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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 13 2015 20:32 GMT
#95341
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

I was about to say, this from the guy who downs Monsters on a regular basis lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 13 2015 20:34 GMT
#95342
just take the monster zeros or someshit
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 13 2015 20:34 GMT
#95343
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

This right here is why I weigh at least 30 pounds more than I need to. I get so bored of water that I rarely am able to make the paradigm shift for more than a couple days. It's also why I've started drinking tea.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 20:39:16
April 13 2015 20:35 GMT
#95344
On April 14 2015 05:32 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

I was about to say, this from the guy who downs Monsters on a regular basis lol


But it's the only sugary thing I drink outside of a very occasional soda! Which is far more than can be said of a lot of people. And even then, it's usually the Ultra series, so no calories or sugar (so, sucralose instead, but whatever shut up).

On April 14 2015 05:34 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

This right here is why I weigh at least 30 pounds more than I need to. I get so bored of water that I rarely am able to make the paradigm shift for more than a couple days. It's also why I've started drinking tea.


Dude. Get a large water bottle, fill it up all the time. Get thirsty? Pound some of that shit. Want to drink something else? TOO BAD. Being sufficiently hydrated with water feels so good.

I don't even know what "bored of water" could even possibly mean lol. The taste?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 20:36:42
April 13 2015 20:36 GMT
#95345
On April 14 2015 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:28 Numy wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:15 Numy wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:09 Numy wrote:
That's not interesting Soniv. That's 100% typical person there. Complaining about something while putting in no effort to change that thing is as standard human being as you get.


I guess... I've just never understood overeating and constantly snacking. But I guess part of it is that I was just constantly active growing up, so I couldn't eat like utter shit. I've definitely gotten worse since graduating, but still haven't really gained much weight.


I don't get it either. I'm trying to put on weight and failing at that. How do people just do it without even trying ;(

And here I am wishing I could lose weight if I wanted to. Well not at this instant since I'm lifting, but there are plenty of times I've been active and watching what I eat without being able to lose much weight at all.


Trade bodies? The only time I've put on weight is about 2 years ago where I was kind of depressed and drinking a bottle of whiskey every week.

Do you have fast metabolism? or do you just not eat enough calories?


I think it's just a fast metabolism. I used to do sports every day at school so that didn't help but at the time I was guzzling coke like a fiend too. Then my university is built on the side of a mountain and I walked to it every day(4 times a day in fact) so that didn't help. Eventually in that last year I was inactive, driving to uni and drowning my sorrows with alcohol and pizza yet only managed to put on a few kgs :<.

Now days I only drink water and cut all the crap while being active. Haven't lost any weight which I take as a plus though. Just need to start putting on weight now ;(
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 13 2015 20:41 GMT
#95346
On April 14 2015 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:32 mordek wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

I was about to say, this from the guy who downs Monsters on a regular basis lol


But it's the only sugary thing I drink outside of a very occasional soda! Which is far more than can be said of a lot of people. And even then, it's usually the Ultra series, so no calories or sugar (so, sucralose instead, but whatever shut up).

Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:34 Gahlo wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sugary drinks are just super easy to consume and not think about. Sodas and juices are just so sugary and tasty and addictive, but pack on sooooooo much unneeded stuff.

Always water, never not water. Lots of it. Except for, ya know, coffee (which is fine if you drink it black) and a Monster (do as I say, not as I do).

This right here is why I weigh at least 30 pounds more than I need to. I get so bored of water that I rarely am able to make the paradigm shift for more than a couple days. It's also why I've started drinking tea.


Dude. Get a large water bottle, fill it up all the time. Get thirsty? Pound some of that shit. Want to drink something else? TOO BAD. Being sufficiently hydrated with water feels so good.

I don't even know what "bored of water" could even possibly mean lol. The taste?

Bingo.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 13 2015 20:46 GMT
#95347
The fast/slow metabolism thing is vastly overblown FWIW, at least in the way it's most commonly used, which is as some kind of reference to thyroid hormone making a person burn more/less calories despite having similar everything else to another person(or they just flat out ignore the 'everything else' part).

Metabolism's literal definition is all of the energy used in chemical processes by your body, which means an athlete like Micheal Phelps that ran on 10k calories a day during his Olympic prep may actually have a normal thyroid hormone level, but his metabolism was ridiculous, because he was putting in an ungodly amount of swimming volume.

The far far far more important factors are the hormones that regulate appetite. The difference between Alaric at his tiniest and those MTG buttcrack dudes isn't activity level(both did/do nothing), it's that Alaric never felt compelled to eat anything, and they had constant little hunger pangs, which are most effectively dealt with by eating terrible, calorie dense foods, and drinking pop, etc.

When I started training people it became so obvious how much more of a difference the food intake made in comparison to literally all other factors. Put someone on a food log, have them write down EVERYTHING they eat, and suddenly it's extremely obvious why they are putting on/losing weight/staying the same despite 'trying' to do one of the others. Not that there are literally no exceptions out there, but it's probably an extremely tight bellcurve with really short tails, and the very few people at the tails have legit medical issues.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 13 2015 20:47 GMT
#95348
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.
liftlift > tsm
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 13 2015 20:49 GMT
#95349
On April 14 2015 05:46 red_ wrote:
The far far far more important factors are the hormones that regulate appetite. The difference between Alaric at his tiniest and those MTG buttcrack dudes isn't activity level(both did/do nothing), it's that Alaric never felt compelled to eat anything, and they had constant little hunger pangs, which are most effectively dealt with by eating terrible, calorie dense foods, and drinking pop, etc.


definitely one of my favorite paragraphs in OT history
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 13 2015 20:51 GMT
#95350
Why did you have to bring up buttcrack dudes. It's so nasty . Everything else makes sense. I know I just have to eat more but just telling someone to eat more is like telling them to "just get over it". It's not that easy sometimes.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 13 2015 20:53 GMT
#95351
On April 14 2015 05:46 red_ wrote:
The fast/slow metabolism thing is vastly overblown FWIW, at least in the way it's most commonly used, which is as some kind of reference to thyroid hormone making a person burn more/less calories despite having similar everything else to another person(or they just flat out ignore the 'everything else' part).

Metabolism's literal definition is all of the energy used in chemical processes by your body, which means an athlete like Micheal Phelps that ran on 10k calories a day during his Olympic prep may actually have a normal thyroid hormone level, but his metabolism was ridiculous, because he was putting in an ungodly amount of swimming volume.

The far far far more important factors are the hormones that regulate appetite. The difference between Alaric at his tiniest and those MTG buttcrack dudes isn't activity level(both did/do nothing), it's that Alaric never felt compelled to eat anything, and they had constant little hunger pangs, which are most effectively dealt with by eating terrible, calorie dense foods, and drinking pop, etc.

When I started training people it became so obvious how much more of a difference the food intake made in comparison to literally all other factors. Put someone on a food log, have them write down EVERYTHING they eat, and suddenly it's extremely obvious why they are putting on/losing weight/staying the same despite 'trying' to do one of the others. Not that there are literally no exceptions out there, but it's probably an extremely tight bellcurve with really short tails, and the very few people at the tails have legit medical issues.

Yeah, but the way we're using it now is that Sony used to be a college athlete who's apatite adapted as his lifestyle did and I, who was recreationally active, still eat the same way I did before.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
April 13 2015 20:53 GMT
#95352
On April 14 2015 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.

I am not sure I understand
the thing that should stop you from getting soda should be laziness
I'm not sure how the gallon bottle of water helps
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 13 2015 20:54 GMT
#95353
On April 14 2015 05:28 Numy wrote:
I was kind of depressed and drinking a bottle of whiskey every week.


Wait I thought that's what happy people did. Am I doing something horribly wrong?
TranslatorBaa!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 13 2015 20:56 GMT
#95354
On April 14 2015 05:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:28 Numy wrote:
I was kind of depressed and drinking a bottle of whiskey every week.


Wait I thought that's what happy people did. Am I doing something horribly wrong?

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"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 13 2015 20:58 GMT
#95355
Lady friend has become attached. She's not happy that I've spent the past 2 days playing d3 . I suppose I haven't made any time for her, but its been nice to recharge for a bit with just my own thoughts for awhile.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 20:59:25
April 13 2015 20:58 GMT
#95356
On April 14 2015 05:53 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.

I am not sure I understand
the thing that should stop you from getting soda should be laziness
I'm not sure how the gallon bottle of water helps

because it's an alternative that's much closer to me than soda.
On April 14 2015 05:58 Cixah wrote:
Lady friend has become attached. She's not happy that I've spent the past 2 days playing d3 . I suppose I haven't made any time for her, but its been nice to recharge for a bit with just my own thoughts for awhile.

well shit... items ain't guna farm themselves...
liftlift > tsm
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 13 2015 20:59 GMT
#95357
On April 14 2015 05:53 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.

I am not sure I understand
the thing that should stop you from getting soda should be laziness
I'm not sure how the gallon bottle of water helps


In your scenario, if he didn't have the water bottle next to him and got thirsty, would he just sit and be thirsty rather than getting something (presumably soda) to quench the thirst?
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 13 2015 21:02 GMT
#95358
On April 14 2015 05:51 Numy wrote:
Why did you have to bring up buttcrack dudes. It's so nasty . Everything else makes sense. I know I just have to eat more but just telling someone to eat more is like telling them to "just get over it". It's not that easy sometimes.


I know it's not easy, I was a stick figure in high school and my college coaches had to stay on me hard for me to gain some weight when I got to college. But I stuck through it and my appetite now pretty much matches my weight(If I fall back to old habits of not eating I get immensely hungry).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 21:09:14
April 13 2015 21:07 GMT
#95359
On April 14 2015 05:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:53 Scip wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.

I am not sure I understand
the thing that should stop you from getting soda should be laziness
I'm not sure how the gallon bottle of water helps


In your scenario, if he didn't have the water bottle next to him and got thirsty, would he just sit and be thirsty rather than getting something (presumably soda) to quench the thirst?

well, in my mind he had a convenient tap nearby
might not be the case in reality though

in hindsight I probably didn't make any sense but I reserve my right to do that once in a while
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 13 2015 21:10 GMT
#95360
On April 14 2015 06:07 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:53 Scip wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:
I always have a gallon bottle of water next to me, stops me from going out and getting soda.

I am not sure I understand
the thing that should stop you from getting soda should be laziness
I'm not sure how the gallon bottle of water helps


In your scenario, if he didn't have the water bottle next to him and got thirsty, would he just sit and be thirsty rather than getting something (presumably soda) to quench the thirst?

well, in my mind he had a convenient tap nearby
might not be the case in reality though

in hindsight I probably didn't make any sense but I reserve my right to do that once in a while


nope, you're Euro, you're mandated by international law to be held to a higher standard
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