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On August 06 2023 01:05 Argonauta wrote:
This is the exact same way he lost to gumiho in GSL tbf.... I am baffled he still does this openings
Gumiho was at least doing some inspired off the wall shit that you can understand why Maru would get thrown off by.
Clem is doing the same exact shit that Maru has seen 1000x on ladder. Maru is just not respecting it and gambling by either going extra greedy and not scouting or trying to do a cute move that backfires on him.
If you watch how Maru came back against Cure in GSL just this last season, it looked a lot like that for the first 2 games and then he got serious, played safe and then beat Cure straight up in regular boring ass macro TvT.
This isn't a capability problem. Maru has the capability of beating anyone in this game straight up in a defensive macro game, even if he has to do it from a little behind economically. He's not losing those games, he's losing games because he keeps getting caught over extending or caught gambling with excessive greed.
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On August 06 2023 01:07 Slydie wrote:
I think Maru just needs more time to prepare to play his best. It is a "you know that I know that you know" scenario, and it seemed like Clem had just done his homework a lot better on Maru than visa versa, and Maru got smoked.
If they met with one week to prepare for that match only, Maru would probably have outsmarted Clem more.
Maru does not seem that confident nor comfortable in foreign weekenders either, they are different beasts!
He has all the preparation in his head in term of build and timing, its just about making the sound decision and adjustment in game, which something he completely fail to do a couple times already.
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On August 06 2023 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2023 01:05 Argonauta wrote:
This is the exact same way he lost to gumiho in GSL tbf.... I am baffled he still does this openings Gumiho was at least doing some inspired off the wall shit that you can understand why Maru would get thrown off by. Clem is doing the same exact shit that Maru has seen 1000x on ladder. Maru is just not respecting it and gambling by either going extra greedy and not scouting or trying to do a cute move that backfires on him. If you watch how Maru came back against Cure in GSL just this last season, it looked a lot like that for the first 2 games and then he got serious, played safe and then beat Cure straight up in regular boring ass macro TvT. This isn't a capability problem. Maru has the capability of beating anyone in this game straight up in a defensive macro game, even if he has to do it from a little behind economically. He's not losing those games, he's losing games because he keeps getting caught over extending or caught gambling with excessive greed.
that is my point but with more words
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On August 06 2023 01:11 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2023 01:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On August 06 2023 01:05 Argonauta wrote:
This is the exact same way he lost to gumiho in GSL tbf.... I am baffled he still does this openings Gumiho was at least doing some inspired off the wall shit that you can understand why Maru would get thrown off by. Clem is doing the same exact shit that Maru has seen 1000x on ladder. Maru is just not respecting it and gambling by either going extra greedy and not scouting or trying to do a cute move that backfires on him. If you watch how Maru came back against Cure in GSL just this last season, it looked a lot like that for the first 2 games and then he got serious, played safe and then beat Cure straight up in regular boring ass macro TvT. This isn't a capability problem. Maru has the capability of beating anyone in this game straight up in a defensive macro game, even if he has to do it from a little behind economically. He's not losing those games, he's losing games because he keeps getting caught over extending or caught gambling with excessive greed. that is my point but with more words. Edit: I mean the last paragraph
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On August 06 2023 01:10 Argonauta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2023 01:07 tigera6 wrote:On August 06 2023 01:01 NotSoHappy wrote:On August 06 2023 00:58 Fango wrote:On August 06 2023 00:57 Creager wrote:On August 06 2023 00:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
It is so baffingly predictable at this point. Just fucking play the game straight up Maru. Stop donating series because you are so fucking desperate for some reason to get them over with early.
I have lost count of how many tournaments he's done this in. I really start to wonder if he does this out of disrespect for his opponents or because for some unwarranted reason he's not confident in his lategame. I don't think he has any real openings outside of when he preps for GSL. This is just how he plays. That's why I think he just disrespects his opponents, because he would fix his builds for the weekenders. Especially for that amount of money. To be fair, Clem read Maru like a book in that last game. NOBODY else in the world would put 3 Viking and 2 Raven into each corner of the map to intercept a potential Viking/Raven/Medivac flying by. But Maru need to play much more carefully, just send unit out around and scout, dont rush out if you dont know where Clem army is, or his 3rd CC timing. His opening has been like against CPU most of the time. Its almost as if Clem took the time to prepare for Maru and Maru disrespected him
Well, its only considered as "disrespect" if Maru give Clem that treatment. He does the same to everyone and thats why he has lost because people has slowly adapted to that. They know Maru will have a quick 3CC, 2 EBay, delay production, while trying to send a medivac or a couple of Raven for harassments. Clem just punish him today, like Gumiho did before, and he still hasnt learn a F.
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Shit, are cargo pants really back?
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France12971 Posts
On August 06 2023 01:13 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2023 01:10 Argonauta wrote:On August 06 2023 01:07 tigera6 wrote:On August 06 2023 01:01 NotSoHappy wrote:On August 06 2023 00:58 Fango wrote:On August 06 2023 00:57 Creager wrote:On August 06 2023 00:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
It is so baffingly predictable at this point. Just fucking play the game straight up Maru. Stop donating series because you are so fucking desperate for some reason to get them over with early.
I have lost count of how many tournaments he's done this in. I really start to wonder if he does this out of disrespect for his opponents or because for some unwarranted reason he's not confident in his lategame. I don't think he has any real openings outside of when he preps for GSL. This is just how he plays. That's why I think he just disrespects his opponents, because he would fix his builds for the weekenders. Especially for that amount of money. To be fair, Clem read Maru like a book in that last game. NOBODY else in the world would put 3 Viking and 2 Raven into each corner of the map to intercept a potential Viking/Raven/Medivac flying by. But Maru need to play much more carefully, just send unit out around and scout, dont rush out if you dont know where Clem army is, or his 3rd CC timing. His opening has been like against CPU most of the time. Its almost as if Clem took the time to prepare for Maru and Maru disrespected him Well, its only considered as "disrespect" if Maru give Clem that treatment. He does the same to everyone and thats why he has lost because people has slowly adapted to that. They know Maru will have a quick 3CC, 2 EBay, delay production, while trying to send a medivac or a couple of Raven for harassments. Clem just punish him today, like Gumiho did before.
Yeah I don’t think Maru disrespects Clem, his TvT has just become that bad
Interested to see what ByuN has in store for Reynor. Reynor ZvP looked bad but his ZvT is probably still scary?
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what is the story behing "no handshake"?
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Raynor vs ByuN casted by Tastosis, yumyum
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just something cheeky from Byun, he does that to everyone.
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Aaaaand just like this Artosis cursed...
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We have a really good chance for another ZvZ finals tomorrow.
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On August 06 2023 00:59 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2023 00:58 Mizenhauer wrote:On August 06 2023 00:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 06 2023 00:56 Poopi wrote:On August 06 2023 00:55 BelethielQT wrote:
Poopi malding rn At least I can stop watching right now and do something else earlier than expected TL writers in 2023, lol Define writer. Person who dabble in written gibberish?
After reviewing one of my upcoming articles, I found that this checks out.
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Marus disrespecting is the new excuse for losing
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On August 06 2023 01:19 BelethielQT wrote:
Marus disrespecting is the new excuse for losing
Maru disrespected Clem by being jetlagged.
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Hot take here: Maru lost because he was not as good as his opponent today
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This is only comparable to Dark losing 22 drones to two banshees
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Reynor making g1 look like he's laddering
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EPT
