EPTOn May 10 2015 08:26 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone have any general laptop recommendations?
anyone have any general laptop recommendations?
depends on what you need it for.
if it's just for work/not gaming things i'd recommend a thinkpad
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
depends on what you need it for. if it's just for work/not gaming things i'd recommend a thinkpad | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On May 10 2015 08:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: if I wanted to start playing Shaman, should I craft Neptulon or Al'Akir first? If you craft Neptulon, you'll break poor ol' Papa Cixah's heart. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 10 2015 08:23 Prog wrote: It's very entertaining, but I would not use it as a source if I can avoid it. It is highly biased, uncharitable and at some points most scholars would consider his interpretations flat-out wrong. (The Hume parts are probably more or less correct. At least I don't remember any problem there - quite some time since I read it though) Nevertheless, it's not a bad place to start. Especially because it's very accessible. Russell has definitely written better and more interesting stuff though. http://existentialcomics.com/comic/74 On May 10 2015 08:26 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: anyone have any general laptop recommendations? Depends on what you need/want out of a laptop, and what your budget range is, as well as other preferences. On May 10 2015 08:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: if I wanted to start playing Shaman, should I craft Neptulon or Al'Akir first? Hard to say, tbh. Shaman doesn't have that much of a defined decklist, since they're all variants of the same core. Biggest issue is that midrange Shaman has a whole slew of horrible matchups in the meta right now (outside of Control Warrior), and the most popular mech shaman decklists (which has arguably been more successful) dont run either neptulon or al'akir, opting instead for 2 fucking fel reavers (that should give you an indication of how fast a shaman deck needs to be in the current meta). Al'Akir if you want to play a more bursty shaman, but doomhammer can suffice. It is a 3/5 taunt/divine shield, that allows it to 3-1 small minions. OTOH, Neptulon just offers so much in the way of effective card draw, and offers another 7 attk minion that allows you to draw out BGH in control matchups (and allows you to reasonably run Boom+Rag). Card draw is, and remains, one of Shaman's weakest pillars. Aura plays Shaman much more than I do, but I would say...Al'Akir in current meta. Midrange decks are the norm, more or less, and Al'akir can trade reasonably well vs midrange with flametongue or rockbiter. And the extra windfury burst might save you against patron (and is still a 3/5 taunt besides). You still have bad matchups with most of the current popular decks (Patron, Freeze mage is popular, Oil Rogue, Midrange Druid, Huntards), but your best bet is better burst to keep them from OTKing you (combo decks are super popular, unsurprisingly, with Thaurissan). | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On May 10 2015 08:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: if I wanted to start playing Shaman, should I craft Neptulon or Al'Akir first? Al'akir is in most decks, Neptulon is good in aggro. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On May 10 2015 08:57 Lord Tolkien wrote: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/74 Depends on what you need/want out of a laptop, and what your budget range is, as well as other preferences. Hard to say, tbh. Shaman doesn't have that much of a defined decklist, since they're all variants of the same core. Biggest issue is that midrange Shaman has a whole slew of horrible matchups in the meta right now (outside of Control Warrior), and the most popular mech shaman decklists (which has arguably been more successful) dont run either neptulon or al'akir. Al'Akir if you want to play a more bursty shaman, but doomhammer can suffice. It is a 3/5 taunt/divine shield, that allows it to 3-1 small minions. OTOH, Neptulon just offers so much in the way of effective card draw, and offers another 7 attk minion that allows you to draw out BGH in control matchups (and allows you to reasonably run Boom+Rag). Aura plays Shaman much more than I do, but I would say...Al'Akir in current meta. Midrange decks are the norm, more or less, and Al'akir can trade reasonably well vs midrange with flametongue or rockbiter. And the extra windfury burst might save you against patron (and is still a 3/5 taunt besides). pretty funny comic. i realize I keep saying things I don't understand about it I'm not too sure about what I want from a laptop but I want something pretty high end that can play games so If I travel or do an exchange program or something I don't have to try to bring my desktop. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 10 2015 09:04 Cixah wrote: Al'akir is in most decks, Neptulon is good in aggro. I see neither in aggro these days. They both seem pretty midrange but I don't really like/know shaman that well. Only ones I face every now and then are mech shamans which run no legendaries. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 10 2015 08:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: if I wanted to start playing Shaman, should I craft Neptulon or Al'Akir first? Just play mech shaman. Alakir is better for the aggressive meta since it is a key card vs hunter Neptolon is a key card in generally all control MUs. Midrange shaman is imo ok in the meta face funter is slightly unfavoured, mid range is favoured, mech and tempo mage are the worst MUs. Freeze mage is pretty bad too. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 10 2015 09:25 Numy wrote: I see neither in aggro these days. They both seem pretty midrange but I don't really like/know shaman that well. Only ones I face every now and then are mech shamans which run no legendaries. On May 10 2015 09:26 Eppa! wrote: Just play mech shaman. Alakir is better for the aggressive meta since it is a key card vs hunter Neptolon is a key card in generally all control MUs. Midrange shaman is imo ok in the meta face funter is slightly unfavoured, mid range is favoured, mech and tempo mage are the worst MUs. Freeze mage is pretty bad too. You guys are correct, though Shaman is definitely unfavored in the current meta (probably than Priest tbh; Chinese lightbomb Priest is decent in the current meta). Mech shaman is currently the most popular and successful archetype, and it doesn't run either atm, opting instead for fel reavers and maybe Dr. Boom. Neptulon isn't actually good in aggro. It's too slow for aggro, and is definitively better in midrange and anti-control Shaman archetypes, where it's probably a core, along wth Al'Akir, because both are generally value-oriented legendaries. Problem is midrange Shaman just isn't that good right now, despite getting alot of love with Lava Shock and Fireguard Destroyer. Too slow, and while it still crushes control matchups (Handlock/control Demonlock, Control Warrior), control decks aren't popular compared to the combo decks, which just crush Midrange Shaman generally (Oil Rogue through excessive board clears and removals+burst, Patron Warrior because totems actually help Patron kill Shaman, which generally has very little heal anyways, Freeze Mage because FREEZE+board clears+burst). | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 10 2015 09:46 mordek wrote: Tough mudder was conquered. Might have some pics later :3 I applaud you for having the dedication to do it. + Show Spoiler + no wonder you're juicier than wave, hue | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Zombie Chow x2 Equality Shielded minibot x2 Ironbeak Owl BGH Muster for Battle Blackwing Technician x2 Aldor Peacekeeper x2 Argus Defender x2 Hungry Drake x2 Consecrate x2 TSC x2 Dragon Consort x2 Azure Drake x2 Blackwing Corruptor x2 Loatheb Healbot Emperor Thaurissian Dr. Boom I've checked some other lists, but they seem to not have any card draw either. That's one of the drawbacks I've found to putting Twilight Drakes instead of Azure (the curve is so heavy on 4-5 drops): they come faster and are way stronger when I get a shit opening hand, but there's 0 draw then (and I'd have to craft them). I have little presence early (super reliant on minibot/chow) but my mulligan options are limited because I only have Muster (gotta craft a 2nd one at some point) and Tech+Dragon (despite 6 dragons in the deck it's been very rare for me to have that by turn 3, even when going 2nd) for turn 3 and I drop a ton of tempo if I don't have one (Consecrate feels weak as a turn 4 play unlss I'm against Zoo or something, with all the 3 health minions running around). Hungry Drake will have to go. Sure, RNG plays a part (it's given Flame Imp twice in two plays in different games today) but as a 4-drop it just doesn't cut it if I don't have a strong start to have board control and kill the 1-drop. If it doesn't happen, then Hungry Dragon is likely to trade 1 for 1 (if you include the 1-drop). I can't cut too many dragons because then there's no point to the deck, Consort relies on it, and Corruptor is a shit card without a dragon (5-drop that trades 1-for-1 with 4 drops and some 3-drops too). Argus are there because Belchers would clog up the 5-drop spot too much. TL;DR: - very tempo reliant deck because little to no draw - on the other hand very reliant on opening hand/draws because dragon synergy - no good removal - without a big finisher I'm really easy to out-value with a budget deck I could improve the curve/tempo with Azure -> Twilight (and Argus -> Belcher has a result), crafting a second Muster. I don't have draw/a combo/a late game in general so Thaurissian could/should go. Because killing minions is reliant on Muster somehow living a full turn or an Equality combo, Volcanic Drake and Solemn Vigil look like really bad cards for this deck's core (and Volcanic Drake's health is so low it only feels good if you play it "as a bonus", even if you drake it turn 4 there's something to remove it immediatly in all likeliness). But Consort+Twilight isn't enough. Even if I replace Thaurissian with Nefarian 5 is too low to have good chances of buffed Technicians on turn 3. I really am not convinced by a Dragon Paladin deck the more I look at it. "Control Paladin with Consorts and Ysera" looks like the most viable way of playing these cards so meh, it's not dragon. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/244092-kibler-dragodin-5-6-15 | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
What's the point of Chromaggus in such a draw-less list anyway? Sit in your hand for synergy then pray it gifts you another Tirion when the first gets slenced? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On May 10 2015 11:27 jcarlsoniv wrote: jk, fuck shaman, crafting tirion so I can play with dragodin deck There's my guy | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mYZO7HX.jpg) Is that picture working? Its not for me and I have no idea why. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On May 10 2015 11:20 Alaric wrote: I don't exactly have the dust for Coghammer, Quartermaster and Tirion. x) What's the point of Chromaggus in such a draw-less list anyway? Sit in your hand for synergy then pray it gifts you another Tirion when the first gets slenced? It's a non-BGHable threat that needs to be removed immediately, and having it survive just 1 or 2 turns late game means you win the grind against control. Quicker than Ysera as well. Plus Dragondin DEPENDS on having a high mana dragon, and you aren't running any, which is problematic. On May 10 2015 10:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Someone tell Lord Tolkien to stop talking to me about White Power on steam pls As I told you, my favorite color is blue. You're merely extrapolating white power in order to defend your irrational fanboi-ism of TSM and baseball. But mostly baseball. On May 10 2015 11:27 jcarlsoniv wrote: jk, fuck shaman, crafting tirion so I can play with dragodin deck Paladin way better than Shaman, even if dracodin decks are still unrefined, and Tirion is used in every Paladin deck anyways. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On May 10 2015 11:39 Ketara wrote: + Show Spoiler + Is that picture working? Its not for me and I have no idea why. works for me. maybe its the connection your using | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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