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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 89

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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 20:40:37
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1761
On February 13 2023 05:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Is this Katowice the GOAT (Greatest of All Tournaments) ?


You know, at the end of Playoffs day 1 with 5 Zerg, 2 Terran and 1 Protoss I would never have expected this to even be a question.

Maybe it's recency bias, or the excitement frying my brain, but I can't think of any other that could be.

Katowice somehow manages to be routinely great.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3517 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1762
On February 13 2023 05:37 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Why his nickname is oliveira? Someone knows? Just curious as here in Brazil its a very common name

He named himself after an MMA dude. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Oliveira ?
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1965 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1763
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


Wow, Inno over Mvp, that's kinda bold
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1764
Huge congrats to TIME aka Oliveira.
What a dream run, what a great guy, fantastic Interview too, ty Smix.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1765
On February 13 2023 05:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Why his nickname is oliveira? Someone knows? Just curious as here in Brazil its a very common name

was wondering the same thing. There was a good belgian striker (of brazilian descent ofc) named Luis Oliveira too, but I doubt TIME loves soccer that much

It’s because of the MMA fighter, he confirmed it during signing session
WriterMaru
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1766
On February 13 2023 05:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Is this Katowice the GOAT (Greatest of All Tournaments) ?

cant say that IMO IEM doesnt have that much success in korea :p


Actually the one time they did an IEM in Korea it was a banger of a tournament if I remember correctly.

cherry picking now arent we
~~~~~
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1767
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp

hard to argue with the top 4 but I think there are quite a few players over Mvp like Zest, Stats, Dark, Life
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 20:40 GMT
#1768
On February 13 2023 05:39 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:36 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:35 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Is this Katowice the GOAT (Greatest of All Tournaments) ?

cant say that IMO IEM doesnt have that much success in korea :p


Actually the one time they did an IEM in Korea it was a banger of a tournament if I remember correctly.


Was the winter olympics one right that Scarlett somehow won. I remember getting up early to watch it in bed. Nothing beats Starcraft 2 at its best.


And TIME did really well in that one if we're talking about the same one.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
February 12 2023 20:41 GMT
#1769
On February 13 2023 05:40 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Why his nickname is oliveira? Someone knows? Just curious as here in Brazil its a very common name

He named himself after an MMA dude. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Oliveira ?

On February 13 2023 05:40 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:37 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Why his nickname is oliveira? Someone knows? Just curious as here in Brazil its a very common name

was wondering the same thing. There was a good belgian striker (of brazilian descent ofc) named Luis Oliveira too, but I doubt TIME loves soccer that much

It’s because of the MMA fighter, he confirmed it during signing session

thanks guys
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 12 2023 20:41 GMT
#1770
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


I can't disagree with this list.

Could probably argue maru/rogue either way, but I think this is accurate.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
dragunslayerxxx
Profile Joined February 2023
5 Posts
February 12 2023 20:41 GMT
#1771
Anyone know if this is real?

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/541176-times-controversial-comments
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 12 2023 20:41 GMT
#1772
logging in for the first time in like, 5 years to say that this was incredible to watch, i love this game
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
February 12 2023 20:42 GMT
#1773
On February 13 2023 05:40 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


Wow, Inno over Mvp, that's kinda bold

INno could have been 1st if he had a bit more motivation towards the end and Maru didn’t crush him in OSL, his talent is insane. His brother Gumayusi is super dominant as well in LoL
WriterMaru
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria335 Posts
February 12 2023 20:42 GMT
#1774
Smix crying me crying
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
February 12 2023 20:43 GMT
#1775
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


Zest or sOs should be included too as representative of Protoss player, I guess. Zest has many premier championships but never seriously discussed as a contender.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1965 Posts
February 12 2023 20:44 GMT
#1776
On February 13 2023 05:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:40 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


Wow, Inno over Mvp, that's kinda bold

INno could have been 1st if he had a bit more motivation towards the end and Maru didn’t crush him in OSL, his talent is insane. His brother Gumayusi is super dominant as well in LoL


Not arguing Inno's talent, but then you could also argue that Mvp could've been 1st if his body didn't give out.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 20:44 GMT
#1777
lmao
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 20:46:00
February 12 2023 20:45 GMT
#1778
On February 13 2023 05:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:40 Creager wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp


Wow, Inno over Mvp, that's kinda bold

INno could have been 1st if he had a bit more motivation towards the end and Maru didn’t crush him in OSL, his talent is insane. His brother Gumayusi is super dominant as well in LoL


I heard from Wax (twitter) that he is coming back . Don't know if it is just a rumor.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
dragunslayerxxx
Profile Joined February 2023
5 Posts
February 12 2023 20:45 GMT
#1779
On February 13 2023 05:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:38 Poopi wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:34 Sent. wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:32 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:31 Sent. wrote:
The GOAT debate will never be decided

looking at how things are in this IEM, now its Rogue to me. The guy just know how to win the big ones.


Rogue is my top 3 together with Maru and Serral. Each has their own, uncomparable reasons to call them greatest.

You're missing Mvp

1) Maru
2) Rogue
3) INno
4) Serral
5) Mvp

hard to argue with the top 4 but I think there are quite a few players over Mvp like Zest, Stats, Dark, Life


Who is Life?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
February 12 2023 20:45 GMT
#1780
On February 13 2023 05:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
lmao https://twitter.com/GGemini19/status/1624854406301904896

hahahaha
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