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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
Oh yeah i'd love to see some Cyclone mech play, though it didn't seem Gumiho was doing much of that. I could see Classic advancing over herO. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17664 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15914 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17664 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
GUMIGOD is back! | ||
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Poopi
France12775 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1068 Posts
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highsis
259 Posts
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Poopi
France12775 Posts
congratulations Classic though, rematch curse strikes again | ||
SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
ro8 looks so sick ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cure and Dark seems like clear favorites | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On October 19 2023 23:07 SmoKim wrote: So awesome to see Classic go through. Also hyped for Gumigod. ro8 looks so sick ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cure and Dark seems like clear favorites they do, but I think Solar has been looking really strong lately too. doesn't lose ZvZ either. | ||
Captain Peabody
United States3099 Posts
On October 19 2023 20:49 highsis wrote: TvP going 9-1 in GSL with this match. The last patch apparently did nothing thanks to the unwarranted disruptor nerf. Yeah, I've generally been quite happy with the gameplay and balance post-patch, but TvP seems to be in a truly dire place. The ghost and Raven nerfs did their job, but the disruptor nerfs seem to have opened up a whole new can of beans (plus widow mine drops sucking as usual). I wonder if there's anything that can be done by the balance council. Sad to see herO go out like this, but we'll see how Classic and Creator do as the Great Protoss Hope this time around. They're both playing quite well these days, and I would love to see either of them go far. Cure and Gumiho are both deserving champs tho imo, and seem more likely. | ||
Athenau
569 Posts
The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender. | ||
highsis
259 Posts
On October 20 2023 06:37 Athenau wrote: I said it in the previous thread, but undo both disruptor nerfs (supply and radius) and just make it so that players get some sort of warning when they're targeted by a disruptor. The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender. Good idea. I think minimap's visual warning can be good with a red mark to avoid audio visual spamming or only warn when novas are fired outside of player's vision. | ||
JJH777
United States4400 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret? And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL. | ||
Antithesis
Germany1148 Posts
On October 20 2023 06:37 Athenau wrote: I said it in the previous thread, but undo both disruptor nerfs (supply and radius) and just make it so that players get some sort of warning when they're targeted by a disruptor. The problem with the unit was never its raw strength, it was attention asymmetry between the attacker and the defender. Yes. Good point. And analogous changes should be applied to the widow mine. Its nature is similar to that of the disruptor, except that it is cheaper and it hits earlier. | ||
SharkStarcraft
Austria2216 Posts
pls buff i want 3 races in GSL ![]() | ||
Gescom
Canada3366 Posts
On October 20 2023 14:40 [Phantom] wrote: Game 2 of Hero vs Gumiho shows EXACTLY what's wrong with Protoss and why it's the hardest race. No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret? And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL. herO has been "off" in GSL since winning the championship a year ago. He throws constantly, so I'm not sure it's fair at this point to say "herO is way better than Classic". With a bit of bracket luck, Classic could do well. | ||
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Poopi
France12775 Posts
On October 21 2023 01:07 Gescom wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2023 14:40 [Phantom] wrote: Game 2 of Hero vs Gumiho shows EXACTLY what's wrong with Protoss and why it's the hardest race. No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret? And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL. herO has been "off" in GSL since winning the championship a year ago. He throws constantly, so I'm not sure it's fair at this point to say "herO is way better than Classic". With a bit of bracket luck, Classic could do well. Classic has done better than herO at most offline events afaik. But herO plays in a lot of online tournaments, where he does well, so his aligulac rating is better than Classic. I think both Creator and Classic have a decent shot to win this GSL tbh, if they can avoid Cure. Every other opponent seems beatable: Dark relies a lot on cheese/allins in ZvP nowadays, he seems beatable, while other players are good draws for the two protosses. | ||
ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On October 21 2023 01:29 ShowTheLights wrote: Is GSL on its last legs? Barely 2 page thread its kinda sad Says more about TL than GSL | ||
Gescom
Canada3366 Posts
On October 21 2023 01:19 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2023 01:07 Gescom wrote: On October 20 2023 14:40 [Phantom] wrote: Game 2 of Hero vs Gumiho shows EXACTLY what's wrong with Protoss and why it's the hardest race. No matter how good you play, protoss has too many insta lose scenarios. Hero outplayed him all game and then he loses a warp prism and isnta loses. Or how many games are decided because zerg get 2 units past the wall? Or a nydus insta kills a protoss, even when scouted, or protoss just dies because they scouted their DTs and put 1 turret? And lets be honest, Hero is way better than classic, so that doesn't bode well for the Protoss the rest of the GSL. herO has been "off" in GSL since winning the championship a year ago. He throws constantly, so I'm not sure it's fair at this point to say "herO is way better than Classic". With a bit of bracket luck, Classic could do well. Classic has done better than herO at most offline events afaik. But herO plays in a lot of online tournaments, where he does well, so his aligulac rating is better than Classic. I think both Creator and Classic have a decent shot to win this GSL tbh, if they can avoid Cure. Every other opponent seems beatable: Dark relies a lot on cheese/allins in ZvP nowadays, he seems beatable, while other players are good draws for the two protosses. Strongly agree. I don't know what the ro8 brackets are yet, but if some T/Z can snipe Cure or something like that, a reasonable path is there. Really this GSL broke wide open when Scarlett beat Maru. Haha!! Or, <dreaming> a Protoss champion rises up with some new patch saved builds and Classic 3-0's Cure in the next round. I'd love to see it. edit -- brackets are up, they look decent; ![]() | ||
Topin
Peru10055 Posts
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tigera6
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Agh
United States915 Posts
On October 21 2023 01:29 ShowTheLights wrote: Is GSL on its last legs? Barely 2 page thread its kinda sad As the other guy that quoted you said this is more of a TL thing. Yes SC2 playerbase and viewership is but a tiny fraction of what it used to be but the matches are being played early morning for most English speakers (this site), so you aren't really going to have much action for a Tourney/LR thread. Me personally I go through the games on youtube after they are played when I have time, occasionally catching a match here and there live - but honestly the vod is better as you can avoid the mid match lulls and advertisements. As for the games for this group: I think overconfidence got the best of herO. Really sucks to almost take first and get knocked out but trying to 1 base site delta pvp in the last set was questionable to say the least. I think both him and Maru need to do what Creator did and just take a step back and reconsider their approach for these sets. Too many on the fly decisions that are either just low percentage plays to begin with or simply leave them too far behind. | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
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