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Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2024 (Sep 4-8)

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Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1163 Posts
July 12 2024 22:05 GMT
#1

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Bulgaria is set to make a monumental entry into the esports world with Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2024, the country’s first-ever global Major Tier esports tournament. Organized by the Bulgarian StarCraft League and Bellum Gens, this event promises to be a true spectacle for the international esports community.

This StarCraft II epic will take place in the ancient city of Stara Zagora, at the heart of the Thracian Valley, and aims to become a must-attend event for esports fans. We invite every fan of raw esports thrill to join us LIVE this September in Stara Zagora, Bulgaria, where 16 of the best players in the world will battle for StarCraft II glory.

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Discipline: StarCraft II

For over 26 years, our beloved StarCraft has been a cornerstone of the esports industry, and now it will take center stage in Bulgaria. Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2024 will feature 16 top-tier players, with 8 invited and 8 more qualifying through open competitions.

The Stars Align

Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2024 will showcase some of the biggest names in the StarCraft II world, including:


  • Riccardo “Reynor” Romiti: 2021 World Champion and Gamers8 2023 Champion. Representing Red Bull and team BASILISK, Reynor is a Zerg player and a global superstar.

  • Li “Oliveira” Peinan: 2023 World Champion from China, the first Chinese player to win the world title in the renowned history of StarCraft esports.

  • Clément “Clem” Desplanches: The top young European Terran talent, a six-time European Champion, representing Team Liquid.

  • Kim “Stats” Dae Yeob: A South Korean Protoss legend known as "The Shield of Aiur," representing Twisted Minds.

  • Kang “Solar” Min Soo: Beloved by fans and a top Zerg player from South Korea, playing for Team Vitality.

  • Tobias “ShoWTimE” Sieber: A veteran Protoss player from Germany known as "Die Mauer" (The Wall) for his defensive playstyle.

  • Diego “Kelazhur” Schwimer: A South American Terran maestro from Brazil, currently ranked 3rd in the Americas.

  • Piotr “Spirit” Walukiewicz: A rising Terran star from Poland, representing Natus Vincere (Na’Vi).



These elite players will be joined by 8 more who will qualify through open qualifiers.

Open Qualifiers


Global Qualifier: Saturday, Jul 20 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Open to players worldwide, determining 7 competitors.

Bulgarian Qualifier: Sunday, Jul 21 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Open to Bulgarian players, determining 1 competitor.

Registrations are open until July 18
Apply for the tournament here: https://bellumgens.com/en/bellumgenselite


The Main Event

From September 4-8, 2024, the main event will unfold at the breathtaking Summer Theatre in Stara Zagora, nestled in the heart of the ancient Thracian Valley. This open-air venue invites visitors to immerse themselves in the enchanting ambiance of these historic plains, where the fusion of tradition and modernity creates a captivating and artistic spectacle.

September 4: Media Day, where fans can meet their favorite players and collect their event wristbands.
September 5-8: Competition days, culminating in the crowning of the champion on September 8.

Experience Bulgaria

This event isn't just about esports; it's an invitation to explore Bulgaria. Fans traveling to Stara Zagora will have the chance to experience local culture, history, and hospitality. The unique open-air setting will provide an unforgettable atmosphere for both players and spectators.

Get Your Tickets Now!

Don’t miss this historic event! Secure your place in esports history by getting your tickets now:

Gold League Ticket: 80 BGN (approx. €40).

Diamond League Ticket: 120 BGN (approx. €60).

Grandmaster League Ticket: 195 BGN (approx. €100). Includes an exclusive goodie bag!

Visit https://bellumgens.com/en/bellumgenselite for more information and to purchase your tickets.

Join us in Stara Zagora for an unforgettable experience!

https://x.com/bgestarazagora
https://x.com/bgstarcraft

(Wiki)Bellum Gens Elite

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veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
73 Posts
July 12 2024 23:31 GMT
#2
Always hype for more SC2 tournaments!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
July 13 2024 00:15 GMT
#3
Ooh that's awesome news! Another offline event is very surprising. Wonder how they determined the invites though seems like a kinda random list.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33238 Posts
July 13 2024 00:50 GMT
#4
Coming from a completely unexpected place, but fantastic to have live tournaments anywhere ^_^
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria164 Posts
July 13 2024 05:09 GMT
#5
Pleasant surprise, will do my best to be there.
Btw beautiful town and people.
It's about time.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
July 13 2024 20:55 GMT
#6
Man that looks a swell place to visit
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
July 13 2024 22:20 GMT
#7
Really nice news!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
July 14 2024 12:37 GMT
#8
That looks very cool!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
July 15 2024 00:15 GMT
#9
Super excited!! I wonder how the invite list was determined, can anybody tell? It's a great lineup, I'm just curious since there's no obvious pattern to that list that I can see
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1179 Posts
July 15 2024 00:39 GMT
#10
If I had to guess they wanted at least one person from each region, and invited top players from each region until someone said yes?

Maybe Kelazhur got the nod from Americas because he lives in Europe.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Capitanoano
Profile Joined July 2019
Italy46 Posts
July 15 2024 10:13 GMT
#11
Wow, such out of nowhere and welcome news!
MoreCowbell21692
Profile Joined September 2023
4 Posts
July 15 2024 18:14 GMT
#12
Am I day-dreaming or there will be ACTUALLY a MAJOR tournament in my country?!?!?! With names like Reynor, Clem, Olivera, Solar, Stats, ShoWTimE?!
What a pleasant surprise!
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria888 Posts
July 16 2024 09:46 GMT
#13
As a Bulgarian whose mother was born in Stara Zagora, and having grown up there, this is super exciting to see.

The prize pool is equivalent to a GSL. Explains some of the big names attending! Reynor and Clem in Bulgaria for a SC2 tournament is wild.

Livin' this life like it was written.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1163 Posts
July 20 2024 09:30 GMT
#14
Global Qualifier today!

Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/bge_starazagora

(Wiki)Bellum Gens Elite/Global Qualifier
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
July 20 2024 20:32 GMT
#15
Wow, Protoss OP! =D
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33238 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 04:12:53
September 03 2024 03:01 GMT
#16
Reminder that this is coming up on Sept 5 (meet and greets for live audience starts on 4th, but actual competition starts on 5th), and the roster has filled out pretty nicely.

Clem vs Reynor revenge match?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1163 Posts
September 03 2024 07:27 GMT
#17
HYPE!
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 04 2024 00:02 GMT
#18
On September 03 2024 12:01 Waxangel wrote:
Clem vs Reynor revenge match?

Would be sweet! Good luck to all the players this Thursday as things get cooking. Some very spicy matches possible here by the weekend.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden669 Posts
September 04 2024 16:33 GMT
#19
Bracket is out, Clems side is stacked
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
161 Posts
September 04 2024 22:08 GMT
#20
Looking at the brackets looks like a reynor Clem final

Hopefully they can put on another clinic like they did at WTL. The rage table smash from Clem was pretty entertaining and unexpected
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
September 05 2024 03:06 GMT
#21
it starts in 8 hours. its 11pm right now my time. I am so pumped for this event I probably won't sleep tonight!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong746 Posts
September 05 2024 09:19 GMT
#22
How to watch ?
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1163 Posts
September 05 2024 09:23 GMT
#23
On September 05 2024 18:19 Zealot Lord wrote:
How to watch ?


https://www.twitch.tv/bge_starazagora here
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Gilgamesh_
Profile Joined September 2021
32 Posts
September 05 2024 11:23 GMT
#24
Definitely looks unique so far
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom862 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-05 12:36:24
September 05 2024 12:12 GMT
#25
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!
"I don't like Starcraft 2. I play because it's something I'm good at, it's something I've been involved in for a lot of time, and I like the competition. But I think the game is shit. I don't love it at all." - IdrA
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-05 13:09:37
September 05 2024 13:06 GMT
#26
Also that location (that valley) of the venue looks beautiful. Would have loved to plan a trip there if I knew about this sooner
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
161 Posts
September 05 2024 13:36 GMT
#27
On September 05 2024 21:12 MJG wrote:
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!


Reynor the only sc2 pro in history playing all 3 races in tournaments

He is pure entertainment genius
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6830 Posts
September 05 2024 13:46 GMT
#28
On September 05 2024 22:36 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2024 21:12 MJG wrote:
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!


Reynor the only sc2 pro in history playing all 3 races in tournaments

He is pure entertainment genius


Is this entertainment or is it arrogance?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
September 05 2024 14:04 GMT
#29
On September 05 2024 22:46 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2024 22:36 Blitzball04 wrote:
On September 05 2024 21:12 MJG wrote:
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!


Reynor the only sc2 pro in history playing all 3 races in tournaments
He is pure entertainment genius

Is this entertainment or is it arrogance?

if Reynor induces you to ask this question then it is at least entertainment. It might be both.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10046 Posts
September 05 2024 23:06 GMT
#30
the venue looks gorgeus! and the dance was a nice touch imo. now to watch some games
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6830 Posts
September 06 2024 11:46 GMT
#31
Wow the venue is beautiful. Pity the turnout is so low
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
September 06 2024 13:02 GMT
#32
On September 06 2024 20:46 Harris1st wrote:
Wow the venue is beautiful. Pity the turnout is so low


Hopefully better on the actual weekend.

Some nice fun games at least
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 06 2024 13:13 GMT
#33
Libs and disruptors really take the fun out of tvp.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
September 06 2024 13:14 GMT
#34
These games have been absolutely wild
Year of MaxPax
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-06 14:28:47
September 06 2024 14:20 GMT
#35
I didn't have pause for sun on the list haha

Great game 2 from Solar so far.

e: and yet Clem wins again despite Solar trading ahead for 18mins haha. nuts
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
September 06 2024 14:34 GMT
#36
Loving the venue
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
115 Posts
September 06 2024 15:20 GMT
#37
On September 06 2024 23:34 Nakajin wrote:
Loving the venue

Me too, would have loved to attend if I knew about it sooner. This tourney has turned out nice and quaint.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 06 2024 15:37 GMT
#38
On September 05 2024 22:36 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2024 21:12 MJG wrote:
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!


Reynor the only sc2 pro in history playing all 3 races in tournaments

He is pure entertainment genius

Who was he playing Terran against and how does his T look?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-06 16:13:58
September 06 2024 16:12 GMT
#39
On September 07 2024 00:37 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2024 22:36 Blitzball04 wrote:
On September 05 2024 21:12 MJG wrote:
Why is Reynor playing Terran?

EDIT:

msrm trying his damned hardest to throw that first game haha!


Reynor the only sc2 pro in history playing all 3 races in tournaments

He is pure entertainment genius

Who was he playing Terran against and how does his T look?

He played it the whole series against mrsm and 1 game vs Lambo. I only watched the one vs Lambo and his defense was quite sloppy. Micro and macro both looked solid though.

Edit: His medivac movement and drops also didn't look great.
wat
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12987 Posts
September 06 2024 17:19 GMT
#40
On September 06 2024 22:14 sudete wrote:
These games have been absolutely wild

Which games?
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-06 21:49:34
September 06 2024 20:34 GMT
#41
On September 07 2024 02:19 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2024 22:14 sudete wrote:
These games have been absolutely wild

Which games?

I think they were talking about Skillous vs Oliveira

Edit: Wrote Showtime instead of Skillous
wat
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 07 2024 10:24 GMT
#42
Beomulf is doing a great job commentating. I feel like he's improved a ton over the last few years.
wat
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17628 Posts
September 07 2024 11:27 GMT
#43
that was a close one for Solar, gonna have to face another protoss next round lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-07 13:29:26
September 07 2024 12:38 GMT
#44
On September 07 2024 20:27 Die4Ever wrote:
that was a close one for Solar, gonna have to face another protoss next round lol


Always like Solar games and that series had me very nervous haha.

Harstem fighting back really well to take this series to a game 5 as well!

e: wow big reverse sweep from Harstem

--

Stats vs Trigger game 1 a must watch even if you hate PvP
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17628 Posts
September 07 2024 13:37 GMT
#45
On September 07 2024 21:38 Asha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2024 20:27 Die4Ever wrote:
that was a close one for Solar, gonna have to face another protoss next round lol


Always like Solar games and that series had me very nervous haha.

Harstem fighting back really well to take this series to a game 5 as well!

e: wow big reverse sweep from Harstem

--

Stats vs Trigger game 1 a must watch even if you hate PvP

that Stats vs Trigger game was insane lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 07 2024 15:19 GMT
#46
Lovely venue, but oof, that attendance is rough. Someone is taking a bath on this. Hopefully it picks up for the Upper Bracket in an hour.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Sibiryak
Profile Joined April 2008
111 Posts
September 07 2024 16:10 GMT
#47
The same again and again/ Reynor is a fucking clown
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 07 2024 16:17 GMT
#48
On September 08 2024 01:10 Sibiryak wrote:
The same again and again/ Reynor is a fucking clown

Let me get this right. He's a clown for winning with a well executed allin?
wat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 07 2024 16:28 GMT
#49
I Always Like it when a unit is called Bad or bait and then Players discover it actually has good uses (often Happens with zergs )
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 07 2024 17:27 GMT
#50
Alrighty. Reynor v Clem bo5 tomorrow secure for the Upper Bracket Final.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-07 17:44:25
September 07 2024 17:44 GMT
#51
Back to back matches with our KR buddies. Let's see how they do. Gonna be a tough road to claw out of the basement.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
BeoMulf
Profile Joined January 2014
United States86 Posts
September 07 2024 18:10 GMT
#52
Game 1 of harstem solar game 1 was such a banger hot damn
Find me at twitch.tv/beomulf
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
161 Posts
September 07 2024 18:54 GMT
#53
On September 08 2024 01:10 Sibiryak wrote:
The same again and again/ Reynor is a fucking clown


Don’t be hating and jelly of Reynor entertainment
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 07 2024 19:02 GMT
#54
On September 08 2024 03:54 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2024 01:10 Sibiryak wrote:
The same again and again/ Reynor is a fucking clown


Don’t be hating and jelly of Reynor entertainment

What entertainment/clownishness did I miss?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-07 19:51:59
September 07 2024 19:46 GMT
#55
Haha! Wow, gg, Lambo. What a cute closeout by a big brain player. Lambo is really maturing into such a good community guy.

Solar translating is neat. ;]

See yas tomorrow.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1104 Posts
September 07 2024 20:04 GMT
#56
Some entertaining games today. Lovely tournament.
Mutation complete.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 08 2024 10:31 GMT
#57
Games started already despite schedule saying they start in 2 hours.

Production is good overall but seems odd to have late changes in the schedule.
wat
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 08 2024 11:52 GMT
#58
Seems like Lambo is really lacking Larva. I think he would've won a few minutes ago if he was able to remax instantly - he's still in a strong position though.
wat
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
September 08 2024 11:57 GMT
#59
Oliveira would have won this if he hadn't forgot to build medivacs for 3 minutes straight up, terrible macro.
And getting constantly caught off guard by Lambo engagement wasn't nice either.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 08 2024 12:02 GMT
#60
On September 08 2024 19:31 EquilasH wrote:
Games started already despite schedule saying they start in 2 hours.

Production is good overall but seems odd to have late changes in the schedule.

That would seem odd to move around like that, maybe a time zone screwup?

Finally getting to tune in, production is quite tasty, decent game from Lambk there!

It’s something you don’t really miss until it’s not there, having some other casters on a main stream rather than the usual suspects is nice, I’m digging it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33238 Posts
September 08 2024 12:16 GMT
#61
I'm aggressively against Weibo having a green uniform line. Orange is the furthest I'm willing to allow as a color/accent.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 12:21:29
September 08 2024 12:18 GMT
#62
On September 08 2024 21:02 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2024 19:31 EquilasH wrote:
Games started already despite schedule saying they start in 2 hours.

Production is good overall but seems odd to have late changes in the schedule.

That would seem odd to move around like that, maybe a time zone screwup?

Finally getting to tune in, production is quite tasty, decent game from Lambk there!

It’s something you don’t really miss until it’s not there, having some other casters on a main stream rather than the usual suspects is nice, I’m digging it.

[image loading]

Bulgaria should be GMT+2 and I tuned in at 12:30 GMT+2 (2 games had already finished at that point).

Edit: Image didn't work but here's the link: https://imgur.com/a/k3Uuorc

Edit 2: Apparently Bulgaria is GMT+3, which would mean they only started 1.5 hrs ahead of schedule, and not 2.5 like I thought.
wat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 08 2024 12:23 GMT
#63
With the brackets we Had i'd say this is a very expected top 4.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10046 Posts
September 08 2024 12:33 GMT
#64
wow Showtime 3-0 Solar? how was the series????!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 12:36:42
September 08 2024 12:34 GMT
#65
lol Random vs Random incoming!
edit: + Show Spoiler +
they both rolled their main races :D
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 08 2024 12:39 GMT
#66
On September 08 2024 21:33 Topin wrote:
wow Showtime 3-0 Solar? how was the series????!

Only caught the last game. Quite entertaining - Showtime played very well.
wat
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 08 2024 12:40 GMT
#67
You know with lambo recently talking about how hard it is to Take the third vs clem in time i wondered how good it would be to Take the 3rd Base Position as the 2nd and then the third at the Natural as that should be easier to get Queens to.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10046 Posts
September 08 2024 13:07 GMT
#68
crazy g2!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 08 2024 13:07 GMT
#69
What an insane game. These two playing against each other has really only produced great games lately.
wat
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 08 2024 13:50 GMT
#70
On September 08 2024 02:44 Gescom wrote:
Back to back matches with our KR buddies. Let's see how they do. Gonna be a tough road to claw out of the basement.

And just like that, they're gone. :O
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 08 2024 14:54 GMT
#71
And just like that protoss is ded.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10046 Posts
September 08 2024 15:30 GMT
#72
Oli pretty strong!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 16:09:11
September 08 2024 16:03 GMT
#73
What a grindy game 2.

Thought Reynor had no chance after he gifted all his broodlords but he still almost dragged his way back into it.

Would like to see him play more proactively.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2622 Posts
September 08 2024 16:03 GMT
#74
I'm digging this new Reynor vs Oliveira rivalry.
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2622 Posts
September 08 2024 16:18 GMT
#75
I think Nydus Lurker really is just a bit too strong late game
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 16:23:54
September 08 2024 16:23 GMT
#76
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 08 2024 16:24 GMT
#77
Oli Clem finals pretty neat. A clash between world champions, and a good test of TvT for Clem after that was missing from his EWC resume.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 08 2024 16:25 GMT
#78
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

because reynor just aint very good vs the more passive terran weho play to drag the game out, serral excels there.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3228 Posts
September 08 2024 16:25 GMT
#79
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

Reynor ZvT lategame has always been a question mark, he just tries to force Clem to play the mid-game which Clem tends to accept the challenge.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 16:27:50
September 08 2024 16:27 GMT
#80
On September 09 2024 01:25 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

because reynor just aint very good vs the more passive terran weho play to drag the game out, serral excels there.


That's what I mean though? Why let the games take that shape? There are plenty of tools to try change the way it pans out and Reynor's certainly not incapable of trying them. If your late game isn't quite going to cut it commit more to midgame plans.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3381 Posts
September 08 2024 16:31 GMT
#81
On September 09 2024 01:27 Asha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 01:25 darklycid wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

because reynor just aint very good vs the more passive terran weho play to drag the game out, serral excels there.


That's what I mean though? Why let the games take that shape? There are plenty of tools to try change the way it pans out and Reynor's certainly not incapable of trying them. If your late game isn't quite going to cut it commit more to midgame plans.

I dont think he feels like he has the tools to break those terrans in the midgame to later midgame. At least thats what it looked like so far and i think he also voiced that opinion.
Pognon
Profile Joined July 2014
France5 Posts
September 08 2024 16:50 GMT
#82
Congratulations for what is already an awesome tournament, I'm enjoying it a lot! The energy, the hosts, the general atmosphere - awesome really.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden669 Posts
September 08 2024 17:09 GMT
#83
Agree, the event has been awsome to watch. Hopeing for a banger finals to top it off
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
161 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-08 17:18:14
September 08 2024 17:17 GMT
#84
On September 09 2024 01:31 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 01:27 Asha wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:25 darklycid wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

because reynor just aint very good vs the more passive terran weho play to drag the game out, serral excels there.


That's what I mean though? Why let the games take that shape? There are plenty of tools to try change the way it pans out and Reynor's certainly not incapable of trying them. If your late game isn't quite going to cut it commit more to midgame plans.

I dont think he feels like he has the tools to break those terrans in the midgame to later midgame. At least thats what it looked like so far and i think he also voiced that opinion.


Reynor has voiced multiple times that ghosts are an embarrassment. Also I don’t blame him. Late game terran are just way too hard to break and has all the tools to win. Scans and mules are absolute disgrace late game when maps are split or when both side fighting for expansions

Hope Oliveria wins this tournament. Dude needs something good happen to him

User was warned for this post.
Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa269 Posts
September 08 2024 17:30 GMT
#85
On September 09 2024 01:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
I think Nydus Lurker really is just a bit too strong late game


Serious question, what level of lategame power / mobility do you think would look fair against a race that has ghosts, when all your units are biological?

Because if your take away from current lategame TvZ is that any of the Zerg tools look a little overtuned, then I have some questions.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
115 Posts
September 08 2024 17:31 GMT
#86
On September 09 2024 02:17 Blitzball04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 01:31 darklycid wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:27 Asha wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:25 darklycid wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:23 Asha wrote:
I don't really understand how Reynor has so much success playing proactive games against Clem but ends up letting himself get stuck in far more passive ones against Oli.

Ah well, should be a good TvT.

because reynor just aint very good vs the more passive terran weho play to drag the game out, serral excels there.


That's what I mean though? Why let the games take that shape? There are plenty of tools to try change the way it pans out and Reynor's certainly not incapable of trying them. If your late game isn't quite going to cut it commit more to midgame plans.

I dont think he feels like he has the tools to break those terrans in the midgame to later midgame. At least thats what it looked like so far and i think he also voiced that opinion.


Reynor has voiced multiple times that ghosts are an embarrassment. Also I don’t blame him. Late game terran are just way too hard to break and has all the tools to win. Scans and mules are absolute disgrace late game when maps are split or when both side fighting for expansions

Hope Oliveria wins this tournament. Dude needs something good happen to him

Reynor also keeps mocking terrans who "camp" - so are terrans supposed to not go late game so it would suit him? Also one of the big reasons why ghosts are like they are now was because of zerg buffs, they made Ultras strong with like 7 armor and not to mention lurkers. Should we nerf the shooting range of Queens as well because it was buffed against banshees and liberators? If scans and mules are a "disgrace" the nerf creep for real this time too (not the faux nerf that did nothing)
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2622 Posts
September 08 2024 17:43 GMT
#87
On September 09 2024 02:30 Ciaus237 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 01:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
I think Nydus Lurker really is just a bit too strong late game


Serious question, what level of lategame power / mobility do you think would look fair against a race that has ghosts, when all your units are biological?

Because if your take away from current lategame TvZ is that any of the Zerg tools look a little overtuned, then I have some questions.

I think complaints about ghosts late game are fair. I would be open to changing ghosts to be light, maybe with a slight hp buff to balance.

Regardless, I still think nydus lurker is too strong. If a nydus goes up in the main and enough lurkers get out, it's just game ending. I get that nukes can also be "game ending", but the average nydus does much more potential to do critical damage, rather than a hail mary type case with a nuke.
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa269 Posts
September 08 2024 17:49 GMT
#88
On September 09 2024 02:43 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 02:30 Ciaus237 wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
I think Nydus Lurker really is just a bit too strong late game


Serious question, what level of lategame power / mobility do you think would look fair against a race that has ghosts, when all your units are biological?

Because if your take away from current lategame TvZ is that any of the Zerg tools look a little overtuned, then I have some questions.

I think complaints about ghosts late game are fair. I would be open to changing ghosts to be light, maybe with a slight hp buff to balance.

Regardless, I still think nydus lurker is too strong. If a nydus goes up in the main and enough lurkers get out, it's just game ending. I get that nukes can also be "game ending", but the average nydus does much more potential to do critical damage, rather than a hail mary type case with a nuke.


Once the game goes late, hail mary moves and Terran way overcommitting are the only way Zerg wins at all. And with the burrow infestor nerfs, one of the main ways of catching a Terran sleeping is already worse.

Besides, 1 well placed tank in your production can shut that move down forever.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9139 Posts
September 08 2024 17:52 GMT
#89
How much does a plane ticket from Korea to Bulgaria cost? I wonder how much Stats has won/lost by coming here.
You're now breathing manually
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
September 08 2024 17:52 GMT
#90
On September 09 2024 02:49 Ciaus237 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 02:43 Brutaxilos wrote:
On September 09 2024 02:30 Ciaus237 wrote:
On September 09 2024 01:18 Brutaxilos wrote:
I think Nydus Lurker really is just a bit too strong late game


Serious question, what level of lategame power / mobility do you think would look fair against a race that has ghosts, when all your units are biological?

Because if your take away from current lategame TvZ is that any of the Zerg tools look a little overtuned, then I have some questions.

I think complaints about ghosts late game are fair. I would be open to changing ghosts to be light, maybe with a slight hp buff to balance.

Regardless, I still think nydus lurker is too strong. If a nydus goes up in the main and enough lurkers get out, it's just game ending. I get that nukes can also be "game ending", but the average nydus does much more potential to do critical damage, rather than a hail mary type case with a nuke.


Once the game goes late, hail mary moves and Terran way overcommitting are the only way Zerg wins at all. And with the burrow infestor nerfs, one of the main ways of catching a Terran sleeping is already worse.

Besides, 1 well placed tank in your production can shut that move down forever.

Serral is beating every terran bar Clem easily in lategame without relying on hail mary moves. Are we watching the same game?

And 1 tank doesn't really shut it down because there will always be free spaces to exploit or the tank dead zone. The way to shut it down is Vikings, Sensor towers and turrets so Zerg has no way of getting vision
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 08 2024 18:06 GMT
#91
Alrighty... we got a bo5. Man that break was way too long. :D
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10046 Posts
September 08 2024 18:40 GMT
#92
Clem just too good? Oli on the ropes
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
September 08 2024 18:41 GMT
#93
Clem is just way too locked in right now.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
September 08 2024 18:55 GMT
#94
Not a fan of this +1 map system.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38157 Posts
September 08 2024 18:58 GMT
#95
On September 09 2024 03:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Not a fan of this +1 map system.


Not sure it really made a difference tbh
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 08 2024 18:58 GMT
#96
GG Clem! 2 in a row. ^^
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 08 2024 18:59 GMT
#97
GGs Clam, and I really thoroughly enjoyed what I saw of this tournament too, props to those who organised it and made it happen and run!
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HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
September 08 2024 19:00 GMT
#98
On September 09 2024 03:58 Asha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 03:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Not a fan of this +1 map system.


Not sure it really made a difference tbh

I dis not really care who won. I prefer honest bo7, this feels always a bit off to me.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3336 Posts
September 08 2024 19:05 GMT
#99
I forgot Clem won the weekly cup in between EWC and this as well. His Aligulac ELO is starting to get pretty spooky!
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9139 Posts
September 08 2024 19:06 GMT
#100
Clem is such a beast
You're now breathing manually
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17628 Posts
September 08 2024 19:10 GMT
#101
On September 09 2024 04:00 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2024 03:58 Asha wrote:
On September 09 2024 03:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Not a fan of this +1 map system.


Not sure it really made a difference tbh

I dis not really care who won. I prefer honest bo7, this feels always a bit off to me.

IDK it feels fair to me, but I always prefer to see more games anyways lol
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33238 Posts
September 08 2024 19:26 GMT
#102
pretty insane peak run from Clem right here

what's next on the schedule?
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 08 2024 19:26 GMT
#103
On September 09 2024 04:06 Sent. wrote:
Clem is such a beast

Truly.

Oliveira’s starting to look a bit more consistently dangerous too of late. His EWC performance was a lot better than his placement ended up being, but hey that can happen with the worst format any big SC2 tourney has ever used
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6830 Posts
September 09 2024 08:27 GMT
#104
Congratz Clem! His Aligulac is pretty close to Serrals now and 200-300 points above the 3rd place depending on MU
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24512 Posts
September 09 2024 08:39 GMT
#105
On September 09 2024 17:27 Harris1st wrote:
Congratz Clem! His Aligulac is pretty close to Serrals now and 200-300 points above the 3rd place depending on MU

Absolute monster mode no doubt, but what’s Serral’s Aligulac rating look like if he also played weeklies on the regular?

Definitely adds a lot of intrigue if we get another circuit year in the bag anyway. Clem’s finally showcasing peak Clem in the biggest tournaments going, and consistently from tournament to tournament.

Can he keep it up? Can Serral (or others) go cook something in the laboratory to find an answer?
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