On April 29 2011 13:37 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: I've had it: I'm looking for a new gym.
I'm doing my warmups today for O-lifts and dropping the bumper plates on a surface meant for bumper plates to be dropped on. A staff member walks up, stares at me for a good 5 seconds, and then points at the barbell and makes a big "X" symbol with his forearms.
I respond with "What?" and he goes "NO GOOD" (in Japanese, with an exaggerated gesture). Me: "I'm not a dog. Talk normally." Dumbass: "It's dangerous to do that" Me: "What's dangerous? I'm lifting in a secluded part of the gym." Dumbass: "Other people may be surprised at the sound" Me: "And how about me? Dropping the weights is easier on my shoulder and it helps prevent an injury. Dumbass: "Well ... other people are in this weight room too."
Fine. I'll risk my safety so the old ladies sitting on the bench press seat can continue their obnoxious conversation about dancing. I'll ignore the fact that a weight room is an environment where weights get dropped, thrown, and people grunt loudly all the time. Yeah, fuck you, Konami Sports Gym. Some idiot puts every single 25, 20, and 15kg plate in the gym on the bar and stares at it? Nobody says a word. People sit on the bench press having conversations so other people can't use it? Nobody cares. I drop a 50kg barbell with bumper plates on a padded surface? Everyone freaks the fuck out and a person who was in a completely different part of the gym apparently complained.
I'm researching weightlifting clubs, and I'm not sure if I can join one or not. A university in my area apparently has a weightlifting facility with a fairly strong looking club, but I don't know if I can get in. A staff member at my gym is into Olympic lifting, and I'd ask him, but that would put him in an awkward position considering his job and all.
Sometimes I get seriously tired of this country.
And considering like 99% of the asian people in my area want to move to japan >.>
Although it sounds very japanese
Let me guess, do all those people watch anime and like to eat sushi?
On April 29 2011 15:00 thedeadhaji wrote: well Rosa, Konami is a POS gym so better to GTFO sooner rather than later. Take it as a blessing in disguise.
I'd honestly just talk to the Oly lifting staff guy at the gym. It's not going to cause him any problem at all even if he refers you elsewhere - your needs simply don't match what the gym can provide. It's pretty standard for stores in Japan to properly refer you to other places. My parents were at the information booth at one of those big department stores in Ginza and asked for directions to Uniqlo LOL!!
Oh yea that reminds me, the Konami I was at for a few months didn't even have a barbell. Try beating that!
>Frodac Those people have never actually lived and worked in Japan.
Yeah, I guess I'll just ask him.
I called that university and apparently the boss guy wasn't there today, so I'll call again tomorrow for more information.
Gah it's almost 3 and I won't be home till 4 am due to some idiocy. I'm just wondering if it's better to go to the gym tommorow with like 4 hours of sleep (only time I can go tommorow) or just skip tommorow and go on Saturday. I've been a little cautious since injuring my knee. I resetted my squats and only now am I headed where I was 2 weeks ago. Even if I postpone till sat I'll have to do 4 nonconsecitive days of lifts. Kinda damned if you do damned if you don't sorta thing.
@Rosa: that really sucks but I gotta admit I'm impressed that a commercial gym there even has bumper plates and oly pads. Been to like 6 within my area and they all have the same freaking equipment with no bumPer plates or designated area for Olympic lifts. The pos I go to called wynn is a 10 million dollar facility but I had to bring in my own 2.5 pound plates cause they had none. @_@
i wouldnt go on 4 hours sleep unless i felt refreshed and was going to gym straight away. woke up after FIVE hours again last night (about the 12th time in 17 days?), but this time managed to go back for another 3
i wondering if anyone here is a tobacco smoker? i think ive been smoking a LOT more since starting gym, and i think it made me feel totally ill from nicotine overdose the other day. is this something youve experienced? it felt like the hangover from xtc or cough syrup, my teeth kept clenching and i almost vomited throughout the day. im wondering how it would affect my training and the way i feel if i were to stop smoking. has anyone here done that? (quit smoking whilst training and felt different from it) this may have been asked before, havent had time to read this whole thread yet obv i know i have to quit sometime, i need to build up to it tho
Been doing crossfit at my gym (bootcamp ish type of training). How sore should I be the day after? Last time I was pretty sore, especially in my chest and triceps (we did push ups/situps/burpees/shoulder dips 10 20 30 40 30 20 10). The day after I could kiiiiiiiinda go with the kickboxing training though.
Should I really be sore for like a full week after this? Is being able to do any number of correct push ups the next day a sign of lack of perseverance in my training? Thanks in advance.
On April 29 2011 21:08 BouBou.865 wrote: Hi guys, quick question.
Been doing crossfit at my gym (bootcamp ish type of training). How sore should I be the day after? Last time I was pretty sore, especially in my chest and triceps (we did push ups/situps/burpees/shoulder dips 10 20 30 40 30 20 10). The day after I could kiiiiiiiinda go with the kickboxing training though.
Should I really be sore for like a full week after this? Is being able to do any number of correct push ups the next day a sign of lack of perseverance in my training? Thanks in advance.
It doesn't matter if you're sore or not, as long as you know the difference between soreness and pain. Although being sore for a full week because of one workout could be a lack of proper nutrition/rest.
Being able to do pushups isn't a problem, although it's probably not a good idea to do a ton of pushups on off days or something if you want to up your bench numbers. The only times where I haven't been able to do any pushups were last year on chest days where I'd do a million chest exercises and then like 20 sets of pushups between abs so by the end it was hard. But even like an hour afterwards it wouldn't be an issue. After a certain relative strength threshold, a pushup just isn't difficult anymore, it's not like chinups/pullups where you are lifting your bodyweight.
There's no barbells in our training haha. Like 90% of the exercises are body weight only. My question is: If I train on Monday, should I aim to be completely 'repaired' by Wednesday? Or should I aim to be 'repaired' as late as posssible?
@BouBou: You should really check out the crossfit main site, or one of their sister sites, if you're enjoying that type of workout. Calisthenics can only get you so far, and the majority of the HQ prescribed workouts are in fact with weights. And, actually, a majority of the lifts they include are found in SS, and other power/strength lifting programs,
On April 29 2011 21:39 cody1024d wrote: @BouBou: You should really check out the crossfit main site, or one of their sister sites, if you're enjoying that type of workout. Calisthenics can only get you so far, and the majority of the HQ prescribed workouts are in fact with weights. And, actually, a majority of the lifts they include are found in SS, and other power/strength lifting programs,
Okay. Should I be able to work out daily, though, or should I be training on and off?
god I hate you. almost 10 years younger than me and squatting 15kg more than me T_T
j/k great numbers
haha thanks , i've always loved squatting!
On April 29 2011 00:31 eshlow wrote: Any of the intermediate 5x5 programs work very well. Just look at all of them and figure out which has the most bench frequency if that's your goal to get your bench up to 2 plates
Man , I really can't decide , feel like madcow has too little volume ( 1 actual set of work weight?) and texas method has a f*** ton of volume , nearly died the week i tried squatting 265 4x5 + a set of 3plates for 2 reps. Couldn't walk properly for the entire week(reminds me of my early days) . Either way , gonna be trying texas method with light weights for now . Hope it gets my bench up.
On April 29 2011 21:28 BouBou.865 wrote: There's no barbells in our training haha. Like 90% of the exercises are body weight only. My question is: If I train on Monday, should I aim to be completely 'repaired' by Wednesday? Or should I aim to be 'repaired' as late as posssible?
your question doesnt make much sense to me! are you planning on breaking/wrecking your muscles during exercise? soreness should actually not prevent you from exercising if you warm up properly
really, as I stated before, soreness doesnt indicate progress or lack thereof. it really just means that you are working muscles that you havent worked in a while (and should thus not occur after your body has adapted to your workout routine).
@BouBou: Generally, for most crossfit programs, it is 3 days on, then 1 day off, cycles. Or, for the more power lifting intensive versions (such as their related football site) it is 3 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off cycles.
Training everyday can be detrimental to your program, and to your progress as well.
On April 29 2011 20:45 FFGenerations wrote: i wouldnt go on 4 hours sleep unless i felt refreshed and was going to gym straight away. woke up after FIVE hours again last night (about the 12th time in 17 days?), but this time managed to go back for another 3
i wondering if anyone here is a tobacco smoker? i think ive been smoking a LOT more since starting gym, and i think it made me feel totally ill from nicotine overdose the other day. is this something youve experienced? it felt like the hangover from xtc or cough syrup, my teeth kept clenching and i almost vomited throughout the day. im wondering how it would affect my training and the way i feel if i were to stop smoking. has anyone here done that? (quit smoking whilst training and felt different from it) this may have been asked before, havent had time to read this whole thread yet obv i know i have to quit sometime, i need to build up to it tho
Just quit smoking. It will improve your health and training a lot (but you will feel like crap as you go through withdraw)
On April 29 2011 21:08 BouBou.865 wrote: Hi guys, quick question.
Been doing crossfit at my gym (bootcamp ish type of training). How sore should I be the day after? Last time I was pretty sore, especially in my chest and triceps (we did push ups/situps/burpees/shoulder dips 10 20 30 40 30 20 10). The day after I could kiiiiiiiinda go with the kickboxing training though.
Should I really be sore for like a full week after this? Is being able to do any number of correct push ups the next day a sign of lack of perseverance in my training? Thanks in advance.
Too high volume.
Depending on what your goals are I would suggest you actually just not do CF..... and do heavy lifting instead.
On April 29 2011 00:31 eshlow wrote: Any of the intermediate 5x5 programs work very well. Just look at all of them and figure out which has the most bench frequency if that's your goal to get your bench up to 2 plates
Man , I really can't decide , feel like madcow has too little volume ( 1 actual set of work weight?) and texas method has a f*** ton of volume , nearly died the week i tried squatting 265 4x5 + a set of 3plates for 2 reps. Couldn't walk properly for the entire week(reminds me of my early days) . Either way , gonna be trying texas method with light weights for now . Hope it gets my bench up.
Progression generally goes like this...
SS -> SS Advanced Novice -> Texas Method -> Madcow's -> 5/3/1
Considering your age and testosterone levels, I recommend the Texas Method because your body can take the beating from the Monday workouts. Try eating more following your volume day and see how that works for recovery.
god I hate you. almost 10 years younger than me and squatting 15kg more than me T_T
j/k great numbers
haha thanks , i've always loved squatting!
On April 29 2011 00:31 eshlow wrote: Any of the intermediate 5x5 programs work very well. Just look at all of them and figure out which has the most bench frequency if that's your goal to get your bench up to 2 plates
Man , I really can't decide , feel like madcow has too little volume ( 1 actual set of work weight?) and texas method has a f*** ton of volume , nearly died the week i tried squatting 265 4x5 + a set of 3plates for 2 reps. Couldn't walk properly for the entire week(reminds me of my early days) . Either way , gonna be trying texas method with light weights for now . Hope it gets my bench up.
Progression generally goes like this...
SS -> SS Advanced Novice -> Texas Method -> Madcow's -> 5/3/1
Considering your age and testosterone levels, I recommend the Texas Method because your body can take the beating from the Monday workouts. Try eating more following your volume day and see how that works for recovery.
Hm , ok shall stick to texas method till it stops working . starts next week~!\
edit : I need workout music ! would love if some of you guys shared any good music you listen to during workouts
Super pumped. All week my cousin and I have been browsing craigslist and stuff for extra equipment. He's already got a pretty baller home gym setup in his basement and is looking to add to it. I've got a shitty smith machine (my brother's) in my basement that I've never used plus a bunch of free weights, bars, and an extra bench.
Point is we're pooling our resources and over the weekend hopefully buying a power rack to fit at his house and I just spotted a great deal on a rack/bench combo that I'd pick up in a heartbeat. It also would come with a shorter Olympic bar (like 70" or something) so I could potentially put the rack in my garage instead of my basement. Would be better since my basement is too short to do presses. I've been walking the bar out into my garage and cleaning it into press position up to now. Would be great if I had a rack in my garage as well.
EPT
great numbers
