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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
October 16 2021 16:15 GMT
#161
Reynor refused to embrace Rogue's playstyles just like Serral did, ended up that he lost series 3-0.

P/s: I am surprised that casters always talked about Rogue's gameplays whenever involved Clem's TvZ matches, but failed to point out about how Dark was the first one to stop the Clem's invisible TvZ win. Clem's TvZ weakness should not be limited to Roaches/Ravagers one-to-one timing only.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
October 16 2021 16:21 GMT
#162
On October 17 2021 01:15 swarminfestor wrote:
Reynor refused to embrace Rogue's playstyles just like Serral did, ended up that he lost series 3-0.

P/s: I am surprised that casters always talked about Rogue's gameplays whenever involved Clem's TvZ matches, but failed to point out about how Dark was the first one to stop the Clem's invisible TvZ win. Clem's TvZ weakness should not be limited to Roaches/Ravagers one-to-one timing only.

Seems like Reynor was never really comfortable with Roach, even in game 1 when he used them he tried to transitioned out of it way too quickly.
And the reason why Rogue is mentioned more because it was more recent, and the way Rogue did it was way too dominant, similar to the way he stomped Maru in GSL Final (where some people said Clem would have won back then).
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
October 16 2021 16:25 GMT
#163
On October 17 2021 01:21 tigera6 wrote:
And the reason why Rogue is mentioned more because it was more recent, and the way Rogue did it was way too dominant, similar to the way he stomped Maru in GSL Final (where some people said Clem would have won back then).


I think this is exactly it - how dominant Rogue looked in beating Clem, and how the narrative was that Clem would have won that GSL. I think many people just underestimate how well Rogue played, both in terms of strategies and mindgames.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 16 2021 16:32 GMT
#164
On October 17 2021 01:25 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 01:21 tigera6 wrote:
And the reason why Rogue is mentioned more because it was more recent, and the way Rogue did it was way too dominant, similar to the way he stomped Maru in GSL Final (where some people said Clem would have won back then).


I think this is exactly it - how dominant Rogue looked in beating Clem, and how the narrative was that Clem would have won that GSL. I think many people just underestimate how well Rogue played, both in terms of strategies and mindgames.

People thought Clem was better than Maru because he smashed Reynor and Serral while Maru struggled, but cross servers matches at bad hours can’t be compared to playing with perfect ping. Katowice 2022 will be the real test!
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 16:33 GMT
#165
didn't expect Mlord to get through. The interview was something, he speaks English like a machine gun ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 16:54 GMT
#166
the face of ShoWTime has been the definition of frustration for most of the game
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 16:56:43
October 16 2021 16:56 GMT
#167
Serral is playing like a well feed cat plays with mice
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 16:58 GMT
#168
playing vs Serral in that kind of lategame must be soul-wrenching
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
October 16 2021 16:59 GMT
#169
On October 17 2021 01:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
playing vs Serral in that kind of lategame must be soul-wrenching



It can be dangerous though for Serral, he hesitate several times to finish the game.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
October 16 2021 16:59 GMT
#170
Serral won 80% of his games because he always scout his opponent build no matter what, meanwhile his oppponent has been in the dark about Serral build and get shell-shocked when Serral bring out some type of push.
Showtime plan crumbled the moment 20 Corruptors destroyed all of his air units.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 16 2021 17:00 GMT
#171
Showtime vs Serral is just depressing, it feels so one sided for Serral
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 17:08 GMT
#172
Nice
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
October 16 2021 17:10 GMT
#173
Serral went from Ling into Roach Ravager into Spire into Bane and into Greater Spire, his tech was all over the place. Showtime was so methodological with his build, Blink Stalker - Disruptor / Immortal - Archon/Chargelot. Great game from the Wall.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 17:19 GMT
#174
making this work with drops and not nydus is quite a feat
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4042 Posts
October 16 2021 17:27 GMT
#175
On October 17 2021 01:21 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 01:15 swarminfestor wrote:
Reynor refused to embrace Rogue's playstyles just like Serral did, ended up that he lost series 3-0.

P/s: I am surprised that casters always talked about Rogue's gameplays whenever involved Clem's TvZ matches, but failed to point out about how Dark was the first one to stop the Clem's invisible TvZ win. Clem's TvZ weakness should not be limited to Roaches/Ravagers one-to-one timing only.

Seems like Reynor was never really comfortable with Roach, even in game 1 when he used them he tried to transitioned out of it way too quickly.
And the reason why Rogue is mentioned more because it was more recent, and the way Rogue did it was way too dominant, similar to the way he stomped Maru in GSL Final (where some people said Clem would have won back then).


its ok, Reynor is still more flexible than Serral, so it all worked out
Drone is a way of living
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
October 16 2021 17:43 GMT
#176
On October 17 2021 02:27 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 01:21 tigera6 wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:15 swarminfestor wrote:
Reynor refused to embrace Rogue's playstyles just like Serral did, ended up that he lost series 3-0.

P/s: I am surprised that casters always talked about Rogue's gameplays whenever involved Clem's TvZ matches, but failed to point out about how Dark was the first one to stop the Clem's invisible TvZ win. Clem's TvZ weakness should not be limited to Roaches/Ravagers one-to-one timing only.

Seems like Reynor was never really comfortable with Roach, even in game 1 when he used them he tried to transitioned out of it way too quickly.
And the reason why Rogue is mentioned more because it was more recent, and the way Rogue did it was way too dominant, similar to the way he stomped Maru in GSL Final (where some people said Clem would have won back then).


its ok, Reynor is still more flexible than Serral, so it all worked out

Yeah, I am eating my word on that. Somehow Reynor want to win his way, when its clearly not working against Clem.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 17:57:49
October 16 2021 17:44 GMT
#177
Also, is Serral trying out that new build or something, because its clearly not working despite his outta of the world control.
Edit: 3rd time is a charm, and Showtime got the absolute worst build against it as well.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 16 2021 17:56 GMT
#178
Didn't expect such a close series. GG Serral but ShoWTime looked really good
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain884 Posts
October 16 2021 17:59 GMT
#179
Great series, ShoWTime making more mistakes though... quite normal vs Serral
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4042 Posts
October 16 2021 18:00 GMT
#180
Showtime is in incredible form this time around, really good to have him back in the season finals.
Drone is a way of living
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