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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1706 Posts
Guaranteed he drops out RO16 next season User was warned for this post. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Poor jjakji. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
On October 08 2021 07:40 ShowTheLights wrote: One of the most undeserving GSL winners, who will be lost in history with the Roro's, Sniper's and Seed's of the world Guaranteed he drops out RO16 next season how the hell is he undeserving? He is one of the top terrans right now lol. | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Just depressing how Toss being denied once again despite having done all the heavy lifting (after taking down Rogue and Maru). Cure deserves his win, of course. But just rather sad, narrative wise. Like Gumiho denying soO. | ||
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Kitai
United States880 Posts
On October 08 2021 07:40 ShowTheLights wrote: One of the most undeserving GSL winners, who will be lost in history with the Roro's, Sniper's and Seed's of the world Guaranteed he drops out RO16 next season Definitely disagree. Cure's been playing very well lately and this is the 2nd consecutive year he made a GSL finals. He's been consistently grinding hard and winning a ton of the ESL weeklies as well, and his dedication finally paid off. I'm not going to pretend he's the greatest Terran ever or anything like that, but I think it's really unfair to call him undeserving. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
In the last game for example, while doing the second push all he needed to do has hit the SCV that was making the bunker, and he would win. Instead with the stalkers he was hitting the bunker itself, and other SCV literally doing nothing instead of the one building it. Not doing it let cure finish the bunker and win the game because as any Protons player from silver and up knows, if you don't have splash damage against Terran you lose. At least I'll still be able to say Protons hasn't won a GSL since four years ago when people keep complaining about how broken the race supposedly is. | ||
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Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
In the last game for example, while doing the second push all he needed to do has hit the SCV that was making the bunker, and he would win. Instead with the stalkers he was hitting the bunker itself, and other SCV literally doing nothing instead of the one building it. Not doing it let cure finish the bunker and win the game because as any Protons player from silver and up knows, if you don't have splash damage against Terran you lose. He still almost killed that bunker, at one point it was down to 2-3 hp | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
14 straight gsl's without a win and counting fuck sake.. | ||
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parksonsc
175 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
On October 08 2021 18:05 parksonsc wrote: I mean Cure is surely deserving but his run might have been one of the least impressive GSL wins of all time. He only beat Protoss, if he faced Rogue and especially Maru, there should have been ~0% chance he got through. well he just didn't beat some random Protosses. He defeated Parting, Trap and Zest and all of those 3 have insanely high win rate against Terrans. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On October 08 2021 18:05 parksonsc wrote: I mean Cure is surely deserving but his run might have been one of the least impressive GSL wins of all time. He only beat Protoss, if he faced Rogue and especially Maru, there should have been ~0% chance he got through. I actually think its the opposite, his run is all the more impressive that he managed to completely destroy the 3 most powerful protosses in his worst matchup. He just went super sayan and really defied all expectations. I mean Parting and Zest and even Trap usually eat Terrans for breakfast, and they just got stomped. Very impressed by Cure and fully deserved win. I feel like he is being diminished only because many people wanted Zest to win in his last GSL appearance, but he just didnt show up in the finals, happens to the best... | ||
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Poopi
France12907 Posts
Bracket luck is a thing in every tournament unless you rig the brackets in a certain way: it's very unlikely you will have to beat the best opponent of each race in every round. Plus, while he only played 1 match-up in the playoffs, he beat the best protosses in the world currently. Well deserved win | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On October 08 2021 22:40 MarianoSC2 wrote: I actually think its the opposite, his run is all the more impressive that he managed to completely destroy the 3 most powerful protosses in his worst matchup. He just went super sayan and really defied all expectations. I mean Parting and Zest and even Trap usually eat Terrans for breakfast, and they just got stomped. Very impressed by Cure and fully deserved win. I feel like he is being diminished only because many people wanted Zest to win in his last GSL appearance, but he just didnt show up in the finals, happens to the best... Yeah all things considered I think it’s a pretty damn solid run. As you say it’s not like he got bracket luck and played only his strongest matchup to a title, it’s been one he and most top Terrans have had a hard time in recent seasons. | ||
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Kitai
United States880 Posts
On October 08 2021 18:05 parksonsc wrote: I mean Cure is surely deserving but his run might have been one of the least impressive GSL wins of all time. He only beat Protoss, if he faced Rogue and especially Maru, there should have been ~0% chance he got through. He did face Rogue in the group stages and lost 2-1, but it was a very competitive series. The third map on Lightshade was a drawn-out macro game that was one of the best in the tournament imo. I haven't seen him face off against Maru in a while, but I'd definitely give him better than 0% odds vs Rogue. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3128 Posts
While it's disappointing he couldn't get his fairytale ending, even going out with a GSL finals run is impressive for Zest. I saw the writing on the wall a while ago, though, and was not at all surprised to see a top Protoss go out flailing under pressure. Pretty soon we're going to have to start talking specifically about a Kong curse for the entire Protoss race. WP to Cure, though, he played very well this season; while arguably better players crashed and burned, he came up with smart builds and executed them well even under extreme pressure. Especially impressive if you recall that he used to be known as an offline choker. Not the flashiest performance, but I would be quite surprised if we didn't continue to see Cure perform as one of the top Terrans for the foreseeable future. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Also, I'm pretty sure any player will gladly have a run against top Protosses than, say, a bracket with Rogue, Dark or Maru in the way. Anyway, Cure deserved his win, especially with his change of mindset. Definitely a good story there (play to win!). It's just sad to see a race suffering a Starleague drought for so bloody long, that's all. The only reason why people harboured some glimmer of hope this time is because the final boss isn't that scary. Oh well. Maybe Chintoss is the true Chosen One. | ||
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tigera6
3456 Posts
On October 09 2021 01:38 Captain Peabody wrote: Not the flashiest performance, but I would be quite surprised if we didn't continue to see Cure perform as one of the top Terrans for the foreseeable future. This is the only "issue" I have with this prediction. Before this run, I would say Cure has had a pretty dissapointing year in GSL. We all know he is capable of beating anybody, but he seems to not find that magic when it matter more. Kinda like how Solar can pretty much win against anyone but has not made Ro8 in Code S for a long time. I personally feel like a lots of thing have lined up for Cure to win this tournament, like both Rogue and Maru are taken out, and then we have several Protoss "meltdown" from Trap and Zest. Maybe this is the "turning point" for Cure career and he will take it to the next level from now, but I am still not envisioning that yet. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On October 09 2021 02:33 RKC wrote: Playing 3 same matchups in a row is definitely an 'easier' run than normal (unless, of course, it's PvZ). Especially against a race which is basically a third fiddle. I'm not sure this is true in a preparation tournament. Like how any games of Cure's PvT did Zest get to analyse? On the general topic of evaluating this GSL run: Cure beat like... all the current top crop protoss. In a matchup protoss really doesn't struggle in general. His play also passed the eye test IMO. He visibly played insanely well. Definitely not a sniper type thing (I don't think it's fair to throw Roro in with Sniper, as his lategame was legit top tier even in HotS). | ||
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