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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 21:39:10
June 27 2014 21:33 GMT
#46101
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 27 2014 21:48 GMT
#46102
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 27 2014 21:50 GMT
#46103
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

and this is retarded.
liftlift > tsm
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 21:58:24
June 27 2014 21:56 GMT
#46104
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

they can if the player is unable to play, like fear.

that is where the suspicion is, because fnatic went public and said valve isn't allowing them to play with excalibur because era has a medical condition preventing him from playing and that they would risk his health by playing him.

but this info from valve says that era is able to play just fine so now it looks like fnatic was just trying to rally public support. tricky.
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
and this is retarded.

no it's not.
if you want a seeded invite based on past performance then you need to keep your team together.
you can always earn an invite at the qualifying tournament, like LGD did last year after their changes.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35170 Posts
June 27 2014 21:57 GMT
#46105
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

and this is retarded.

And people thought League teams had issues with keeping people around who are past their prime for viewers.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 27 2014 22:00 GMT
#46106
On June 28 2014 05:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FYI 6ah, there's a fair chance I might be streaming tonight, so you'll probably have entertainment

Sweet cuz I'm not 100% sure I can pop on to say hai
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 22:03:10
June 27 2014 22:02 GMT
#46107
On June 28 2014 06:56 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

they can if the player is unable to play, like fear.

that is where the suspicion is, because fnatic went public and said valve isn't allowing them to play with excalibur because era has a medical condition preventing him from playing and that they would risk his health by playing him.

but this info from valve says that era is able to play just fine so now it looks like fnatic was just trying to rally public support. tricky.
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
and this is retarded.

no it's not.
if you want a seeded invite based on past performance then you need to keep your team together.
you can always earn an invite at the qualifying tournament, like LGD did last year after their changes.

No, I want the best fucking team each organization can field so I can see the best fucking games. Not forcing players to play together because the tourney organization says so.

Also, you'd be seriously misguided if you think teams would just willynilly do team trades and think their team is going to magically get better. The teams have to invest serious amount of downtime to replace players to create a better overall team, and if the team doesn't need a long time to see improvement then that means the player you replaced was fucking shittier than zoonie, and deserved to get replaced.
On June 28 2014 06:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

and this is retarded.

And people thought League teams had issues with keeping people around who are past their prime for viewers.

yeah, I thought legacy players on teams was an issue...
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 22:03:23
June 27 2014 22:03 GMT
#46108
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35170 Posts
June 27 2014 22:05 GMT
#46109
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you go into the mic's properties and mess with the sensitivity?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 27 2014 22:09 GMT
#46110
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you try turning it off and back on again?
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 22:10:03
June 27 2014 22:09 GMT
#46111
On June 28 2014 07:05 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you go into the mic's properties and mess with the sensitivity?

Yup. No bueno.
On June 28 2014 07:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you try turning it off and back on again?

Bup. Yo nueno.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 27 2014 22:10 GMT
#46112
reinstall realtek drivers?
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 27 2014 22:11 GMT
#46113
On June 28 2014 07:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:56 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

they can if the player is unable to play, like fear.

that is where the suspicion is, because fnatic went public and said valve isn't allowing them to play with excalibur because era has a medical condition preventing him from playing and that they would risk his health by playing him.

but this info from valve says that era is able to play just fine so now it looks like fnatic was just trying to rally public support. tricky.
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
and this is retarded.

no it's not.
if you want a seeded invite based on past performance then you need to keep your team together.
you can always earn an invite at the qualifying tournament, like LGD did last year after their changes.

No, I want the best fucking team each organization can field so I can see the best fucking games. Not forcing players to play together because the tourney organization says so.

Also, you'd be seriously misguided if you think teams would just willynilly do team trades and think their team is going to magically get better. The teams have to invest serious amount of downtime to replace players to create a better overall team, and if the team doesn't need a long time to see improvement then that means the player you replaced was fucking shittier than zoonie, and deserved to get replaced.
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:57 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

and this is retarded.

And people thought League teams had issues with keeping people around who are past their prime for viewers.

yeah, I thought legacy players on teams was an issue...


While I don't have an opinion on the matter I do want to just clear up something. There's been very real cases of new teams forming and doing really well then breaking apart or slumping really hard into break up. One of the most recent examples of this is LGD.int and Sigma.int. In the former case the players are all really good and on good teams now (Mouz/Navi.US). Sometimes it's not a case of a player being bad but just some kind of team gelling and style that works out.

The rule is also partly in place to stop them from inviting a team then the team that shows up at the international is completely different with none of the reasoning for the invite in the first place. Can just imagine if they invite say Sigma.int because they were doing really well then that team now breaks up into Mouz and whatever team the frenchies are on. It's a product of the way they handle the invite structure and protecting players. I'd imagine if there were actual player unions and someone to enforce contracts none of this would be needed.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 27 2014 22:13 GMT
#46114
On June 28 2014 06:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:03 Cixah wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
FYI 6ah, there's a fair chance I might be streaming tonight, so you'll probably have entertainment


You are a god.


Thought I was an atheist 'til I realized I'm a god.

jcarlWest has spoken.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 22:16:50
June 27 2014 22:14 GMT
#46115
On June 28 2014 07:09 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 07:05 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you go into the mic's properties and mess with the sensitivity?

Yup. No bueno.
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 07:09 Requizen wrote:
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?

Did you try turning it off and back on again?

Bup. Yo nueno.



Check Device Manager. You may have something Stock that isn't actually hooked up set as primary. If that doesn't work rerun drivers AS ADMIN and then we can move from there. Windows likes to force detect things. It's silly that way.

EDIT:
As for the whole Fnatic thing.

I think it's fine that Valve has stuck to their guns here. The rule exists in order to prevent exactly this scenario. You can't just go an ENTIRE season with someone, and then as soon as you get your invite (The same time that they started playing with xcalibur) switch and expect valve to respect it. You worked that hard with these people for that long play the game.

The problem here is the ERA doesn't want to play. If he doesn't play then that's his problem that he's dicking over 4 other people.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 27 2014 22:16 GMT
#46116
On June 28 2014 07:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 07:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:56 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

they can if the player is unable to play, like fear.

that is where the suspicion is, because fnatic went public and said valve isn't allowing them to play with excalibur because era has a medical condition preventing him from playing and that they would risk his health by playing him.

but this info from valve says that era is able to play just fine so now it looks like fnatic was just trying to rally public support. tricky.
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
and this is retarded.

no it's not.
if you want a seeded invite based on past performance then you need to keep your team together.
you can always earn an invite at the qualifying tournament, like LGD did last year after their changes.

No, I want the best fucking team each organization can field so I can see the best fucking games. Not forcing players to play together because the tourney organization says so.

Also, you'd be seriously misguided if you think teams would just willynilly do team trades and think their team is going to magically get better. The teams have to invest serious amount of downtime to replace players to create a better overall team, and if the team doesn't need a long time to see improvement then that means the player you replaced was fucking shittier than zoonie, and deserved to get replaced.
On June 28 2014 06:57 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 06:17 kainzero wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:34 caelym wrote:
Delicious drama is cooking up at TI4. A doctor really needs to approve Era's health because of course a player is going to say he can play irregardless of his health.

fnatic shouldn't have gone public. pitchforks were raised at valve and then valve posted some pretty damning documentation.

also i like how it's being called drama just because i feel like that when the conditions are met, "drama" evolves into "politics".

EDIT: ooooh okay, i get it.

fnatic wants to play without this era dude, but valve is like "yo, let this kid play".

I see a lot of valve praise, but tbh shouldn't it be a teams decision?


Valve doesn't invite teams, they invite 5 players that form the team so the team can't make any changes to who goes.

and this is retarded.

And people thought League teams had issues with keeping people around who are past their prime for viewers.

yeah, I thought legacy players on teams was an issue...


While I don't have an opinion on the matter I do want to just clear up something. There's been very real cases of new teams forming and doing really well then breaking apart or slumping really hard into break up. One of the most recent examples of this is LGD.int and Sigma.int. In the former case the players are all really good and on good teams now (Mouz/Navi.US). Sometimes it's not a case of a player being bad but just some kind of team gelling and style that works out.

The rule is also partly in place to stop them from inviting a team then the team that shows up at the international is completely different with none of the reasoning for the invite in the first place. Can just imagine if they invite say Sigma.int because they were doing really well then that team now breaks up into Mouz and whatever team the frenchies are on. It's a product of the way they handle the invite structure and protecting players. I'd imagine if there were actual player unions and someone to enforce contracts none of this would be needed.

I mentioned this on LD, but that's more a scene stability issue. Outside of TI, there's no incentive for teams to consistently field the best possible team they have.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 27 2014 22:19 GMT
#46117
...I'm a fucking idiot.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 27 2014 22:19 GMT
#46118
On June 28 2014 07:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok guys my computer only has one more issue with it. The microphones are all failing to work. The ports recognize that there is a microphone in there, but mic receives no sound. The mics work on all other computers. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

In the case of one mic I have, I am able to get it to barely register sound by yelling into it and making its sensitivity as high as possible. Any ideas?


you mean you won't be able to talk at game night?

damn shame, dunno how to help
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 27 2014 22:20 GMT
#46119
On June 28 2014 07:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
...I'm a fucking idiot.


It's ok. In the IT world we call these "Learning Experiences."
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 27 2014 22:21 GMT
#46120
On June 28 2014 07:20 Cixah wrote:
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On June 28 2014 07:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
...I'm a fucking idiot.


It's ok. In the IT world we call these "Learning Experiences."


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