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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
August 18 2024 17:45 GMT
#1341
lol Clem literally losing his mind onstage
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
August 18 2024 17:45 GMT
#1342
This almost makes me want to rewatch the Reynor series. I felt like Reynor had a much easier time matching up against Clem's multitasking. Surprised how much weaker Serral appeared. Never felt like he had a chance in any of the 8 games.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1343
Winning 400k at once is so crazy. Life changing for Clem.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
209 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1344
Goddam, Serral got absolutely bodied. What dominance by Clem.

Congrats to him!
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1345
French fans needed something after Olympic Basketball :D
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1346
GG Clem! Very unusual final day with 4-0, 4-0, 5-0.
starcraft2.fi
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1347
Was always a question if when Clem rose to the top, not if, but damn did he ever pick the right time to peak. 9-0 in the final day, zero series losses in a triple elim tourney.. a total champ. Unbelievable run.

GG Clement. <3
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1186 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1348
Wow, congratulations to Clem. Incredible play. A final to remember.
Mutation complete.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1349
Congrats Clem. Now, I can safely say that he is new four horsemen of Terran,

Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1350
On August 19 2024 02:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:35 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:34 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost?

Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard

Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro.


The good old "kill him before he gets there".

Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.

Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem?

Maybe. They've already gotten nerfed 3 times now, so the zerg cabal seems to think so

Same as Ghosts

Ghosts have mainly gotten their vP abilities nerfed (EMP range, radius). Is Snipe really the problem here? I don't know. But the fact that ghosts can be massed, which just shouldn't be the case for spellcasters, imho. Never should've been the case, and having a few ghosts for EMP and some other spell (anti-bio) should definitely be an addition, but ghosts have a decent attack, can snipe high value targets, and EMP works vs both spellcasters and shields. No wonder they get massed. Try building 30 infestors in your army.

Meanwhile, the fact that ravens are mostly useless in TvZ atm is a real shame.


Ghosts has always been the problem for toss and Zergs. When emp destroys toss. While snipe kills any late game units from Zergs. Ghost got more buffs than nerfs. All their nerfs are quite small in general. Massing 15-20 ghosts literally kills Zergs main army before it even engages
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1351
Damn pure dominance! Haven't seen any big mistake in any game of the finals from clem
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1352
vive la france!
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
August 18 2024 17:46 GMT
#1353
On August 19 2024 02:44 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:39 darklycid wrote:
I still think maru has the better lategame but clem just gets into it in a way better position, like clem is active into transitioning and maru just let serraltake the map.

Its about the non-stop trading that keep Serral from doing that he wants tech-wise. Maru playing too passively these days really hurt him.

Yeah Maru is not as active as Clem nowadays in his TvZ so he can’t prevent Serral from doing what he wants. Then it’s a losing battle imo.
Clem otoh denies creep very well and Serral just can’t catch a break

What a dominant run from Clem, ggs, superb StarCraft! The prophecy
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
August 18 2024 17:47 GMT
#1354
On August 19 2024 02:45 Hider wrote:
This almost makes me want to rewatch the Reynor series. I felt like Reynor had a much easier time matching up against Clem's multitasking. Surprised how much weaker Serral appeared. Never felt like he had a chance in any of the 8 games.

Reynor can match Clem speed on both ends, and his split against Clem mines is better in general. Also Solar would have given Clem more difficulty than Serral with his defensive style.
Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
137 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1355
Gratz to Clem ! What an godly play ! Never seen terran be played like that. Serral was kinda hopeless all time long, which has almost never been seen before. He wasnt his best today, but even with prime Serral, this Clem would have probably been too big of a task to conquer. GG WP !
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1356
On August 19 2024 02:45 dysenterymd wrote:
That was even more dominant than the Serral vs Maru finals, there was a game or two where Maru had a lead. Clem never looked in trouble.

That wasn't Serral's cleanest play (you can see it with his widow mine drags etc), but even at his best I think Clem would've beaten him.

Hopefully we never do bo9 finals again, almost all SC2 grand finals are bad so no need to drag 'em out.

It was annoying listening to Tastosis dick ride Serral when Serral was clearly losing. I feel like their time is over and they should step aside. But knowing the SC2 scene, they won't.
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1357
CONGRATS CLEM <3
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1358
On August 19 2024 02:47 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:45 Hider wrote:
This almost makes me want to rewatch the Reynor series. I felt like Reynor had a much easier time matching up against Clem's multitasking. Surprised how much weaker Serral appeared. Never felt like he had a chance in any of the 8 games.

Reynor can match Clem speed on both ends, and his split against Clem mines is better in general. Also Solar would have given Clem more difficulty than Serral with his defensive style.

I think Solar against Clem would look similar to his games against Maru. Solar limps into the lategame in a worse position and then gets beat there.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1359
On August 19 2024 02:46 Zidane wrote:
French fans needed something after Olympic Basketball :D


Just one point difference to deny the overall medals obtained by United States over China?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
August 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#1360
On August 19 2024 02:47 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:45 Hider wrote:
This almost makes me want to rewatch the Reynor series. I felt like Reynor had a much easier time matching up against Clem's multitasking. Surprised how much weaker Serral appeared. Never felt like he had a chance in any of the 8 games.

Reynor can match Clem speed on both ends, and his split against Clem mines is better in general. Also Solar would have given Clem more difficulty than Serral with his defensive style.

Even Dark would have fared better against Clem
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