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XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
August 02 2013 04:32 GMT
#2921
Hey guys, I have a quick question.

I've been doing Starting Strength for a month now, and I think it's pretty great. I'm a little concerned about my distribution on my lifts though. Listed below are my current 5RMs @ 140 lb BW.

Bench: 115 lb
Squat: 220 lb
Dead: 220 lb
OHP: 75 lb

I'm just wondering, is there anything to be concerned about that my bench and OHP are so low compared to my squat/dead?

Also, I think my deadlifts are kinda bottlenecked by my grip strength. Are there any exercises that I can do to improve that?
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 02 2013 05:11 GMT
#2922
your bench and ohp aren't low compared to your squat and deadlift. they look pretty normal to me.

grip - maybe try using chalk, if you can get it
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 12:27:59
August 02 2013 12:26 GMT
#2923
If you wanna improve your grip strength, try tying a rope with a handle on it through a light weight plate (maybe 2.5 lbs - 5 lbs) and just winding it over and over again. Or you can get a TRX suspension system or some equivalent to it (I use the Body Press push up rings) and just put both together and do inverted rows. Alternatively, get fat grips for the bar and work at lighter weights while building up your forearm/hand strength.

Another thing you could do is timed "hangs" from a pull up bar. Pull yourself up like you normally would with a chin up or pull up and then hold yourself at the top.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
August 02 2013 14:55 GMT
#2924
On August 02 2013 13:32 XXGeneration wrote:
Hey guys, I have a quick question.

I've been doing Starting Strength for a month now, and I think it's pretty great. I'm a little concerned about my distribution on my lifts though. Listed below are my current 5RMs @ 140 lb BW.

Bench: 115 lb
Squat: 220 lb
Dead: 220 lb
OHP: 75 lb

I'm just wondering, is there anything to be concerned about that my bench and OHP are so low compared to my squat/dead?

Also, I think my deadlifts are kinda bottlenecked by my grip strength. Are there any exercises that I can do to improve that?


Nah man, you're fine. You're only a month in, just ride the slow and steady gains for a few more months.

I wouldn't bother with grip work right now honestly, other than maybe some chin-ups/ pull-ups. I would suggest pulling double overhand for warm-up sets until it starts to slip, then switching to mixed grip. You know, just like this guy + Show Spoiler +
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.

The reason it's slipping is mostly because the bar wants to rotate towards you as you pull up. having one hand in the opposite direction mitigates most of that rotation. So on your deadlift sets go as long as you can until it starts to slip, and then go mixed grip.

Things to remember : Make sure to switch which hand turns over regularly, so you don't start favoring one side. Also, do not bend your arms ever, that's the road to bicep tears.
I deadlift for Aiur
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 16:08:22
August 02 2013 16:06 GMT
#2925
On July 27 2013 23:34 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 01:06 Meow-Meow wrote:
Is there any exercise that doesn't require weights to work on the shoulder muscles?

The ones on the outside of the shoulder, so that the shoulder becomes bigger than the upper arm?

I usually only do pull-ups (~20 is my limit, from a completely hanging position), push-ups and sit-ups.

To build your lateral deltoids you kind of need to do specific resistance training; free resistance overhead pressing does does something but cable/db side raises are still king.


@Meow-Meow

lateral raises and lying (face-down) dumbell side raises (you will need a bench). you can do bent-forward side raises but they blow

you only need light weight (2-5kg) to start out with so can use a £5 dumbell, £5 of weights, or anything else
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XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
August 02 2013 18:15 GMT
#2926
Thanks for all the replies! I'll be sure to look into chalk and maybe doing some of the exercises kindly listed.

When I do power cleans, sometimes my wrists feel a little stretched to borderline pained when I'm catching it on the top position. Is this something to be worried about, or should I assume my wrists will gain flexibility?

On the topic of flexibility, I feel like I'm losing flexibility, especially in my shoulders. Is this normal?
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 02 2013 18:36 GMT
#2927
Probably because you're not maintenancing yourself with all the stress your putting on you body/muscles (So yes normal). Check out mobilitywod.com
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
August 02 2013 18:44 GMT
#2928
Your squat and dead lift are really high for only one month in the program. Well done! As for the wrist issue when doing the clean, make sure your humerus is as close to parallel as you can get it; it might alleviate some wrist pain. Besides that, there are videos on californiastrength.com and mobilitywod.com that can help you, and just executing the clean regularly can also help. Try experimenting with your grip width - you might be surprised how much it can affect your wrist strain.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
August 03 2013 11:28 GMT
#2929
Hi Guys, quick question what split would you recomend and in what order, should legs be last and chest start of the week? Also should shoulders have its own day or should I incorporate it with eithier chest/tricepts or back and biceps? I am doing a lot of compound exercises as I find them far better with my body type(naturally lean) and seem to have far better gains since ive started only focusing on compound(last 1 month) compared to when I was doing isolation exercises(would get a good pump onmy arms but within 24 hours down again ).

4 day week
day 1 Chest Triceps
day 2 Back Bicep
day 3 Abs Core Shoulders
day 4 Legs

3day week

day 1 Chest Triceps
day 2 Back Bicep Shoulders
day 3 Abs/Core Legs

is what im doing currently over a week normally with rest days in between! I just dont feel like I have enoguh time working my shoulders after a normal chest/tricep or back and bicep as the is so amny differnt areas of the back to work and trying to hit both top and bottom of chest..
Live and Let Die!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
August 03 2013 21:33 GMT
#2930
when i start my Deadlift set i feel kinda dizzy, it only happens in DL ... dunno why T_T
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
August 03 2013 23:33 GMT
#2931
How do you improve your pushups? I've been stuck at 10 being my max for weeks lol

I think pushups are one of those exercises that are best improved by doing more of them, but I've done a fair number now and don't see any improvement. Separately I'm benching, and also doing one or two of those machines which have similar motions to pushups.
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 04 2013 00:04 GMT
#2932
On August 04 2013 08:33 micronesia wrote:
How do you improve your pushups? I've been stuck at 10 being my max for weeks lol

I think pushups are one of those exercises that are best improved by doing more of them, but I've done a fair number now and don't see any improvement. Separately I'm benching, and also doing one or two of those machines which have similar motions to pushups.

How much can you bench? I think that having strong front delts, pecs, triceps and abs should just allow you to do more pushups. I never practice them except when I'm drunk and having a bro-down and can do around 30 with very strict form, but I can bench 265. How much do you weigh and how much do you bench/add on bodyweight dips? Just get strong imo and it'll come.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 04 2013 00:06 GMT
#2933
On August 03 2013 20:28 Tommylew wrote:
Hi Guys, quick question what split would you recomend and in what order, should legs be last and chest start of the week? Also should shoulders have its own day or should I incorporate it with eithier chest/tricepts or back and biceps? I am doing a lot of compound exercises as I find them far better with my body type(naturally lean) and seem to have far better gains since ive started only focusing on compound(last 1 month) compared to when I was doing isolation exercises(would get a good pump onmy arms but within 24 hours down again ).

4 day week
day 1 Chest Triceps
day 2 Back Bicep
day 3 Abs Core Shoulders
day 4 Legs

3day week

day 1 Chest Triceps
day 2 Back Bicep Shoulders
day 3 Abs/Core Legs

is what im doing currently over a week normally with rest days in between! I just dont feel like I have enoguh time working my shoulders after a normal chest/tricep or back and bicep as the is so amny differnt areas of the back to work and trying to hit both top and bottom of chest..

I do:
mo: chest/back/shoulders/arms
tu: legs
wed: off
thurs:chest/tris
fri: back/bis
sat: shoulders abs

Works great for me.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
August 04 2013 00:06 GMT
#2934
On August 04 2013 09:04 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 08:33 micronesia wrote:
How do you improve your pushups? I've been stuck at 10 being my max for weeks lol

I think pushups are one of those exercises that are best improved by doing more of them, but I've done a fair number now and don't see any improvement. Separately I'm benching, and also doing one or two of those machines which have similar motions to pushups.

How much can you bench? I think that having strong front delts, pecs, triceps and abs should just allow you to do more pushups. I never practice them except when I'm drunk and having a bro-down and can do around 30 with very strict form, but I can bench 265. How much do you weigh and how much do you bench/add on bodyweight dips? Just get strong imo and it'll come.

My bench is low, but increasing, even though my pushups are not! Last time I did a couple of sets of 8 reps of 85 pounds. I basically bump it up 5 pounds every week or so. I currently weigh ~174 pounds, and I think I'm roughly 14% body fat.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 04 2013 03:08 GMT
#2935
On August 04 2013 06:33 Topin wrote:
when i start my Deadlift set i feel kinda dizzy, it only happens in DL ... dunno why T_T


Are you breathing right?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 04 2013 04:13 GMT
#2936
On August 04 2013 09:06 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 09:04 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On August 04 2013 08:33 micronesia wrote:
How do you improve your pushups? I've been stuck at 10 being my max for weeks lol

I think pushups are one of those exercises that are best improved by doing more of them, but I've done a fair number now and don't see any improvement. Separately I'm benching, and also doing one or two of those machines which have similar motions to pushups.

How much can you bench? I think that having strong front delts, pecs, triceps and abs should just allow you to do more pushups. I never practice them except when I'm drunk and having a bro-down and can do around 30 with very strict form, but I can bench 265. How much do you weigh and how much do you bench/add on bodyweight dips? Just get strong imo and it'll come.

My bench is low, but increasing, even though my pushups are not! Last time I did a couple of sets of 8 reps of 85 pounds. I basically bump it up 5 pounds every week or so. I currently weigh ~174 pounds, and I think I'm roughly 14% body fat.

i think you'll see improvements if you just keep at it. it's hard to tell how many pushups you can actually do because you're actively doing pushups and benching. if you don't work out for 4 days in a row, and then see how many pushups you can do, it should be a higher number.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
August 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#2937
On August 04 2013 12:08 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 06:33 Topin wrote:
when i start my Deadlift set i feel kinda dizzy, it only happens in DL ... dunno why T_T


Are you breathing right?


i breath before lifting... not a big breath, a normal one. maybe i should rest more between DL and OHP
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#2938
Could maybe "grease the groove" with your push-ups? Basically you just do a set whenever you think about it a couple times a day.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
August 05 2013 04:06 GMT
#2939
Hey guys, one last question (sorry for all these newbie questions).

After I started working out, my shoulders started clicking a lot when I move them normally. I don't feel any pain, but sometimes they feel a little weird near the edge of my ROM. Is this because of some muscle imbalance or because I'm not stretching enough or a combination of the two? It's just really weird to do push-ups and hear consistent clicking.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 05 2013 07:08 GMT
#2940
You got shitty rotor cuffs welcome to the club. *cries*
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