General nutrition recommendations - Page 79

On March 13 2014 00:46 decafchicken wrote:


Check reviews online. I usually try to find a good deal around ~5-6$ a pound of something decent quality. Three things to look for are how much of it is actually protein (and quality of said protein), how it tastes, and how it mixes. I like optimum nutrition gold.

On March 13 2014 01:55 Topin wrote:

what flavor should i get, or what flavor i should never buy ?

On March 13 2014 01:55 Topin wrote:

what flavor should i get, or what flavor i should never buy ?

Prolonged strenuous exercise performed on a regular basis may also result in increased losses from the body or in an increased rate of turnover, resulting in the need for an increased dietary intake. An increased food intake to meet energy requirements will increase dietary micronutrient intake, but athletes in hard training may need to pay particular attention to their intake of iron, calcium and the antioxidant vitamins.

The available data suggest that micronutrient requirements are increased in physically active people because of increased losses through sweat, urine and faeces, and an increased need for defence against free radicals. However the evidence is controversial, and it is not possible to make any quantitative estimations. Micronutrient requirements in moderately active people are not likely to be very much above the levels recommended for the general population.

On May 30 2014 22:51 Redox wrote:
Man I would really like to eat like the OP recommends, but it is just to expensive. The meat alone would cost me like 6 € per day (800 g meat, 190g protein). That is already about as much as I spend for food overall now.

The standard protein powder recommend here I have seen going for 24 € / kg which would be 30 € / kg protein. Assuming I eat 200 g protein I end up at 6 € again. I would have thought that protein powder is cheaper than meat per kg of protein, but both seems to be about 30 € / kg protein.

Are my numbers wrong here? What is the cheapest way to eat protein?

On May 30 2014 22:51 Redox wrote:
Man I would really like to eat like the OP recommends, but it is just to expensive. The meat alone would cost me like 6 € per day (800 g meat, 190g protein). That is already about as much as I spend for food overall now.

The standard protein powder recommend here I have seen going for 24 € / kg which would be 30 € / kg protein. Assuming I eat 200 g protein I end up at 6 € again. I would have thought that protein powder is cheaper than meat per kg of protein, but both seems to be about 30 € / kg protein.

Are my numbers wrong here? What is the cheapest way to eat protein?

On June 12 2014 16:13 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


[...] (a lot of protein powders have been exposed lately for this reason) [...]

Don't listen to a lot of the people recommending a lot of protein though as recent studies have shown that your carbohydrate intake is much more important than your protein intake when it comes to building muscle.[...]

On June 12 2014 16:13 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


Protein powder is junk....a lot of them have steroids an chemicals in them that are not good for you (a lot of protein powders have been exposed lately for this reason).

Also, Paleo is a fad diet for sure. If you're looking for more protein I'd get a cheap bag of beans for a $1 and a bag of potatoes which go for around $1.50-$2.00 at most places for a 5 pound bag. You can make a nice meal with a cup or two of beans, corn, tomato sauce, and a potato or two as your base and get in a lot of protein a long with the minerals and vitamins your body needs.

Potatoes, beans, and corn are not only high in protein but also very low fat and high in minerals most people are deficient in such as potassium & magnesium.

Sure, you can buy chicken but 5 piunds of chicken where I live is a good $15-20, high in cholesterol and fat, and more than likely has been fed all kinds of junk. *Organic* chicken is even more expensive.....chicken also contains no nutrients the body needs besides protein......

Don't listen to a lot of the people recommending a lot of protein though as recent studies have shown that your carbohydrate intake is much more important than your protein intake when it comes to building muscle. If you eat a plant based diet (You don't need to completely avoid meet of course.) you'll save a ton of money, feel better, and be much much healthier plus get all of the protein your body needs as well.

The reason why I call the Paleo Diet a fad is because it's slowly dying down and being disproven. Legumes for example have been shown to have much less phytic acid than almonds and practically all foods contain some anti nutrients (anti nutrients nly suck out the nutrition from the food with the anti nutrients and not your body). Also potatoes and other starches are being accepted and even wheat is making it's way into the diet.

Eating plant based is as cheap as hell as well.

I can buy 10 pounds of bananas for $2.50, 5 pounds of poatoes for $1.50, 1 large bag of beans for about $1.25, and frozen vegetables are extremely inexpensive.

Blend in some frozen fruit with almond milk or rice milk and you have an amazing pre workout smoothie that fuels your body with the nutrition and sugar that it needs. It's also a very cheap pre workout drink.

Meals are also very inexpensive. It only costs me around $5 a day to feed myself and I'm getting in more vitamins/minerals/and anti oxidents than 95% + of the population and my shakes taste amazing as well and are cheap.

If you ever have meat cravings I've found beans help with that by a TON.

Also, too much animal protein is hard on the kidneys. Google it if you don't believe me. 200G protein is CRAZY. I probably get in around only 40-50G a day and feel fine and still have a very muscular lower body (calves & quads) and can Dumb Bell curl 50 pounds for 3-5 reps yet I don't workout at all.

On June 12 2014 16:18 zatic wrote:

Given your history of absurd claims on this forum you can't post shit like this without sources. Do that or stop posting here.

On June 12 2014 16:37 Mango wrote:

First part is correct though, around 60% of internet based protein contains traces of forbidden products. Be carefull in what you order online and do some research first.

Second part I would love to see some sources on as well, ridiculous as far as I know.

On June 12 2014 16:30 IgnE wrote:


Where do you come from? Are you like a diet advice cicada?

Can't get big eating beans. Potatoes get you big if you are eating a steak with them.

No evidence that animal protein is hard on normal functioning kidneys.

Pics/video or it didn't happen.

On June 12 2014 17:26 SjPhotoGrapher wrote:


There might not be any evidence that protein is hard on "normal functioning kidneys" but there is also no evidence that eating ice cream and doughnuts is hard on the heart or that smoking pot does not increase your risk of heart disease yet we know that people with high cholesterol or heart problems should avoid those foods and should avoid smoking pot.....

Basically what I'm saying is that there might not be any tests to show the small amount of damage that a ton of protein will do on kidneys over time (not in one shot of course) but there is evidence in people that have even the slightest of kidney problems including those that get kidney stones easily that a diet high in protein will make their kidneys even worse as the gap from slightly bad or bad kidneys to them getting even worse is measurable and noticeable in the person with the bad kidneys.

In the case of someone having healthy kidneys the damage will build up over years just like bad eating in general, this is why most bodybuilders and weightlifters in general have bad kidneys when they hit their 40's....even Rich Piana who looks like a blown up balloon because he is so big recommends staying away from a diet high in protein as he knows it damages the kidneys and he;s been lifting and reading into this stuff before most of us were born.

Google vegan or vegetarian body builders and than try to tell me you can;t get big off of beans or potatoes. Beans have a ton of protein.......1 cup of black beans for example has 42 grams of protein.....I can easily take down 1 cup of beans as a side dish in just 1 meal. If I eat 2 cups of beans in a day I'm looking at 84 grams of protein easily. If I add in starchy potatoes, corn, and other vegetables a long with some nuts I'm looking at around 120-140 grams of protein in a day without even trying.

I also get in all of my Omega 3 as green leafy vegetables, fruits, and even beans have a high Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio in what little fat they do have (around 4 to 12 percent).

On June 12 2014 16:52 zatic wrote:

I don't doubt lots of supplements are crap. That they have "steroids" in them seems a stretch though. And as you say, it's not impossible to just buy the ones that are not crap.