 laps of the track...man I would get bored.

Yea, thats the downside of races, especially the long ones...they just cost alot. 60 dollars is actually a pretty good price for a marathon, which can easily run 90+ (which is just silly).

Best of luck though, its definitely an accomplishment and a good stimulator to do some training.

Use google maps to plot out a path in a nice area mate.
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RHCPgergo
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Hungary345 Posts
October 20 2011 09:41 GMT
#193
Small update: I'm a little ill now, so I can't, or rather don't want to run now. Got to get well first.
Pondo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia283 Posts
October 20 2011 10:51 GMT
#194
Shin splints are driving me crazy. Been resting for a month and a half and I feel like they've only gotten worse in the last couple of weeks. I've been cycling a lot maybe. So frustrating...

Going to see a physio. I really want to get started on that weekly training schedule =/ And I'm planning on doing a watered-down Tyler Streaming Marathon challenge with a mate (24km 24 hours plus the other stuff) in December and thats starting to look unlikely with these shins! SIGH

Anyone have experience with cycling with shin splints you got from running? I thought it was good exercise for someone with my injury?
meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 11:57:03
October 20 2011 11:56 GMT
#195
On October 20 2011 19:51 Pondo wrote:
Shin splints are driving me crazy. Been resting for a month and a half and I feel like they've only gotten worse in the last couple of weeks. I've been cycling a lot maybe. So frustrating...

Going to see a physio. I really want to get started on that weekly training schedule =/ And I'm planning on doing a watered-down Tyler Streaming Marathon challenge with a mate (24km 24 hours plus the other stuff) in December and thats starting to look unlikely with these shins! SIGH

Anyone have experience with cycling with shin splints you got from running? I thought it was good exercise for someone with my injury?

shin splits? you need to strengthen your calves, also if you run your fingers on the inside of your shin bone inbetween the calf muscle/achillies it helps though painful (that's what the physio will do). look into compression pants and do calf lifts daily, I was out for 2-3 weeks with shin splits only, cycling has little to no impact on your body mate, worth doing light training until fully recovered.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 20 2011 13:07 GMT
#196
Finished up my last real workout for this season yesterday (6x600 w/90-120 rest in 2:03, 2:00, 1:59, 2:06, 2:05, 2:05 followed by 5 min rest and then some light 200's in 35-36 w/ full recovery).

Race on Sunday and then race next Saturday. Hopefully sub 18, but we'll see what happens. I won't feel gutted if it doesn't happen but it does that would be pretty cool.

After that two weeks off then into winter base training where I will focus on mileage, AnT work, and more than anything base speed. Really wanna see what I can do to drop the 13.1 and 61.3. Probably one day per week will be devoted to actual sprint type work and I'l be adding some lifting, both for core strength/stability and power exercises to work on the speed aspect. Not going for bulk but just working on speed and explosiveness.
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 21 2011 04:27 GMT
#197
On October 20 2011 19:51 Pondo wrote:
Shin splints are driving me crazy. Been resting for a month and a half and I feel like they've only gotten worse in the last couple of weeks. I've been cycling a lot maybe. So frustrating...

Going to see a physio. I really want to get started on that weekly training schedule =/ And I'm planning on doing a watered-down Tyler Streaming Marathon challenge with a mate (24km 24 hours plus the other stuff) in December and thats starting to look unlikely with these shins! SIGH

Anyone have experience with cycling with shin splints you got from running? I thought it was good exercise for someone with my injury?


Shin splints is a term that really only means that your shins hurt. It is not a diagnosis or even a specific injury. As the other guys said, do calf strengthening exercises. Also think about getting a thera band and using that for calf, shin, and ankle strengthening. If you do get one let me know and I'll show you the exercises.

Cycling should not hurt your shins. Maybe you have another issue that you're unaware of. Try aqua jogging for a very low impact type of cross training. If you want to try that let me know and I'll show you how.

Figure out where they hurt and when they hurt and let me know. Be very specific. Also tell me about the shoes you train in and on the surfaces you train on.
Pondo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia283 Posts
October 21 2011 09:06 GMT
#198
Its become mainly a dull pain. Both shins. It varies but I most often on the outside of my shins for about 10cm in height. I think the sharp pain is down the centre of the shin and the insides occasionally ache but that is less frequent so I'm not 100% sure.

About a month ago it was too painful to run (even 10m). The last test run I went on 5 days ago it was easily plausible to run through but there was definite dull and occasional sharp pain that I didn't have before the injury. I also occasionally get pain just walking around university or cycling.

I run in Brooks Adrenaline Gts 10 on a concrete path and maybe some tar. I know the concrete is bad but thats pretty much all there is to run on.

I could be overreacting but the last unrelated injury I had I under reacted to. So I'm kinda paranoid.
meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
October 21 2011 09:43 GMT
#199
On October 21 2011 18:06 Pondo wrote:
Its become mainly a dull pain. Both shins. It varies but I most often on the outside of my shins for about 10cm in height. I think the sharp pain is down the centre of the shin and the insides occasionally ache but that is less frequent so I'm not 100% sure.

About a month ago it was too painful to run (even 10m). The last test run I went on 5 days ago it was easily plausible to run through but there was definite dull and occasional sharp pain that I didn't have before the injury. I also occasionally get pain just walking around university or cycling.

I run in Brooks Adrenaline Gts 10 on a concrete path and maybe some tar. I know the concrete is bad but thats pretty much all there is to run on.

I could be overreacting but the last unrelated injury I had I under reacted to. So I'm kinda paranoid.

see a trusted GP first (cheaper) before seeing a physio (unless for free ), but it took me 2-3 weeks of doing nothing basically to recover, usually occurs when you've increased your cardio training (training 2x per week (soccer 2hrs each time) with indoor inbetween as the added cardio (indoor is far more intense than outfield).

My pain was halfway down from the knee but just on the insides of my shins, it could be a stress fracture though (unlikely).
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 21 2011 17:57 GMT
#200
On October 21 2011 18:06 Pondo wrote:
Its become mainly a dull pain. Both shins. It varies but I most often on the outside of my shins for about 10cm in height. I think the sharp pain is down the centre of the shin and the insides occasionally ache but that is less frequent so I'm not 100% sure.

About a month ago it was too painful to run (even 10m). The last test run I went on 5 days ago it was easily plausible to run through but there was definite dull and occasional sharp pain that I didn't have before the injury. I also occasionally get pain just walking around university or cycling.

I run in Brooks Adrenaline Gts 10 on a concrete path and maybe some tar. I know the concrete is bad but thats pretty much all there is to run on.

I could be overreacting but the last unrelated injury I had I under reacted to. So I'm kinda paranoid.


If you can see a doctor who knows about sports or a physical therapist I think you should do so.

Do your shins hurt when you wake up and first get out of bed in the morning?

If there is pain on the outside of the shin is it not on the bone? Pain on the bone in this case is the most serious. Also, the more localized the pain is the worse it has become.
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