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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Oh please, it wouldn't be so bad. Ok, so I was thinking LT, maybe the mistake that USA made in the middle east was leaving Iraq too early. They just bailed before they got rid of all the bad guys, while they really needed to stay longer and root them out. I've heard so many people say that USA shoulda never gone to Iraq, but why haven't I seen this opinion said ever? | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
The primary issue is that the Obama administration felt, at the time, that the post-intervention political environment and the coalition government would be stable enough to last and rule on their own (and the decision was no doubt exacerbated by the economic crisis and the need to simply cut back on what has already been a costly, and relatively pointless, intervention); when US forces left the area, Nouri al-Maliki largely abrogated the religious and minority rights of the Sunni in Iraq, which brought them back as a major recruitment source for ISIS/Al Qaeda in Iraq . | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:19 Scip wrote: Oh please, it wouldn't be so bad. Ok, so I was thinking LT, maybe the mistake that USA made in the middle east was leaving Iraq too early. They just bailed before they got rid of all the bad guys, while they really needed to stay longer and root them out. I've heard so many people say that USA shoulda never gone to Iraq, but why haven't I seen this opinion said ever? Because there are really only 2 ways to deal with an insurgency, kill/burn everything or change the minds of the local population, which takes a long time, longer with cultural differences between US, a mostly Christian nation heritage wise and Iraq, a Muslim/less progressive I guess, nation? No idea how to phrase it to not sound racist:/ | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:19 Scip wrote: Oh please, it wouldn't be so bad. Ok, so I was thinking LT, maybe the mistake that USA made in the middle east was leaving Iraq too early. They just bailed before they got rid of all the bad guys, while they really needed to stay longer and root them out. I've heard so many people say that USA shoulda never gone to Iraq, but why haven't I seen this opinion said ever? Because the cost of staying is pretty substantial. Plus despite popular the opinion (before the implementation) the "surge" worked. It's just matter of cost benefit for the US, most citizens are tired of it, spent way too much money in the region, at this point people just want to "cut our losses". | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
will be streaming moar xcom in like 10m twitch.tv On April 30 2015 09:32 Crusnik wrote: Because there are really only 2 ways to deal with an insurgency, kill/burn everything or change the minds of the local population, which takes a long time, longer with cultural differences between US, a mostly Christian nation heritage wise and Iraq, a Muslim/less progressive I guess, nation? No idea how to phrase it to not sound racist:/ wat The main issue that besets Iraq has been sectarian violence, of which ISIS/ISIL is just another extension of. There are also other factors, but this is...kind of actually racist, yeah. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35158 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:19 Scip wrote: Oh please, it wouldn't be so bad. Ok, so I was thinking LT, maybe the mistake that USA made in the middle east was leaving Iraq too early. They just bailed before they got rid of all the bad guys, while they really needed to stay longer and root them out. I've heard so many people say that USA shoulda never gone to Iraq, but why haven't I seen this opinion said ever? Since it followed Afghanistan, the prospect of being in another war was unpopular with a lot of people. Even more so when it went "Uh, so the reasons we gave for going into this war weren't actually...true, heh." people started giving negative fucks about wanting to continue the war. Add that on top of the obvious grievance due to loss of life and the sheer cost of being at war, people just wanted to be done with the whole situation. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:34 Lord Tolkien wrote: Anyways, I finally figured out what the problem behind the 5 minute lag every autosave was. Fking Steam. will be streaming moar xcom in like 10m twitch.tv wat The main issue that besets Iraq has been sectarian violence, of which ISIS/ISIL is just another extension of. There are also other factors, but this is...kind of actually racist, yeah. It was my understanding of why, because I never bothered to look into the underlying factors because honestly, I don't give a fuck. I don't care about world politics, I don't care about national politics, I frankly don't give a shit about any political bullshit that gets spewed because it's all pointless and will barely affect me. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:19 Scip wrote: Oh please, it wouldn't be so bad. Ok, so I was thinking LT, maybe the mistake that USA made in the middle east was leaving Iraq too early. They just bailed before they got rid of all the bad guys, while they really needed to stay longer and root them out. I've heard so many people say that USA shoulda never gone to Iraq, but why haven't I seen this opinion said ever? The issue with Irak is that after ending the Sadam reign theý lacked man power and economic means to 'force' stability and rebuild infrastructure. Creating in essence a second Afghanistan. Unlike the Korea war where the was political and militaristic interests in gaining control of the region and creating a strong economy in the region neither the political interest or the will of the people are there to do it in Irak. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:19 Requizen wrote: lawd save me ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MW5Oc0j.png?1) "Unlimited play time" What a way to sell something. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 30 2015 09:35 Requizen wrote: I have brought shame on my house I don't feel remotely bad. I warned you constantly. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On April 30 2015 10:24 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't feel remotely bad. I warned you constantly. Its okay req. I'll play with you. It'll be fun  | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 30 2015 10:42 Cixah wrote: Its okay req. I'll play with you. It'll be fun I'm a Panda! | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
maybe? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
private room - 217 - mafia | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 30 2015 11:28 Cixah wrote: Req what's your battle tag. Named after the best Champion ever to enter Summoner's Rift | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 30 2015 11:38 Requizen wrote: Person of Interest is insane Named after the best Champion ever to enter Summoner's Rift yeah, that last episode. dem feelz | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On April 30 2015 11:38 Requizen wrote: Person of Interest is insane Named after the best Champion ever to enter Summoner's Rift Lux? | ||
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