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[GSL 2023] Code S:Season 3 - Group D

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-18 19:16:42
October 18 2023 19:15 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Thursday, Oct 19 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2023/Season 3

Streams & Casters


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Format

  • Played Online.
  • Dual Tournament Format.
  • All matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the Group Stage 2.

      Map Pool



Group D


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(T)GuMiho vs (Z)soO

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(P)herO vs (P)Classic

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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
October 18 2023 21:15 GMT
#2
Ok i don't see soO making it unfortunately, we can get 1 more Protoss to advance right?

Oh yeah i'd love to see some Cyclone mech play, though it didn't seem Gumiho was doing much of that.

I could see Classic advancing over herO.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17664 Posts
October 19 2023 09:58 GMT
#3
ok so this build just can't survive a rush lol
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15914 Posts
October 19 2023 10:14 GMT
#4
Such a shame, soO played so well and then lost because he didn't spend his money (2k/1k in the bank)
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17664 Posts
October 19 2023 11:45 GMT
#5
Gumigod!
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
October 19 2023 11:45 GMT
#6
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GUMIGOD is back!
Great series between those two.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12775 Posts
October 19 2023 11:45 GMT
#7
GuMiho played pretty well, ggs
WriterMaru
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1068 Posts
October 19 2023 11:46 GMT
#8
nice play from the gumigod
highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
October 19 2023 11:49 GMT
#9
TvP going 9-1 in GSL with this match. The last patch apparently did nothing thanks to the unwarranted disruptor nerf.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12775 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-19 13:03:45
October 19 2023 13:03 GMT
#10
I looked away for 2 minutes after herO saw some DT, but had a 30 supply advantage, and now he has lost? What a choke is that? Poor herO, the best protoss in the world online, but still can't bring it offline these last few months.
congratulations Classic though, rematch curse strikes again
WriterMaru
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
October 19 2023 14:07 GMT
#11
So awesome to see Classic go through. Also hyped for Gumigod.

ro8 looks so sick

(T)Cure
(T)GuMiho
(T)Bunny
(Z)Dark
(Z)Solar
(Z)DRG
(P)Creator
(P)Classic

Cure and Dark seems like clear favorites
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 19 2023 19:12 GMT
#12
On October 19 2023 23:07 SmoKim wrote:
So awesome to see Classic go through. Also hyped for Gumigod.

ro8 looks so sick

(T)Cure
(T)GuMiho
(T)Bunny
(Z)Dark
(Z)Solar
(Z)DRG
(P)Creator
(P)Classic

Cure and Dark seems like clear favorites

they do, but I think Solar has been looking really strong lately too. doesn't lose ZvZ either.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-19 20:53:54
October 19 2023 20:51 GMT
#13
On October 19 2023 20:49 highsis wrote:
TvP going 9-1 in GSL with this match. The last patch apparently did nothing thanks to the unwarranted disruptor nerf.

Yeah, I've generally been quite happy with the gameplay and balance post-patch, but TvP seems to be in a truly dire place. The ghost and Raven nerfs did their job, but the disruptor nerfs seem to have opened up a whole new can of beans (plus widow mine drops sucking as usual). I wonder if there's anything that can be done by the balance council.

Sad to see herO go out like this, but we'll see how Classic and Creator do as the Great Protoss Hope this time around. They're both playing quite well these days, and I would love to see either of them go far. Cure and Gumiho are both deserving champs tho imo, and seem more likely.
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Athenau
Profile Joined March 2015
569 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-19 21:38:25
October 19 2023 21:37 GMT
#14
I said it in the previous thread, but undo both disruptor nerfs (supply and radius) and just make it so that players get some sort of warning when they're targeted by a disruptor.

The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender.
highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
October 20 2023 02:06 GMT
#15
On October 20 2023 06:37 Athenau wrote:
I said it in the previous thread, but undo both disruptor nerfs (supply and radius) and just make it so that players get some sort of warning when they're targeted by a disruptor.

The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender.


Good idea.

I think minimap's visual warning can be good with a red mark to avoid audio visual spamming or only warn when novas are fired outside of player's vision.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
October 20 2023 02:18 GMT
#16
While I think it was insane to nerf them without giving Toss any significant buff I don't think reverting both nerfs would be good. I'd prefer just reverting the supply nerf and shield battery nerf. Toss just dies so easily to so many things without good batteries.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-20 05:41:58
October 20 2023 05:40 GMT
#17
Game 2 of Hero vs Gumiho shows EXACTLY what's wrong with Protoss and why it's the hardest race.

No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret?

And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL.

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Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1148 Posts
October 20 2023 14:14 GMT
#18
On October 20 2023 06:37 Athenau wrote:
I said it in the previous thread, but undo both disruptor nerfs (supply and radius) and just make it so that players get some sort of warning when they're targeted by a disruptor.

The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender.

Yes. Good point. And analogous changes should be applied to the widow mine. Its nature is similar to that of the disruptor, except that it is cheaper and it hits earlier.
Mutation complete.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2216 Posts
October 20 2023 14:39 GMT
#19
I don't get why every minor protoss buff has to come with some nerf like with disruptors. Is the balance team blind to Toss getting bangganged in every high level tournament everywhere or what? Classic and Creator in the ro8 lmao the protoss hope with an aligulac chance of advancing of presumably 0,15%

pls buff i want 3 races in GSL
Cogito, ergo Toss
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3366 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-20 16:08:15
October 20 2023 16:07 GMT
#20
On October 20 2023 14:40 [Phantom] wrote:
Game 2 of Hero vs Gumiho shows EXACTLY what's wrong with Protoss and why it's the hardest race.

No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret?

And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL.

herO has been "off" in GSL since winning the championship a year ago. He throws constantly, so I'm not sure it's fair at this point to say "herO is way better than Classic". With a bit of bracket luck, Classic could do well.
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