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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 29 2011 01:36 GMT
#4321
On April 29 2011 10:32 aogmxctm wrote:
OHP stalling is really raging me, i've tried switching it up by doing more isolation DB seated press etc but to no avail

how do you guys break OHP plateaus?


Press more overall

What type of volume are you doing at the moment
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 29 2011 01:37 GMT
#4322
On April 29 2011 09:43 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 09:29 eshlow wrote:
On April 29 2011 09:11 Froadac wrote:
Hmm. Really do need squat rack. And good rack to lift from. My arms are so weak it's harder for me to load the squat than to do it

My legs are reasonable.

Arms are not.

Core is not. But improving all 3 is not a bad thing.

Overall though I'm just confused as to how my lifts are literally 4-5x less than others. I expected 1/2 to 1/3, but meh. Hopefully I get some reasonable gains.


That just means when you get into consistent training your gains will generally last a lot longer.

What do you mean by that?


Your gains will continue for a long time
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 29 2011 01:40 GMT
#4323
On April 29 2011 10:37 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 09:43 Froadac wrote:
On April 29 2011 09:29 eshlow wrote:
On April 29 2011 09:11 Froadac wrote:
Hmm. Really do need squat rack. And good rack to lift from. My arms are so weak it's harder for me to load the squat than to do it

My legs are reasonable.

Arms are not.

Core is not. But improving all 3 is not a bad thing.

Overall though I'm just confused as to how my lifts are literally 4-5x less than others. I expected 1/2 to 1/3, but meh. Hopefully I get some reasonable gains.


That just means when you get into consistent training your gains will generally last a lot longer.

What do you mean by that?


Your gains will continue for a long time

Good to know. Nothing really has happened yet, but I am feeling better even after being so bloated lol.
aogmxctm
Profile Joined September 2010
64 Posts
April 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#4324
[B]On April 29 2011 10:36 eshlow wrote:
Press more overall

What type of volume are you doing at the moment


currently doing 5x5
usually end up failing at around the 3rd rep on the last set
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 02:14:21
April 29 2011 02:13 GMT
#4325
HOLY SHIT, this is the best american junior. I'm on the same team as him, but I never met him before.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
April 29 2011 02:35 GMT
#4326
On April 29 2011 11:13 AoN.DimSum wrote:
HOLY SHIT, this is the best american junior. I'm on the same team as him, but I never met him before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbthwh1B2so&feature=channel_video_title

holy shit that in fucking real. that's like a heavy deadlift for me and then he fucking hang cleans it. and what team?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
April 29 2011 02:36 GMT
#4327
east coast gold, its a really big team made up of a lot of gyms.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
April 29 2011 02:44 GMT
#4328
A fail day for me unfortunately

106.5kg squat fail 5/3/0 <- didn't try for 3rd set, I'm feeling something in my right knee that I might have to deload on squats for. We'll see.
88.6kg bench 3x5 ez
125kg deadlift 1x3. Really need chalk. Will order some tomorrow if possible. Would you guys consider it a legit set if I were to like... wipe my hands/bar between reps?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 29 2011 02:59 GMT
#4329
On April 29 2011 11:13 AoN.DimSum wrote:
HOLY SHIT, this is the best american junior. I'm on the same team as him, but I never met him before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbthwh1B2so&feature=channel_video_title

holy shit, that was incredible
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 29 2011 03:02 GMT
#4330
On April 29 2011 11:10 aogmxctm wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On April 29 2011 10:36 eshlow wrote:
Press more overall

What type of volume are you doing at the moment


currently doing 5x5
usually end up failing at around the 3rd rep on the last set


I meant how much pressing per week as well.

You probably need to be pressing at least 3x a week at some point to make good progress after a certain point

Also, technique may be an issue as well
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Maxwell3
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
April 29 2011 03:06 GMT
#4331
On April 29 2011 10:32 aogmxctm wrote:
OHP stalling is really raging me, i've tried switching it up by doing more isolation DB seated press etc but to no avail

how do you guys break OHP plateaus?

you made this post on the teen BB section, didn't you :S?
I'm in love with a girl named bara bell
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
April 29 2011 03:12 GMT
#4332
Just a quick question about how much weight you add between workouts.

The wiki says "deadlifts can move up 15-20 lbs. per workout, squats 10-15 lbs., with continued steady progress for 3-4 weeks before slowing down to half that rate. Bench presses, presses, and cleans can move up 5-10 lbs. per workout, with progress on these exercises slowing down to 2.5-5 lbs"

I interpret this as you increase the weight of every lift once or twice a week(ABA or BAB), and squat is increased 3 times. Is that the case? It seems that the squat weight would become way above the others.
aogmxctm
Profile Joined September 2010
64 Posts
April 29 2011 03:14 GMT
#4333
On April 29 2011 12:06 Maxwell3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 10:32 aogmxctm wrote:
OHP stalling is really raging me, i've tried switching it up by doing more isolation DB seated press etc but to no avail

how do you guys break OHP plateaus?

you made this post on the teen BB section, didn't you :S?



wut..
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 03:20:28
April 29 2011 03:20 GMT
#4334
Had a really shitty work out today (celebrating roommates 21st...) Just threw around some power cleans and front squats but i was bored and tried out some squat jerks. got up to a 100kg and i fucking loved it. Squat jerking SO much fun. feels weird dropping into it but once i get it in the slot at the bottom and stand up with it was awesome, felt like i was accomplishing way more than a split jerk lol. Going to incorporate a lot more of these, even if i dont switch to it just for fun :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 29 2011 03:54 GMT
#4335
Gah. So much whole milk >.> It's like swimming through a sea of cream and fat.

Not bad, eh?
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
April 29 2011 04:09 GMT
#4336
On April 29 2011 12:12 DimmuKlok wrote:
Just a quick question about how much weight you add between workouts.

The wiki says "deadlifts can move up 15-20 lbs. per workout, squats 10-15 lbs., with continued steady progress for 3-4 weeks before slowing down to half that rate. Bench presses, presses, and cleans can move up 5-10 lbs. per workout, with progress on these exercises slowing down to 2.5-5 lbs"

I interpret this as you increase the weight of every lift once or twice a week(ABA or BAB), and squat is increased 3 times. Is that the case? It seems that the squat weight would become way above the others.


Yes, this is the case. Squat should increase 30 pounds per week until you just cant anymore
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 29 2011 04:12 GMT
#4337
holy shit @ dimsum's video.
==============

Today:

Bench: 175lbs(+5) - 3x5
Bent rows: 135lbs(+35) - 3x5
BW Face Pulls: 10-10-5

and also some shoulder mobility work
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 04:56:16
April 29 2011 04:37 GMT
#4338
I've had it: I'm looking for a new gym.

I'm doing my warmups today for O-lifts and dropping the bumper plates on a surface meant for bumper plates to be dropped on. A staff member walks up, stares at me for a good 5 seconds, and then points at the barbell and makes a big "X" symbol with his forearms.

I respond with "What?" and he goes "NO GOOD" (in Japanese, with an exaggerated gesture).
Me: "I'm not a dog. Talk normally."
Dumbass: "It's dangerous to do that"
Me: "What's dangerous? I'm lifting in a secluded part of the gym."
Dumbass: "Other people may be surprised at the sound"
Me: "And how about me? Dropping the weights is easier on my shoulder and it helps prevent an injury.
Dumbass: "Well ... other people are in this weight room too."

Fine. I'll risk my safety so the old ladies sitting on the bench press seat can continue their obnoxious conversation about dancing. I'll ignore the fact that a weight room is an environment where weights get dropped, thrown, and people grunt loudly all the time. Yeah, fuck you, Konami Sports Gym. Some idiot puts every single 25, 20, and 15kg plate in the gym on the bar and stares at it? Nobody says a word. People sit on the bench press having conversations so other people can't use it? Nobody cares. I drop a 50kg barbell with bumper plates on a padded surface? Everyone freaks the fuck out and a person who was in a completely different part of the gym apparently complained.

I'm researching weightlifting clubs, and I'm not sure if I can join one or not. A university in my area apparently has a weightlifting facility with a fairly strong looking club, but I don't know if I can get in. A staff member at my gym is into Olympic lifting, and I'd ask him, but that would put him in an awkward position considering his job and all.

Sometimes I get seriously tired of this country.

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 29 2011 05:06 GMT
#4339
On April 29 2011 13:37 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I've had it: I'm looking for a new gym.

I'm doing my warmups today for O-lifts and dropping the bumper plates on a surface meant for bumper plates to be dropped on. A staff member walks up, stares at me for a good 5 seconds, and then points at the barbell and makes a big "X" symbol with his forearms.

I respond with "What?" and he goes "NO GOOD" (in Japanese, with an exaggerated gesture).
Me: "I'm not a dog. Talk normally."
Dumbass: "It's dangerous to do that"
Me: "What's dangerous? I'm lifting in a secluded part of the gym."
Dumbass: "Other people may be surprised at the sound"
Me: "And how about me? Dropping the weights is easier on my shoulder and it helps prevent an injury.
Dumbass: "Well ... other people are in this weight room too."

Fine. I'll risk my safety so the old ladies sitting on the bench press seat can continue their obnoxious conversation about dancing. I'll ignore the fact that a weight room is an environment where weights get dropped, thrown, and people grunt loudly all the time. Yeah, fuck you, Konami Sports Gym. Some idiot puts every single 25, 20, and 15kg plate in the gym on the bar and stares at it? Nobody says a word. People sit on the bench press having conversations so other people can't use it? Nobody cares. I drop a 50kg barbell with bumper plates on a padded surface? Everyone freaks the fuck out and a person who was in a completely different part of the gym apparently complained.

I'm researching weightlifting clubs, and I'm not sure if I can join one or not. A university in my area apparently has a weightlifting facility with a fairly strong looking club, but I don't know if I can get in. A staff member at my gym is into Olympic lifting, and I'd ask him, but that would put him in an awkward position considering his job and all.

Sometimes I get seriously tired of this country.


And considering like 99% of the asian people in my area want to move to japan >.>

Although it sounds very japanese
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 29 2011 06:00 GMT
#4340
well Rosa, Konami is a POS gym so better to GTFO sooner rather than later. Take it as a blessing in disguise.

I'd honestly just talk to the Oly lifting staff guy at the gym. It's not going to cause him any problem at all even if he refers you elsewhere - your needs simply don't match what the gym can provide. It's pretty standard for stores in Japan to properly refer you to other places. My parents were at the information booth at one of those big department stores in Ginza and asked for directions to Uniqlo LOL!!

Oh yea that reminds me, the Konami I was at for a few months didn't even have a barbell. Try beating that!

>Frodac
Those people have never actually lived and worked in Japan.
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