EPT[GSL 2023] Code S:Season 1 - Ro8 - Group A - Page 2
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tigera6
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
On May 09 2023 21:25 darklycid wrote: Expected results tbh classic aint ready for the top players yet. DIsappointing to have no toss anymore tho :/ I don't play anymore but i do watch GSL. Seems to me that toss in general just don't have anything to deal with terrans arsenal. They are literally nerfed to the ground now. They struggle to engage tanks Ravens knock out their top units It just seems terran don't really have a weakness vs protoss and most games look hilariously one sided. Maybe i am missing something but all these GSL games look so one sided (not just classic but this entire season). Watching maru roll up with tanks knowing he can't be engaged because he has raven energy is so strong.. I know your meant to engage mid map but when he's dropping for 90% of the game no wonder you feel pinned. Would love to see somebody break this terran domination but i doubt it will ever happen without a patch or something. | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom835 Posts
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
Props to State though! Good synergy with Tasteless | ||
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tigera6
3221 Posts
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darklycid
3375 Posts
On May 09 2023 22:17 tigera6 wrote: I mean, what is the reason for this shift in PvT balance? Everything pretty much stay the same as previous mechanics-wise, is it the nerf on Battery Overcharge? Or maybe the Ghost change that make EMP bigger without the upgrade cost? Or maybe the quicker shot from Viking making it hard to keep Colossi/Prism staying alive? Or its just all the above combined. I think a combination of all + at least for gsl there aint a good field of top toss (esp Not a consistent one). | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15880 Posts
On May 09 2023 22:17 tigera6 wrote: I mean, what is the reason for this shift in PvT balance? Everything pretty much stay the same as previous mechanics-wise, is it the nerf on Battery Overcharge? Or maybe the Ghost change that make EMP bigger without the upgrade cost? Or maybe the quicker shot from Viking making it hard to keep Colossi/Prism staying alive? Or its just all the above combined. all of the above combined + Disruptor nerf, Raven cost and build-time reduction (while leaving the main TvP spell unchanged) and Liberator cost reduction. The patch was just a massive net buff for terran in TvP | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On May 09 2023 22:07 MJG wrote: Classic simply isn't at the same level as Maru and Cure. I don't think that balance comes into it. Tough draw, go next. Never has been in Maru's case, even at Classic's peak when he was hands down the most dominant Protoss in GSL, once he ran into Maru in the Finals, Maru demolished him. It wasn't a close series at all. That was in a meta where Terran was weak too btw. Protoss representation in this GSL is 2 players who just recently got out of the military, Nightmare and Creator who are B tier GSL players at best and herO who isn't known for being ultra consistent. Compare that with the consistent excellence of players like Maru, Dark, Solar, Byun and the off and on again streaks of Gumiho, Bunny and Cure. It stinks that Protoss got wiped out so early, but honestly you can't draw a lot of balance conclusions because of it. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On May 10 2023 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote: Never has been in Maru's case, even at Classic's peak when he was hands down the most dominant Protoss in GSL, once he ran into Maru in the Finals, Maru demolished him. It wasn't a close series at all. That was in a meta where Terran was weak too btw. Protoss representation in this GSL is 2 players who just recently got out of the military, Nightmare and Creator who are B tier GSL players at best and herO who isn't known for being ultra consistent. Compare that with the consistent excellence of players like Maru, Dark, Solar, Byun and the off and on again streaks of Gumiho, Bunny and Cure. It stinks that Protoss got wiped out so early, but honestly you can't draw a lot of balance conclusions because of it. fair analysis imo. | ||
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Durnuu
13319 Posts
On May 10 2023 11:33 Vindicare605 wrote: Never has been in Maru's case, even at Classic's peak when he was hands down the most dominant Protoss in GSL, once he ran into Maru in the Finals, Maru demolished him. It wasn't a close series at all. That was in a meta where Terran was weak too btw. Protoss representation in this GSL is 2 players who just recently got out of the military, Nightmare and Creator who are B tier GSL players at best and herO who isn't known for being ultra consistent. Compare that with the consistent excellence of players like Maru, Dark, Solar, Byun and the off and on again streaks of Gumiho, Bunny and Cure. It stinks that Protoss got wiped out so early, but honestly you can't draw a lot of balance conclusions because of it. Are you really implying Classic's peak was 2019 lmao And that ByuN is consistent  | ||
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Elentos
55459 Posts
On May 10 2023 16:58 Durnuu wrote: Are you really implying Classic's peak was 2019 lmao And that ByuN is consistent Big fan of the consistent excellence of Solar who is in his first Ro8 since 2017 as well. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On May 10 2023 17:48 Elentos wrote: Big fan of the consistent excellence of Solar who is in his first Ro8 since 2017 as well. Solar has been a consistent performer in international events, especially against GSL level competition. | ||
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Elentos
55459 Posts
On May 10 2023 18:36 Vindicare605 wrote: Solar has been a consistent performer in international events, especially against GSL level competition. He has occasional hallmarks of excellence peaking out of years of being consistently middle of the pack with his last GSL Ro8 being from 6 years ago when Code S still had double the players. The idea that he's a standard of consistent excellence that herO can't stand up to is funny but not sustainable. | ||
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Gescom
Canada3325 Posts
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