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Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
October 17 2021 18:09 GMT
#201
This speed and multitasking level is just through the roof. I doubt he can keep this up for another 3 games, but I want to believe!
Clément 화이팅
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3493 Posts
October 17 2021 18:10 GMT
#202
On October 18 2021 03:07 Nakajin wrote:
Some classic ultra into lose right there

Ultra wasnt a bad move, better than dying to mine blast, but the lack of Infestor was sad.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 17 2021 18:11 GMT
#203
All those games against Reynor made Clem only very hard to counter attack with ling runbys but his crisis management if you do slip one past him is insane. Serral got lings and banes in Clem's natural and main with Clem's army halfway across the map and still only killed 9 scvs.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Plastice
Profile Joined October 2021
2 Posts
October 17 2021 18:12 GMT
#204
Widow mines are quite good, I feel like Serral usually loses vs. mass widow mines with ling bane. Wm are like baneling traps but with ranged auto-cast, reusable and double damage.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
October 17 2021 18:16 GMT
#205
for a second there was a Bo5 instead of Bo7 and I was like wtf? Bo5 finals?
sOs TY PartinG
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
October 17 2021 18:22 GMT
#206
I don't watch Starcraft 2 super often these days, but man I'm amazed at Clem. Sure he's losing here, but I would never have imagined that we would ever have such an oppressive and mechanically clean foreign terran. He's putting so much pressure all over the map after being 50 pop and down in tech
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3134 Posts
October 17 2021 18:22 GMT
#207
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
October 17 2021 18:28 GMT
#208
On October 18 2021 03:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?


Ya I feel like he could have sat back and taken a 5th at some point
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3493 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 18:29:20
October 17 2021 18:28 GMT
#209
Clem traded away his Tanks a couple time too many, in the end, its the tank count that will crush Roach/Ravager/Lurker.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
October 17 2021 18:30 GMT
#210
On October 18 2021 03:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?


I think this is why Clem struggles with roach (as well as being less prepared), against roaches you really just need to sit back a lot of the time but Clem is great at and enjoys aggression. Hopefully with time he'll become a more mature player and be more disciplined against roach.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
October 17 2021 18:35 GMT
#211
On October 18 2021 03:22 Supter wrote:
I don't watch Starcraft 2 super often these days, but man I'm amazed at Clem. Sure he's losing here, but I would never have imagined that we would ever have such an oppressive and mechanically clean foreign terran. He's putting so much pressure all over the map after being 50 pop and down in tech


Completely agree ^^ Always felt like this race was not for foreigners but Clem is getting extremely consistent, almost always placing high.
Clément 화이팅
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3493 Posts
October 17 2021 18:35 GMT
#212
On October 18 2021 03:30 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 03:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?


I think this is why Clem struggles with roach (as well as being less prepared), against roaches you really just need to sit back a lot of the time but Clem is great at and enjoys aggression. Hopefully with time he'll become a more mature player and be more disciplined against roach.

I would disagree a bit on this. You only want to play defensive if its a Roach timing like the one Rogue did. As long as Terran can survive, they will be in much better position. Serral play Roach but also teching up his army into Lurker and Spellcaster, even going back to ling. Its not a good think to just sit back against that style because you will be behind before long. I thought Clem did the right thing, but he should keep his tanks at home to defend and move out with Bio only, until he can reach the critical numer of tanks.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3134 Posts
October 17 2021 18:38 GMT
#213
Clem needs to stop sending out armies that get immediately cleaned up.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 18:40:08
October 17 2021 18:39 GMT
#214
On October 18 2021 03:35 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 03:30 dysenterymd wrote:
On October 18 2021 03:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?


I think this is why Clem struggles with roach (as well as being less prepared), against roaches you really just need to sit back a lot of the time but Clem is great at and enjoys aggression. Hopefully with time he'll become a more mature player and be more disciplined against roach.

I would disagree a bit on this. You only want to play defensive if its a Roach timing like the one Rogue did. As long as Terran can survive, they will be in much better position. Serral play Roach but also teching up his army into Lurker and Spellcaster, even going back to ling. Its not a good think to just sit back against that style because you will be behind before long. I thought Clem did the right thing, but he should keep his tanks at home to defend and move out with Bio only, until he can reach the critical numer of tanks.

True harassing with bio is fine, it was the tanks that were the issue.

Wonder why Clem didn't transition into mines this game, I get why he went for a few tanks early because he was scared of roach but he could have transitioned like he did on lightshade. Maybe he just expected lurkers to be the final tech this map, but either way midgame was awful for him
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3134 Posts
October 17 2021 18:40 GMT
#215
On October 18 2021 03:35 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 03:30 dysenterymd wrote:
On October 18 2021 03:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
feels like Clem maybe being a little bit overly aggressive?


I think this is why Clem struggles with roach (as well as being less prepared), against roaches you really just need to sit back a lot of the time but Clem is great at and enjoys aggression. Hopefully with time he'll become a more mature player and be more disciplined against roach.

I would disagree a bit on this. You only want to play defensive if its a Roach timing like the one Rogue did. As long as Terran can survive, they will be in much better position. Serral play Roach but also teching up his army into Lurker and Spellcaster, even going back to ling. Its not a good think to just sit back against that style because you will be behind before long. I thought Clem did the right thing, but he should keep his tanks at home to defend and move out with Bio only, until he can reach the critical numer of tanks.

Right, it seems like his main problem both this & last game has been his inability to build up a strong tank count. He's keeping fights away from his own bases and doing some damage, but his siege tanks keep dying so he can't take the big fights when they come.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 17 2021 18:40 GMT
#216
Insane game
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3134 Posts
October 17 2021 18:41 GMT
#217
Dear Waru, the ghost transition
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
October 17 2021 18:45 GMT
#218
showtime , seriously ?

game 1 it was like 80% certain that clem opens fast 3 base on this map and you go oracle first ?
game 2 sure after you lost your economy you could not keep up in a long game but this was no ladder game where you just type gg ,,you had same army suply , go for a all in after that catastrophe start, take your probes what ever it takes ,sure you only have a 5% chance that your all in is winning but do, it is still 5% and better than a gg
game 3 so uninspired like the 5 game vs serral chosing this poor zealot opening that failed against serral from all protoss
why dont we see a single blink pressure stalker opening vs clem? just because you are great defensiv player great macro player you still can and have to open aggresive builds
those aggro builds dont always have to win the game immediately but they can put you in a greater position to than go what ever

the time where you did win a great european championship it was vs nerchio where you did that great all in adept build on the final 5 game

please by the love of god do more aggressive builds, stop building worker some times for that ,watch some zest games just because you are so great defensive and macro doesnt mean that you have to start most games like you want to go to endgame comp
you have the skill to do that but to often you think its to great a risk but in fact not doing that is the bigger "risk"


Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16077 Posts
October 17 2021 18:45 GMT
#219
feel like he threw it by not having his Ghosts with the army
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
October 17 2021 18:45 GMT
#220
That was a epic game but quite a early gg
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