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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 07 2021 13:48 GMT
#1

DreamHack Masters Fall: Season Finals


Group A
Tuesday, Sep 07 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Group B
Wednesday, Sep 08 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Group C
Thursday, Sep 09 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Group D
Friday, Sep 10 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)



(Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Fall


Streams & Casters


uk ESL SC2 - Main Stream | uk ESL SC2 - B Stream

DeMusliM - RotterdaM - ToD - Wardi - ZombieGrub
feardragon
Host: Kaelaris


Format


Group Stage:
  • Dual Tournament Format.
  • All matches are Bo3.
  • Top 2 players of each group advance to the Playoffs

Map Pool



Group Stage


Group A
(P)Neeb vs (T)HeRoMaRinE
(P)sOs vs (P)PartinG


Group B
(T)Clem vs (P)MaxPax
(T)Bunny vs (T)SpeCial


Group C
(Z)Dark vs (P)Probe
(T)TIME vs (Z)Scarlett


Group D
(P)Trap vs (P)Has
(Z)Serral vs (P)Zoun


Results


+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +


+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +


+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +


+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +





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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 14:31 GMT
#2
That was awful micro by Neeb, leaving his Immortals out like that.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 14:49:23
September 07 2021 14:36 GMT
#3
No spot of Rogue, Maru and Reynor there. Hope Bunny can pull something different here after the undeserved loss in GSL Group Bracket yesterday.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 07 2021 14:52 GMT
#4
Hoping for a clean 4-0 for Big Gabe!
WriterMaru
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 07 2021 15:19 GMT
#5
On September 07 2021 23:52 Poopi wrote:
Hoping for a clean 4-0 for Big Gabe!

vs parting? i kinda doubt that.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 07 2021 15:22 GMT
#6
After this match and his GSL group, I can say confidently that sOs is back at being meh / bad / too fancy for his own good. Still entertaining though!
WriterMaru
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 07 2021 15:25 GMT
#7
Seriously looking at these fights it looks like if sOs wouldn't cripple himself by being fancy he'd be very dangerous.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 15:40:33
September 07 2021 15:40 GMT
#8
Damn I missed the first two matches, I am curious to see what the bet of sos vs hm looked like cuz I am under the impression Gabe is underestimated by the commu in this mu, especially against agressive toss he is a god
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 07 2021 15:54 GMT
#9
HeroMarine is just on another level compared to the other players in his group! Keep going like that!
WriterMaru
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 07 2021 16:02 GMT
#10
On September 08 2021 00:54 Poopi wrote:
HeroMarine is just on another level compared to the other players in his group! Keep going like that!

Getting a lucky widowmine drop is now being on another level? Noted down next time a toss gets a good diruptor shot im tell people how he is on another level
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 07 2021 16:08 GMT
#11
On September 08 2021 00:54 Poopi wrote:
HeroMarine is just on another level compared to the other players in his group! Keep going like that!


Cheeky bait lol
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 07 2021 16:09 GMT
#12
Partings micro is actually insane.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 16:13:13
September 07 2021 16:12 GMT
#13
Damn, the way Parting microed his blink stalker showed that he was not rusty, full of confidence as he portrayed in his matches in GSL yesterday.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 07 2021 16:24 GMT
#14
HM played quite well but parting just too good, still looks like he should come out 2nd.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 07 2021 16:26 GMT
#15
Damn
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 07 2021 16:27 GMT
#16
HM just need to keep playing at that level and he should be ok, I'm a bit worried given some of track record though.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 07 2021 16:53 GMT
#17
Perfect Aligulac day?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 07 2021 17:18 GMT
#18
That was the most nonsensical fight I've ever seen, lol
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 07 2021 17:22 GMT
#19
that last fight remind me of a fist fight at a disco parking lot at 3 am
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 07 2021 17:34 GMT
#20
My head-canon is definitely that sOs was doing dumb shit to flex on Neeb after.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
September 07 2021 17:36 GMT
#21
I mean Neeb fought into super battery... like 3 times? like that was a massive fucking throw there.

All he needed to do was not fight into super battery. lol
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 07 2021 17:39 GMT
#22
Who said that SoS was the weakest in the group?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 07 2021 17:40 GMT
#23
those sniperinos from sOs where clutch! But can he do it again vs the biggest of gabes?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
September 07 2021 17:43 GMT
#24
Think this last series comes down to game 1. If SoS can beat Heromarine in G1 and can break a bit of HM's confidence i think he takes it, otherwise HM just gonna steamroll again
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 07 2021 18:02 GMT
#25
this build is so dirty
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 18:02 GMT
#26
I love sOs
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 18:05:02
September 07 2021 18:03 GMT
#27
Meh too many big control failures from gabe to hold, but the build is still stupid as fuck.
Edit: lol
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 07 2021 18:05 GMT
#28
im getting dizzy, this is like watching tennis
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 07 2021 18:06 GMT
#29
what a hold though
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 18:06 GMT
#30
What the hell just happened
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 18:07 GMT
#31
Why did you throw a won game????
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
September 07 2021 18:07 GMT
#32
Oh wow Heromarine looked so dead
You're now breathing manually
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 07 2021 18:08 GMT
#33
nice hold, I wasn't a believer but sOs kinda threw trying to rush the finish
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 07 2021 18:08 GMT
#34
Lol how did sOs throw that.
GG Heromarine, glad to see that BS not working.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
September 07 2021 18:10 GMT
#35
Why is sOs doing this
You're now breathing manually
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 18:12 GMT
#36
LOL
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 07 2021 18:12 GMT
#37
I can't stop laughing my God
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 07 2021 18:15 GMT
#38
what is that game hahahahahahaaa
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 07 2021 18:16 GMT
#39
Man I wish sOs practiced more or something so these shenanigans leads to wins
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 07 2021 18:17 GMT
#40
ok the dust has settled and this looks like a very straightforward HM win now, but with that series, not going to predict anything anymore ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 18:19:46
September 07 2021 18:19 GMT
#41
yeah no there's no version of the multiverse where HM throws that honestly

especially with those phoenix suiciding in the speedzone hahaaha
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-07 18:21:59
September 07 2021 18:20 GMT
#42
So wild..... sOs doing that opening 4 times in a row lol . Edit: 3
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 07 2021 22:29 GMT
#43
Good guy sOs trying to distract everyone from how terrible Neeb was today.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
September 08 2021 00:53 GMT
#44
I didn't see sOs' GSL matches (did he play that way?) but Dream is a better Terran than gabe so surely sOs has a better way to play against Terran... right?
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 08 2021 04:23 GMT
#45
On September 08 2021 09:53 dysenterymd wrote:
I didn't see sOs' GSL matches (did he play that way?) but Dream is a better Terran than gabe so surely sOs has a better way to play against Terran... right?

It was more macro-based and less all-in against Dream in the GSL, maybe because of the Ping so sOs went for more all-in approach.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 08 2021 14:06 GMT
#46
This group stage feels so weak compared to the GSL group stage... Group D is the only one that looks interesting
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 08 2021 14:16 GMT
#47
WOOOO
This build.
Again.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:19 GMT
#48
Seriously i really dislike maxpax, just like parting but without anything to make it great in my eyes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:22 GMT
#49
This is so stupid.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 14:25:08
September 08 2021 14:22 GMT
#50
Hahaha.
Protoss is a joke.
That game was sickening.

EDIT: Let's do a rundown.
That got scouted early. Clem didn't even plant a lowground CC.
Then MaxPax misplaced his initial shield batteries (and had to cancel).
Then absolutely botched his home defence attacking marines with probes and a late recall.
Then he won. Against a top tier Terran with some of the best control in the world.
Amazing.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:23 GMT
#51
I dont understand why no magfield tho.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 08 2021 14:24 GMT
#52
On September 08 2021 23:23 darklycid wrote:
I dont understand why no magfield tho.


That was a huge mistake. I think Clem would have easily held it with magfield.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 08 2021 14:33 GMT
#53
everyone: "MaxPax is good but he has no chance against Clem"

MaxPax: "hold my warpgate"
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:33 GMT
#54
Feels like maxpax tilts his opponents in the games he wins and then it makes them do rellay stupid stuff in the following
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 14:33 GMT
#55
On September 08 2021 23:23 darklycid wrote:
I dont understand why no magfield tho.

Take too long to research. This game needs a patch and it needs it badly.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 08 2021 14:35 GMT
#56
Big tournament Clem really is a mystery, with his TvZ getting even stronger and his TvT and TvP getting weaker
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 08 2021 14:35 GMT
#57
I think Protoss player will take the championship for this season final, either Parting or Trap. Zoun or Maxpax should be underdog.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:38 GMT
#58
Still dont get why clem did that mine drop that was seen leaving the base, and then onwards it didn't look much better from him in game 3. Also why i hate watching maxpax games, his opponents at some points just do unforced dumb errors (also why he mostly loses to HM he just doesn't do that.)
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
September 08 2021 14:39 GMT
#59
On September 08 2021 23:33 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2021 23:23 darklycid wrote:
I dont understand why no magfield tho.

Take too long to research. This game needs a patch and it needs it badly.


I hate protoss more than you but what you say makes no sense, magfield is literally the only winning condition against this particular version of voidray all in
Progamer
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 08 2021 14:39 GMT
#60
That series was kinda what I expected. Poor Clem, losing to MaxPax when it matters after beating him a billion times
WriterMaru
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 08 2021 14:41 GMT
#61
Maxpax's plays are very reminiscent of PartinG's. I wonder if he takes inspiration from PartinG.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
September 08 2021 14:45 GMT
#62
On September 08 2021 23:35 swarminfestor wrote:
I think Protoss player will take the championship for this season final, either Parting or Trap. Zoun or Maxpax should be underdog.

If Serral is in top form, no protoss can beat him... he did drop a series recently to maxpax, but I wouldnt worry too much about it.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 14:46 GMT
#63
Maxpax for me is just basically encorporating what is wrong with toss at the moment, parting is actually a really good player even tho he plays kinda dirty.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 14:57 GMT
#64
On September 08 2021 23:39 Mlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2021 23:33 geokilla wrote:
On September 08 2021 23:23 darklycid wrote:
I dont understand why no magfield tho.

Take too long to research. This game needs a patch and it needs it badly.


I hate protoss more than you but what you say makes no sense, magfield is literally the only winning condition against this particular version of voidray all in

I’ve managed to hold it with Vikings, marines, and regular Cyclones. Though I’m not a pro gamer. Only 4K MMR in NA lol.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 08 2021 14:59 GMT
#65
Bunny should be able to beat Special. He is team mate with Maru after all...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 08 2021 15:01 GMT
#66
On September 08 2021 23:57 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2021 23:39 Mlord wrote:
On September 08 2021 23:33 geokilla wrote:
On September 08 2021 23:23 darklycid wrote:
I dont understand why no magfield tho.

Take too long to research. This game needs a patch and it needs it badly.


I hate protoss more than you but what you say makes no sense, magfield is literally the only winning condition against this particular version of voidray all in

I’ve managed to hold it with Vikings, marines, and regular Cyclones. Though I’m not a pro gamer. Only 4K MMR in NA lol.

Personally I don't have any problems holding that allin following the uthermal guide but the follow-up tempest contain always fucks me up
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 08 2021 15:03 GMT
#67
Wtf bunny that was terrible
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 08 2021 15:07 GMT
#68
Old Bunny came again.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 15:22 GMT
#69
The Reapest.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 08 2021 15:58 GMT
#70
* Cue DJ Khaled *
ANOTHER ONE
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 16:00 GMT
#71
So why don’t they ever transition into Tempests?
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 08 2021 16:04 GMT
#72
Man, that was a perfect defence from Bunny.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 16:05:21
September 08 2021 16:04 GMT
#73
This guy almost killed Parting in last two days ago. Why did Maxpax thinking his Maxpax's build can win again?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 16:05 GMT
#74
On September 09 2021 01:00 geokilla wrote:
So why don’t they ever transition into Tempests?

I think too low dps you just get muirdered by cyclones with magfield.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 08 2021 16:31 GMT
#75
Bunnjwa, I never doubted
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 16:33 GMT
#76
MaxPax is getting murdered so hard.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 08 2021 16:33 GMT
#77
What a game from Maxpax.... and the disruptor hit at the end....
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 08 2021 16:34 GMT
#78
not going to lie, I enjoyed that mauling
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 16:35:14
September 08 2021 16:34 GMT
#79
If Bunny does not face Serral, Trap or Parting in Ro.8, he can advance into semifinal or final.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 16:37:17
September 08 2021 16:36 GMT
#80
Damn Maxpax had nearly enough faceless power handle Bunny, it was probably the Danish factor that cost him, to recognisable. If only he was German or Russian he could have done it.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 16:37 GMT
#81
If maxpax early game doesn't work he is just not good enough to win vs good Terrans i think.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 16:51:12
September 08 2021 16:51 GMT
#82
On September 09 2021 01:36 Nakajin wrote:
Damn Maxpax had nearly enough faceless power handle Bunny, it was probably the Danish factor that cost him, to recognisable. If only he was German or Russian he could have done it.


I'm just glad faceless danes aren't killing Starcraft
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 08 2021 16:53 GMT
#83
On September 09 2021 01:34 swarminfestor wrote:
If Bunny does not face Serral, Trap or Parting in Ro.8, he can advance into semifinal or final.

Bunny in 1st place, so he wont face Parting, but will possibly be Serral or Trap unless Trap pull another dissapperance act in the group stage.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 08 2021 16:56 GMT
#84
On September 09 2021 01:34 swarminfestor wrote:
If Bunny does not face Serral, Trap or Parting in Ro.8, he can advance into semifinal or final.

with his current level he'll have a chance (albeit probably not > 0.5 in the cases you suggest) against everyone
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 08 2021 16:57 GMT
#85
MaxPax fell appart in g3 wow. Hopefully Clem gets his sh*t together and 4-0 from that point on!
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 08 2021 17:21 GMT
#86
Special had his chance, but throwing it away with the mis-micro of the army, basically got caught with Tank unseiged too many time.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 08 2021 17:26 GMT
#87
is this tvz?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 17:28 GMT
#88
Special is getting murdered so hard.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 08 2021 17:31 GMT
#89
Clem's play is just... visibly excellent.
I don't like how he's always beating some of my favourite Zergies, but his play is a real treat to watch.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 08 2021 17:39 GMT
#90
I thought a MaxPax-SpeCial mech TvP could have been really interesting, but I guess we won't get it
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 08 2021 17:40 GMT
#91
Don't know that clumped Libs can win against Thors.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-08 17:44:54
September 08 2021 17:44 GMT
#92
On September 09 2021 02:40 swarminfestor wrote:
Don't know that clumped Libs can win against Thors.

Its taking Thors forever to shoot down Libs with their AOE attack because its not Light armor, meanwhile it takes 5-6 shot for Libs to take down Thor, AND Libs shoot twice as fast as Thor. Trying to counter Libs with Thors will never work imo.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 18:04 GMT
#93
On September 09 2021 02:44 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2021 02:40 swarminfestor wrote:
Don't know that clumped Libs can win against Thors.

Its taking Thors forever to shoot down Libs with their AOE attack because its not Light armor, meanwhile it takes 5-6 shot for Libs to take down Thor, AND Libs shoot twice as fast as Thor. Trying to counter Libs with Thors will never work imo.

I always get countered by Thors.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 08 2021 18:05 GMT
#94
thors work, but its a game of numbers. Also special went from not having any to have too many
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
September 08 2021 18:10 GMT
#95
He made too many thors imo. 3-4 is all he needed, build some vikings and re-take air control
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 08 2021 18:20 GMT
#96
Yeah Maxpax macro is not on this level.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 18:21 GMT
#97
Pretty impressive of MaxPax to stay in the game that long on such a lower income.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 08 2021 18:25 GMT
#98
MaxPax didnt really take any bad fight, he only lost because he ran out of money. I also do feel it weird that the 4th base he took was too far away and more exposed than the one in front of the Main.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 18:26 GMT
#99
Here we go again!
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 18:26 GMT
#100
I'm getting a feeling of déja vu.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 08 2021 18:31 GMT
#101
Why didn’t MaxPax just go home?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 08 2021 18:32 GMT
#102
15 probes losses to a single drop with 8 marines without steam, that was pretty bad
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 08 2021 18:32 GMT
#103
yay Clem reverse swept
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 08 2021 18:33 GMT
#104
Man, this was underwhelming.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 08 2021 18:33 GMT
#105
GG Clem!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 08 2021 18:38 GMT
#106
Why MaxPax had to stay around Clem base for so long? He should know his army aint better than Clem and he lost all the shield battery, so he should just go home, making more gateway and defend the natural. He was equal worker to Clem and could have won by having macro game.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 09 2021 00:28 GMT
#107
On September 09 2021 01:57 Poopi wrote:
MaxPax fell appart in g3 wow. Hopefully Clem gets his sh*t together and 4-0 from that point on!

you got it lmao
Faker is the GOAT!
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
September 09 2021 14:10 GMT
#108
Crikey that was rough.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
September 09 2021 14:12 GMT
#109
Never seen a cannon rush defended with banes
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-09 14:55:08
September 09 2021 14:54 GMT
#110
Time's pace in this game is insane.

EDIT: That was impressive. Time was doing so much.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 09 2021 15:13 GMT
#111
Scarlett looked so bad… wow
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 09 2021 15:57 GMT
#112
This game is sooo good. Best tvZ I have seen all year.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 09 2021 15:58 GMT
#113
Dark just won with his burrowed Banes
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 09 2021 15:59 GMT
#114
What a throw from TIME :/
WriterMaru
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-09 16:01:39
September 09 2021 16:00 GMT
#115
Dark was bleeding hard but still won. Burrowed banes really saved his day.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 09 2021 16:00 GMT
#116
What an amazing Game 1 of Dark against Time!
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 09 2021 16:00 GMT
#117
TIME had the game in the bag but he did his best to lose.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 09 2021 16:02 GMT
#118
im entertained :0
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
September 09 2021 16:02 GMT
#119
Hopefully TIME does not choke vs Scarlett after this
WriterMaru
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
September 09 2021 16:10 GMT
#120
KR sweeping the groups. Tomorrows group should be a little more interesting
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 09 2021 16:41 GMT
#121
holy dude, why are those pauses so long ?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
September 09 2021 16:44 GMT
#122
Archon practice is the new meta?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-09 16:52:09
September 09 2021 16:50 GMT
#123
104 drones

make it 111 (and 90 probes). This is literally sim city 2000²
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 09 2021 16:55 GMT
#124
On September 10 2021 01:41 stilt wrote:
holy dude, why are those pauses so long ?


So I can catch up on the GSL games during down time. I'm grateful.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 09 2021 16:56 GMT
#125
On September 10 2021 01:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2021 01:41 stilt wrote:
holy dude, why are those pauses so long ?


So I can catch up on the GSL games during down time. I'm grateful.

I mean you can use that game as well, it's basically a SC2 themed screensaver
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 09 2021 17:01 GMT
#126
thank God Scarlett finished it swiftly
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 09 2021 17:57 GMT
#127
Masterful by TIME, gg
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
September 09 2021 17:58 GMT
#128
Damn time has crazy splits and micro + relentless attack, only his macro is missing a bit
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 09 2021 17:59 GMT
#129
that was a fine showing by TIME. Nice to see him in shape !
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 09 2021 17:59 GMT
#130
Scarlett got horrible engagement despite her economy was very good in that game 2, and the lack of spell caster really ended any of her hope. She was looking so good against Inno during previous DH season, but now shes back down again.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-09 18:02:47
September 09 2021 18:02 GMT
#131
On September 10 2021 02:58 Shathe wrote:
Damn time has crazy splits and micro + relentless attack, only his macro is missing a bit


He practiced archon mode prior to the matches today. Archon mode is good way to practice your micro and multitasking attack skills.

I have been informed that Reynor also practiced archon mode before the matches with Maru in the last Katowice 2021.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 09 2021 18:04 GMT
#132
4/5 terrans advancing quite the nice quota, but not unexpected looking at the groups :D
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-09 18:09:18
September 09 2021 18:07 GMT
#133
On September 10 2021 03:04 darklycid wrote:
4/5 terrans advancing quite the nice quota, but not unexpected looking at the groups :D


In reality its 4/4.Yes there were 5 terrans but with 3 of them in one group all 5 can't advance.

I guess its a little disingenuous to say it either way. Idk
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 14:48 GMT
#134
Serral saw it coming miles ahead and put up a flawless defence. Solid.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-10 14:50:57
September 10 2021 14:50 GMT
#135
I didn't like Zoun's games yesterday and the first game today was not better, imo.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 10 2021 14:53 GMT
#136
On September 10 2021 23:50 Swisslink wrote:
I didn't like Zoun's games yesterday and the first game today was not better, imo.


Whenever he tries do adepts all-in, then he will lose terribly.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 14:55 GMT
#137
On September 10 2021 23:50 Swisslink wrote:
I didn't like Zoun's games yesterday and the first game today was not better, imo.

honestly yesterday he didn't look like someone hiding builds, he looked like someone just not feeling it. I'm worried he's just not in good shape and that group won't forgive that
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 15:05 GMT
#138
ok, that was nice
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
September 10 2021 15:06 GMT
#139
Didn't expect Serral to lose like this.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 10 2021 15:06 GMT
#140
Wow, what a defence by Zoun, or maybe Serral didn't do the offence well enough...
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
September 10 2021 15:09 GMT
#141
I think Serral threw this a bit, but at least Zoun seemed to do as well as he could. Which is nice to see.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-10 15:20:43
September 10 2021 15:20 GMT
#142
overall solid by Serral. Could have been 2-0 but Zoun made some nice decisions in g2. Can't wait to see Serral vs Trap
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 10 2021 15:23 GMT
#143
Should have been a 2-0
Gg nonetheless
The next match is so hard to predict
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-10 16:14:03
September 10 2021 16:13 GMT
#144
That was a pretty interesting game until Trap decided to walk his air fleet into every Zerg spell
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 10 2021 16:15 GMT
#145
On September 11 2021 01:13 Waxangel wrote:
That was a pretty interesting game until Trap decided to walk his air fleet into every Zerg spell


He made too many voids, the combo parasite/fungal was too deadly...
I prefer neeb's approach in this regard.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 16:15 GMT
#146
clean one. Trap would probably be wise not to go for lategame again.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 10 2021 16:15 GMT
#147
not sure why Trap decided to get so fancy with the constant runby / recall style.
It's all about cost efficiency at that stage
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 10 2021 16:17 GMT
#148
Trap just cant help himself. Playing so well, outplaying Serral most of the game, and then he just has one of his Trap moments and completely throws the game. Lets see if he can keep his composure in the 2nd game.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 10 2021 16:18 GMT
#149
On September 11 2021 01:17 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Trap just cant help himself. Playing so well, outplaying Serral most of the game, and then he just has one of his Trap moments and completely throws the game. Lets see if he can keep his composure in the 2nd game.

his army was just not build to win in a direct fight, he had so much supply tied in Zealots / DTs / Disruptors which don't really contribute to a fight vs what Serral had
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 16:20 GMT
#150
On September 11 2021 01:17 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Trap just cant help himself. Playing so well, outplaying Serral most of the game, and then he just has one of his Trap moments and completely throws the game. Lets see if he can keep his composure in the 2nd game.

I thought Serral was in the driver's seat more or less throughout. Trap's moves were fancy but too wasteful, he was already 16000 resources lost behind before the fight in which he got obliterated
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 16:25 GMT
#151
yeah, it fails again. Trap didn't have the tools to beat Serral today. I hope we get Zoun - Trap, it should be interesting.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 10 2021 16:26 GMT
#152
Why did Trap shading behind?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 16:30 GMT
#153
Serral looks incredibly solid vs P. He'll get a T no matter what now, he'll be favored against all of them, I hope he doesn't disappoint. It's been too long since a big Serral victory.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
September 10 2021 16:31 GMT
#154
On September 11 2021 01:26 swarminfestor wrote:
Why did Trap shading behind?


I guess it was a miss click and he wanted to go into the main. It costed him dearly, Serial could just keep fighting with his full force instead of splitting it up
Have a nice day!
nomito
Profile Joined October 2015
8 Posts
September 10 2021 16:31 GMT
#155
Zerg is so stupid.... see adepts ? make roachs, see voids ? make roachs, stupid unit delete 2 path of protoss tech....

but way, what about robo ? no problem, make a ton of roachs, morph some ravager and done too, but toss has the better tools xd
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 10 2021 16:32 GMT
#156
Clem is clearly favored against serral, even if the finnish zerg is doing well on ladder against him, his tournament record since 2020 is awful.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
September 10 2021 16:37 GMT
#157
On September 11 2021 01:31 nomito wrote:
Zerg is so stupid.... see adepts ? make roachs, see voids ? make roachs, stupid unit delete 2 path of protoss tech....

but way, what about robo ? no problem, make a ton of roachs, morph some ravager and done too, but toss has the better tools xd


ya, you figured it out, this is exactly how it works /irony
Have a nice day!
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
September 10 2021 16:47 GMT
#158
Serral winning by abusing his race as usual
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 10 2021 17:05 GMT
#159
On September 11 2021 01:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Serral looks incredibly solid vs P. He'll get a T no matter what now, he'll be favored against all of them, I hope he doesn't disappoint. It's been too long since a big Serral victory.


Definitely not favored against Clem
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 17:12 GMT
#160
On September 11 2021 02:05 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2021 01:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Serral looks incredibly solid vs P. He'll get a T no matter what now, he'll be favored against all of them, I hope he doesn't disappoint. It's been too long since a big Serral victory.


Definitely not favored against Clem

oops yeah my bad. He does very well on ladder vs him atm but yeah definitely not favored though I give him fair chances
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 10 2021 17:35 GMT
#161
Gg Has with the big brain plays
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
September 10 2021 17:40 GMT
#162
On September 11 2021 02:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2021 02:05 Pandain wrote:
On September 11 2021 01:30 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Serral looks incredibly solid vs P. He'll get a T no matter what now, he'll be favored against all of them, I hope he doesn't disappoint. It's been too long since a big Serral victory.


Definitely not favored against Clem

oops yeah my bad. He does very well on ladder vs him atm but yeah definitely not favored though I give him fair chances


Should be close with Clem being slightly favored. I feel like Serral is underperforming in grand finals rn which is why their last clash was so one sided even if Clem is overall better in the matchup.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
September 10 2021 18:03 GMT
#163
Trap just isnt great with Skytoss army, its could be used as a timing build instead of a super late game build. You hit Zerg with +2 or +3 air attack timing when Zerg air army is not max with upgrade yet, and they dont have the perfect composition with Infestor+Viper. I saw Stats did it against Serral and it was great.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden851 Posts
September 10 2021 18:32 GMT
#164
Great bracket for Serral
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-10 18:33:47
September 10 2021 18:33 GMT
#165
DH trying hard to give Serral his 1st championship in 2021, will see if he hit Clem or Dark in the Grand Final though.
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
September 10 2021 18:37 GMT
#166
Bunny > Time
Serral > Heromarine
Parting > Clem
Dark > Trap
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
September 10 2021 18:40 GMT
#167
It is funny how Serral seems to get the easy brackets most of the time lol. I think Bunny has a slight chance but it being online and ping is generally pretty bad for T. Dark V Serral in the Grand finals imo
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 10 2021 18:53 GMT
#168
Wow the top side of the bracket is so weak. For a tournament that is called the "season finals" the quality here is lacking bad those 3-4 top players which are not present here
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
September 10 2021 19:33 GMT
#169
A few times ago people would have say the bracket is rigged.
Fortunately, serral isn't as strong anymore so nobody brings this kind of bs.
A few times ago I would have say it should be a easy ride until the finals for serral but he is been a bit too shaky this year for this kind of affirmation.
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
September 10 2021 20:26 GMT
#170
HAHAHAHA i just saw the bracket, not rigged at all in favor of Serral
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
September 10 2021 20:57 GMT
#171
It's a very very fortunate bracket for Serral. His way to the finals seems decently "easy" (at least compared to what he could have gotten). I'd be happy if he could get this one.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 10 2021 21:56 GMT
#172
Bottom 4 could be semis. Will be very interesting to watch
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
September 11 2021 01:50 GMT
#173
On September 11 2021 04:33 stilt wrote:
A few times ago people would have say the bracket is rigged.
Fortunately, serral isn't as strong anymore so nobody brings this kind of bs.
A few times ago I would have say it should be a easy ride until the finals for serral but he is been a bit too shaky this year for this kind of affirmation.


I don't get why they don't just use the GSL format where we would immediately know which part of the bracket they would be in. People say that then they can rig it, but we never actually see it happen in the GSL. Bo3s are too dicey against players that are so good that you just can't take your chances.

Setting up brackets like this just invites suspicions without any accountabilities. Heck, they could even show the draw live, and there won't be an argument. In fact, they could even make it a segment.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-11 03:44:41
September 11 2021 03:42 GMT
#174
On September 11 2021 10:50 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2021 04:33 stilt wrote:
A few times ago people would have say the bracket is rigged.
Fortunately, serral isn't as strong anymore so nobody brings this kind of bs.
A few times ago I would have say it should be a easy ride until the finals for serral but he is been a bit too shaky this year for this kind of affirmation.


I don't get why they don't just use the GSL format where we would immediately know which part of the bracket they would be in. People say that then they can rig it, but we never actually see it happen in the GSL. Bo3s are too dicey against players that are so good that you just can't take your chances.

Setting up brackets like this just invites suspicions without any accountabilities. Heck, they could even show the draw live, and there won't be an argument. In fact, they could even make it a segment.

they used to do the live draws for WCS, they would pull the names out of bowls

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