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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 22:54:16
January 08 2014 22:46 GMT
#18081
On January 09 2014 06:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On January 09 2014 06:20 Alaric wrote:
Dunno if I even did Eliwood Hard Mode. There's a grind/exploit stuff in the big difficulty levels that I don't like too much. Plus, it means you can't spend 100 turn per mission to maximise the number of S supports you can get in a single play-through to see the endings of most of your favourite characters.
(Canas' ending sucks.)

On January 09 2014 04:48 Crusnik wrote:
Off topic, fuck Astrid, bitch got crited before I could recruit her -.- I know I wont use her, but I dont like characters dying >.>...I felt so dirty playing Shadow Dragon and killing off characters intentionally to recruit certain people just to test them...

You should try Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume.


you just do normal runs to see the supports, S ranking HHM is a dedicated endeavor yo.

And yes Canas' ending sucks ;_;

I don't care about killing the lich in BG2, I just want to see the story and get to know the different characters. But any fight involving mages (or thieves with invisibility potions) is so annoying when I don't feel like min-maxing and try not to sleep 8 hours after the slightest brawl.

You're biased, I'm sure you only like Canas because he can spam Luna! He's still pretty broken, I wonder if with enough boosts and supports we can get him to Luna some characters twice. Luna crit so scurry.
(Can an assassin instakill the final boss?)

Also he technically follows his mother and sons. I think my favourite characters were Matthew, Legault, Canas obv. also Serra, and Erk and some other had several pretty good convos.
I liked how the two thieves drastically changed depending on who they were talking with, but without the obvious "oh look I'm mysterious and hide things about me or my character but I won't hesitate a second to show it through my behaviour and omnipresent pseudo-cryptic references" shtick that gets annoying with stepford smilers/guys with a shady past.

I'm not sure which one lived his path better than the other. Legault seems to have somewhat gotten over it, but maybe he's just better at not showing it/doesn't actually open himself as much as Matthew.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 08 2014 22:50 GMT
#18082
On January 09 2014 07:46 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 06:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 09 2014 06:20 Alaric wrote:
Dunno if I even did Eliwood Hard Mode. There's a grind/exploit stuff in the big difficulty levels that I don't like too much. Plus, it means you can't spend 100 turn per mission to maximise the number of S supports you can get in a single play-through to see the endings of most of your favourite characters.
(Canas' ending sucks.)

On January 09 2014 04:48 Crusnik wrote:
Off topic, fuck Astrid, bitch got crited before I could recruit her -.- I know I wont use her, but I dont like characters dying >.>...I felt so dirty playing Shadow Dragon and killing off characters intentionally to recruit certain people just to test them...

You should try Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume.


you just do normal runs to see the supports, S ranking HHM is a dedicated endeavor yo.

And yes Canas' ending sucks ;_;

I don't care about killing the lich in BG2, I just want to see the story and get to know the different characters. But any fight involving mages (or thieves with invisibility potions) is so annoying when I don't feel like min-maxing and try not to sleep 8 hours after the slightest brawl.

You're biased, I'm sure you only like Canas because he can spam Luna! He's still pretty broken, I wonder if with enough boosts and supports we can get him to Luna some characters twice. Luna crit so scurry.
(Can an assassin instakill the final boss?)


he can luna twice on a lot of heroes easily, and fairly easily against fire dragon. afaik he is the only character in the game who can kill fd in one turn.

no assassin crit doesnt work on fd.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 08 2014 22:53 GMT
#18083
Flexibility is something I've(stupidly) almost completely disregarded since it stopped being something S&C coaches were brow beating me about. I just do some mobility drills as part of my warmups and move along, but I really should be doing more.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 23:06:16
January 08 2014 23:05 GMT
#18084
I don't know how you guys end up getting a good Canas. Mine always end up about as good Roffles motivational speeches. I.E., they're bad.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 23:12:10
January 08 2014 23:10 GMT
#18085
He's got good defensive growth (his starting defense is super good for a mage too, and he's in the upper half of the whole cast in terms of HP) and he gets good power too, although he doesn't always cap it. His skill isn't the best but it usually isn't a problem, the only stats that may be annoying are speed which is pretty low, esp. compared to other mages who are all super fast with lightweight tomes, and luck which doesn't change too much anyway (though Ninian/Nils are hilarious when leveled enough, show off that 80% dodge).

Plus since he's a lovable character on top of that and your only shaman, he levels super fast from being used a bunch, usually.
Toward the end of the game I use Luna to prep promoted units for Ninian to finish off, though, because with basic shit like Flux he's going to attack twice and demolish anyone he comes across (he's got a nice crit rate considering his innate damage, despite not coming close to Lucian or Serra/Priscilla).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 08 2014 23:13 GMT
#18086
On January 09 2014 07:36 Frudgey wrote:
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On January 09 2014 07:27 Crusnik wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:25 MoonBear wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:22 Crusnik wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:05 MoonBear wrote:
On January 09 2014 06:48 Crusnik wrote:
On January 09 2014 06:45 Gahlo wrote:
On January 09 2014 05:49 MoonBear wrote:
On January 08 2014 23:56 Scip wrote:
Eirika route too. I myself played Eirika route only like, once, and Ephraim route twice or thrice. The interesting difference is the + Show Spoiler +
different accounts of what exactly is the relationship between the Demon king and Lyon.

And you got to play both routes to unlock the Super Recruits. Urgh. On the plus side, a main character whose primary weapon is Lances!

Seriously, not enough lance users that aren't mounted.

That and Nephenee is a freaking beast. <3


Nephanee is a weaker Donnel imo, she's so freaking solid of a character, one of my favorites to use in PoR

Donnel looks like an idiot with that pot on his head. Nephenee is a bad-ass though. Plus, a playable Soldier! That's pretty cool.



He looks like an idiot, but his growths are absurdly high, he kills everyone and everything, it moves it will die. He can solo most of the later missions it's so freaking funny lol

True but growths don't mean much with Second Seals and once you start maxing stats you can solo levels with anyone

His insanely high HP/strength/defense make it really easy though, he is the hyper carry of Awakening, shit early game, godly late.

The thing about Donnel though, is that while he has AMAZING growths, he had pretty bad caps, except for luck, which I don't value as highly as the other skills. Because of this, I'd actually say he's one of the weaker characters late game. Using a peasant who wears a pot on his head to stomp a snobby royal is fun however, so Donnel gets points for style.

Also why is there so much Sacred Stones hate? That was one of my favorites in the series.


I guess that's true, I haven't explored the game nearly as much as I should have, I honestly haven't finished it yet, need to do that after I'm done with PoR/RD again probably.

SS is so easy because you can spam tower to get everyone to 20/20 with only minor problems, mostly poison and lack of healing items/staves if you just forget to get them every now and then. Ruins are tougher, and something that I actually haven't bothered to try and do, so I might go and try to beat it one of these days as well
Steam: rook492
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 08 2014 23:21 GMT
#18087
oh man donkey kong country on agdc. i played this so much. i want to be this good so bad lol.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 08 2014 23:29 GMT
#18088
On January 09 2014 07:53 red_ wrote:
Flexibility is something I've(stupidly) almost completely disregarded since it stopped being something S&C coaches were brow beating me about. I just do some mobility drills as part of my warmups and move along, but I really should be doing more.

I'm a tad infatuated with kelly starrett and mobilitywod. Fascinating stuff.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 08 2014 23:45 GMT
#18089
On January 09 2014 07:53 red_ wrote:
Flexibility is something I've(stupidly) almost completely disregarded since it stopped being something S&C coaches were brow beating me about. I just do some mobility drills as part of my warmups and move along, but I really should be doing more.


Duuuuude how? Stretching is one of my favorite feeings ever. I'd do it more if I wasn't a lazy hozer
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 09 2014 00:08 GMT
#18090
On January 09 2014 08:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 07:53 red_ wrote:
Flexibility is something I've(stupidly) almost completely disregarded since it stopped being something S&C coaches were brow beating me about. I just do some mobility drills as part of my warmups and move along, but I really should be doing more.


Duuuuude how? Stretching is one of my favorite feeings ever. I'd do it more if I wasn't a lazy hozer


It just so easy to not care about. I foam/ball roll, do some mobility drills, and then do whatever. When I'm at home I'm never like 'yea a stretch would be really good right now' or 'a yoga class would hit the spot.' I can squat plenty deep, my shoulders and hips feel healthy(I'm sure they could be healthier), so I put it to the side and never really think about it. Basically I only stretch on days when I feel noticeably tight, which obviously happens because I don't stretch regularly.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 09 2014 00:09 GMT
#18091
lol hozer
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 00:43:46
January 09 2014 00:17 GMT
#18092
On January 09 2014 08:05 Frudgey wrote:
I don't know how you guys end up getting a good Canas. Mine always end up about as good Roffles motivational speeches. I.E., they're bad.


luna is probably the most broken spell in the entire game and canas is the easiest way to deal with generals, which tend to be the biggest threat late game

he also happens to be really good against wyvern lords too

toss him your body rings to up his CON and he can get in double attacks with luna fairly easily against the low SPD high POW and DEF units that I just mentioned

this is mainly due to my aversion to most axe users in the game - you just dont have enough good ones to deal with all the lances late game if you don't dip into magic, and canas is probably the best option after pent since half the time priscilla and serra are healing, lucius is waaaaay too fragile, and erk's stats are meh
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 09 2014 00:21 GMT
#18093
What is with this new Chrome shit. Buttons and scroll bars all different it's throwing me off go back to the way it was plz.
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 09 2014 00:28 GMT
#18094
I hate change too grumble grumble grumble
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
January 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#18095
On January 09 2014 09:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 08:05 Frudgey wrote:
I don't know how you guys end up getting a good Canas. Mine always end up about as good Roffles motivational speeches. I.E., they're bad.


luna is probably the most broken spell in the entire game and canas is the easiest way to deal with generals, which tend to be the biggest threat late game

he also happens to be really good against wyvern lords too

toss him your body rings to up his CON and he can get in double attacks with luna fairly easily against the low SPD high POW and DEF units that I just mentioned

this is mainly due to my aversion to most axe users in the game - you just dont have enough good ones to deal with all the lances late game if you don't dip into magic, and canas is probably the best option after pent since half the time priscilla and serra are healing, lucius is waaaaay too fragile, and erk's stats are meh

Yeah that's interesting, because I'm usually okay with axe users. Well, as long as they're not fighters. Not fans of Dorcus or Barte. That being said, my Dart ended up being godly, and Oswin was able to do some serious work once he was a general. And Raven was okay too, but his strength was...

Well lets just say that his strength would have been average if he was a myrmidon. Too bad he was a hero.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 00:45:09
January 09 2014 00:42 GMT
#18096
you usually want to stick oswin with a lance in the middle of a pile of sword users since he can legit 1v10, he's not nearly as efficient with an axe, it's a comparative advantage thing

dart is not a good choice because ocean seal is just too expensive and his skl is way too low to be reliable with axes, dorcas and bartre are obviously garbage, and none of the prepromotes (geitz, hawkeye) are anything spectacular; it is far easier to use a magic heavy team to replace axe users than to rely on axe users in hhm imo imo imo


raven is like the one of the best characters in the game he can normally expect to cap on str somewhere around 14-16, and its 25 cap so its not low at all....he has 55% str growth...also hm boost..

guy in comparison can expect to have around 18 str at 20/20...not even close @_@
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 01:09:07
January 09 2014 01:02 GMT
#18097
Yeah Guy's decent at the beginning, but unless you get him a Wo Dao and a good support he just stops hitting stuff... that's part of the reason why it's so annoying to keep the thiefs late game, too: they both sorely lack strength, while Jaffar has a bunch of it. They've got more speed and skill generally (iirc Legault has the best defensive stats of the three) so I guess you could just get a crit support, give them a cheap weapon to attack twice and hope they crit, but anything that's accurate or with a high defense they really struggle. Matthew's strength growth is so bad. ._.

Sain was the guy for me: he's got good growth and if you look at his stats and versatility on paper he's strong, but... he just never seemed so. I guess cavaliers are simply too "over the place" so in every situation there'll be someone better than them and they'll never shine. Plus, if I want to use a lance and high damage, I'll use Fiora or something (Florina never yielded much results for me, despite reading that she's supposed to have the potential for a powerhouse).

I liked Dart, he gets really powerful with all that strength and these godly amounts of HP if you take the time to level him up, but the lack of accuracy of axe users can be a pain, plus I'm not doing HHM so I guess I have it easy in general (healers probably level up way less for you, since I tend to level up a bit in arenas while waiting for support conversations... do they even get level 20 before the end of the game in HHM?).
Only used Geitz once (had to go a bit out of my way to take his path actually, iirc you need to have your lords low level, meh), he seemed stronger with the bow than the axe. And Hector himself is more of a tank than a heavy-hitter, although it comes within the package.
Erk didn't seem so bad, but I've never leveled him up too high. He's better than Pent, but not a lot of characters can compete with Nino in terms of pure stats growth, and Anima feels like the weakest of the magics, with Light being even more accurate and crit-friendly, while shamans, well... Canas, again.

Do you get bonuses from having a much higher Con than the weight of your tomes/weapons? I recall skill and speed getting maluses if you equip something heavier than your Con, but nothing more, and Canas already has very high Con for a mage.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#18098
random smash hype

"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
January 09 2014 01:15 GMT
#18099
The higher your CON is, the less likely your speed will be impacted, or it will be impacted to a lesser degree, iirc your speed gets lowered by whatever the difference is between your weapon's weight and your CON, if your CON is higher or equal to the weight, you obviously have no negatives.
Steam: rook492
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 01:23:43
January 09 2014 01:17 GMT
#18100
Ya I mean the way Cheep wrote it I thought you got positives if it's sufficienctly higher, but I guess he was only alluding to the very high weight of dark tomes in the game, despite Canas' high Con (they're the heaviest weapons if you look at the end game stuff, iirc, going up to 20).

^ isn't the Smash video just fucking around, and a joke? Can't tell, don't know the game enough. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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