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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1941
On February 25 2011 09:30 phyre112 wrote:
Milk is your best friend


eww gross thats like a gay cow just came in my mouth
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 25 2011 04:02 GMT
#1942
Just tried that backwards egg + bacon deal. Never again. Never. Again.
XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
February 25 2011 04:25 GMT
#1943
Hey guys,

Im thinking of switching to SS tomorrow. Ive been basicly working out splitting body parts, multiple exercices per part. The results are okay... but not more.

The thing is that I dont want to get huge, I wanna get stronger for sure, have more muscle mass, but I dont want to bulk like crazy.

What would you recommand? doing the program as is, and not eating more than usual? would i fail getting stronger every workout without eating more than usual?

Thanks!
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
February 25 2011 04:49 GMT
#1944
It's not like you get big overnight, I say bulk hard then just go to maintenance once you're satisfied
u gotta sk8
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 25 2011 05:01 GMT
#1945
On February 25 2011 13:49 nataziel wrote:
It's not like you get big overnight, I say bulk hard then just go to maintenance once you're satisfied


This. You'll make the fastest progress with how much you can lift on a calorie surplus, even if that will put fat on you as well. Once you make it to a point you're "happy" with, you cut off the fat and (hopefully) take minimal losses in muscle. I would consider that the easy part, but I've always been that dude who forgets to eat (or more recently, who's too lazy to cook anything). Alternatively, you could eat just a little more than you are now, (say an extra two pints of whole milk? - 600 cals?) make slower progress in how much you lift, but not need to go through the "cut" at the end. Whichever fits your lifestyle I guess.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 25 2011 05:15 GMT
#1946
On February 25 2011 08:52 decafchicken wrote:
Ate 2 chipotle burritos...it was buy one get one free and i can't turn down such a tasty challenge Looking like a two meal day with a snack later (breakfast was like 1/3 pound ground beef 3 eggs scrambled :D )

@eshlow...i've narrowed it down to an accute pain across the middle of my shoulder blade, most notably felt as i bring the bar in front of me during a snatch (was just doing the bar, no weight) and during the "Y" in the shoulder circuit. Any idea what this means?


Whoops missed that.

Likely infraspinatus? based on location?

Tennis/lacrosse ball it
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 09:40:57
February 25 2011 05:32 GMT
#1947
On February 25 2011 13:02 phyre112 wrote:
Just tried that backwards egg + bacon deal. Never again. Never. Again.


Fail. And how does your bacon cook in 1 minute? mine takes a good 5-10 minutes (including pan warm up time) then once i flip it i just pour the eggs over the bacon/fat and then flip it and boom perfect ommelette, throw on some franks red hot, cheese, and a big glass of whole milk :D

And i'll start rolling it and keep doing dislocations, thanks eshlow. Hopefully this clears up soon.

edit: holy shit just rolled my the hell out of my infrawhatchamacallit rotator cuff muscle with a tennis ball and i feel phenomenal. this is roughly how could i feel after sex. although the tennis ball rolling process was signifacantly more painful ^_^ Found out my upper traps are sore as all hell too...tennis ball round two!

Eshlow, my mom has one of those trigger point shocker thingies, should i try that out next time im home? Im seeing a lot of stuff about trigger points as i ready about infraspinatus.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
February 25 2011 05:56 GMT
#1948
On February 25 2011 10:58 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 04:48 Slithe wrote:
Eshlow, I saw the orthopedist about my back pain (it's gone now) and he doesn't think it's anything like spondylolysis. He just recommended conservative treatment and also told me to not hyperextend my back beyond a certain angle because of the unfavorable load it puts on the spine.

However, I see that gymnasts are doing these back bridges and other crazy business with their backs. Is there any way to ease into it so that I can do these exercises, or should I just forgo it in favor of other back strengthening exercises?



It depends on what he thinks it is... did he give you a diagnosis?

You can try some hyperextension through something like seal stretch (google images first image) and see if that helps or hurts and then go from there?


No diagnosis. There's no pain when I do the seal stretch. I guess I'll just do conservative back exercises for a while.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 25 2011 09:42 GMT
#1949
Had a pizza, 16 beers and 5 pieces of KFC chicken last night.

Fuck you, I'm bulking.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 25 2011 10:48 GMT
#1950
On February 25 2011 13:02 phyre112 wrote:
Just tried that backwards egg + bacon deal. Never again. Never. Again.


I'm assuming you didn't drain the pan after you did the bacon...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5461 Posts
February 25 2011 11:42 GMT
#1951
On February 25 2011 19:48 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:02 phyre112 wrote:
Just tried that backwards egg + bacon deal. Never again. Never. Again.


I'm assuming you didn't drain the pan after you did the bacon...


Drain most of the pan but leave some grease in. There will be zero egg stickage in the pan which is nice. ^^ Fucking hate cleaning stuck eggs on a pan. ㅜㅜ
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 12:57:07
February 25 2011 12:56 GMT
#1952
it's almost the end of february and this thread is going 100 pages already.

Is this the year when we all get to meet each other in december, and drink our gains away with beer, pizza and milk :D?

Yay!

My pinky feels a whole lot better. I might be able to do 68kg PowerClean :D.

Yay! :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 25 2011 13:17 GMT
#1953
That's exactly what I did, drained almost everything from the pan. Eggs were still all greasy, could barely finish them. Decaf, bacon cooks so fast because the pan is already hot from eggs. I will admit the eggs cook much faster this way though.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 25 2011 15:35 GMT
#1954
On February 25 2011 14:32 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:02 phyre112 wrote:
Just tried that backwards egg + bacon deal. Never again. Never. Again.


Fail. And how does your bacon cook in 1 minute? mine takes a good 5-10 minutes (including pan warm up time) then once i flip it i just pour the eggs over the bacon/fat and then flip it and boom perfect ommelette, throw on some franks red hot, cheese, and a big glass of whole milk :D

And i'll start rolling it and keep doing dislocations, thanks eshlow. Hopefully this clears up soon.

edit: holy shit just rolled my the hell out of my infrawhatchamacallit rotator cuff muscle with a tennis ball and i feel phenomenal. this is roughly how could i feel after sex. although the tennis ball rolling process was signifacantly more painful ^_^ Found out my upper traps are sore as all hell too...tennis ball round two!

Eshlow, my mom has one of those trigger point shocker thingies, should i try that out next time im home? Im seeing a lot of stuff about trigger points as i ready about infraspinatus.


Yeah, that can work well

On February 25 2011 14:56 Slithe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 10:58 eshlow wrote:
On February 25 2011 04:48 Slithe wrote:
Eshlow, I saw the orthopedist about my back pain (it's gone now) and he doesn't think it's anything like spondylolysis. He just recommended conservative treatment and also told me to not hyperextend my back beyond a certain angle because of the unfavorable load it puts on the spine.

However, I see that gymnasts are doing these back bridges and other crazy business with their backs. Is there any way to ease into it so that I can do these exercises, or should I just forgo it in favor of other back strengthening exercises?



It depends on what he thinks it is... did he give you a diagnosis?

You can try some hyperextension through something like seal stretch (google images first image) and see if that helps or hurts and then go from there?


No diagnosis. There's no pain when I do the seal stretch. I guess I'll just do conservative back exercises for a while.


Work on non-painful mobility for a week then see how you feel with some exercise

Anything non-painful really is fine to do ifyou wanted to run or something and it doesnt hurt. Same with exercises
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 17:22:52
February 25 2011 17:11 GMT
#1955
On February 25 2011 13:25 Rutluv wrote:
Hey guys,

Im thinking of switching to SS tomorrow. Ive been basicly working out splitting body parts, multiple exercices per part. The results are okay... but not more.

The thing is that I dont want to get huge, I wanna get stronger for sure, have more muscle mass, but I dont want to bulk like crazy.

What would you recommand? doing the program as is, and not eating more than usual? would i fail getting stronger every workout without eating more than usual?

Thanks!


here's my humble opinion on split routines (and i'm probably not alone on this): until you hit some serious numbers in key compound exercises (squat, deadlift, benchpress, maybe overhead press and power clean), split routines are a waste of time (unless you take steroids or are a genetically superior human being!). you will gain more strength, muscle and definition with a program like SS
so yes, definitely start doing compound lifts, just eat at maintenance levels and accept the fact that you will not progress but instead lose fat.

On February 25 2011 21:56 funkie wrote:
it's almost the end of february and this thread is going 100 pages already.


its because we are awesome!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
February 25 2011 17:30 GMT
#1956
On February 25 2011 07:09 Sinep wrote:
I hope you're not chewing on those plastic fish oil capsules Avocado, those are meant to be swallowed :D
either way, suck it up. it's good for you.
builds character and such


I just throw my pills on my dish and I coincidently hid it beneath the tasty chicken
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
February 25 2011 17:43 GMT
#1957
eshlow i'm having some recurring ac joint problems (right side)...it feels fine when i do pressing movements, but there's pain a few hours after when i mimic front raises and when i swing it to the left (from the front raise position).

any ideas as to what's causing the pain?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 25 2011 18:18 GMT
#1958

Injuries to the AC joint are usually caused by a direct blow to the shoulder. Traumatic contact from the side or from above the shoulder can tear the AC ligaments. Hockey players and football players commonly injure this joint when they make contact with the boards, ground or an opponent with their shoulder striking first.

Injuries to the AC joint can also be caused by overstressing the joint with heavy weightlifting (i.e. deep bench-press techniques). This mechanism of injury is rare.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 23:25:29
February 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#1959
Doing chinups today, slammed my knee onto one of the crossbars of the stand. Whole bodyweight onto a corner, caught me right under the kneecap. Could barely walk to the bus stop, then back to my apartment. Didn't manage to get powercleans in today, but I still did squats so I'll take it. Elevating it now, using a bag of snow to ice it, as the snow packs very nicely into shape around the entire knee. I own three different knee braces of varying size already, so compression shouldn't be a problem. Just need the rest, and hopefully I'll be good to lift on it by sunday, but I'm not afraid to take an extra day off and make sure it's better. No stranger to knee injuries.

Still sore from the last set of squats, moved up 10 pounds and continued the 5x5 full squats. Amazing feeling.

I've become much better at eating since I started lifting too =p. Just ordered takeout, since standing to cook is rather uncomfortable. Went for a pound of boneless wings and some sweet potato fries (~2/3 of a pound). Last year, when I would order this it would last me two or even three meals. I've just eaten the whole thing in one sitting. Fuck yeah, gonna get huuuuuge.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 25 2011 23:42 GMT
#1960
On February 26 2011 02:43 unknown.sam wrote:
eshlow i'm having some recurring ac joint problems (right side)...it feels fine when i do pressing movements, but there's pain a few hours after when i mimic front raises and when i swing it to the left (from the front raise position).

any ideas as to what's causing the pain?


Under the AC joint or in/on the bone of the AC joint?

Under teh AC joint you got your supraspinatus which is aggravated ratehr easily with some movements

Like said above if its the AC joint itself usually you've had an impact injury in the past or present becaues it's held together by ligaments. So unless you've torn them you usually shouldn't have issues on the bone there.
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