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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-10 00:11:56
July 10 2021 00:09 GMT
#121
On July 10 2021 09:02 argonautdice wrote:
Does anyone know if they're gonna keep using that map in GSL or did they already fix it?


I've been told that yes they're fixing it before the next round (and also fixing the misplaced base marker).
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
July 10 2021 00:11 GMT
#122
On July 10 2021 05:36 Obamarauder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 01:04 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 10 2021 00:08 Durnuu wrote:
On July 09 2021 23:47 asongdotnet wrote:
Who is the new GSL hostess? No more Gyuri?

I don't know what you're talking about, Gyuri is right there interviewing the players. Unless you're talking about someone else I didn't see

We can't verify her ID if we can't see her legs.

wtf does this mean?

When she does pre-interviews she is super leggy, but she has been wearing very conservative outfits and not showing legs in post interviews this past round. I honestly thought something might be going on with her lately and hope she’s okay.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 10 2021 07:37 GMT
#123
So everybody agrees in that there is no rules in map making? There is no need for natural? Distance between minerals and town hall can be variable between spawns and other expansions? mains do not need to be elevated? I am very surprised if this is the case, because its always enforced this way to make a baseline level of map balance. But if it is not a single rule, then why "fix" the map? If there is no problem with it it should be impossible to change a map mid season.

And regardless of that, PartinG got and underserved win and the GSL crew should be a bit embarrassed of it.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27466 Posts
July 10 2021 07:50 GMT
#124
On July 10 2021 06:27 GoSuNamhciR wrote:
Everyone here salty AF about Parting's win. All competitive sports has this, look at Belichick with the Patriots or when the Ravens started hugging everyone to win games (in the NFL). Its no different, but it always results in immediate rules changes or in this case, fixing of maps. They need to vet their maps better, this isn't on the players, they should always exploit all advantages given to them no matter how "immortal" some may think it is, its their profession. Grow up lol

I’ve zero issue with it from Parting’s execution of it, like at all really.

I guess many in the scene are good friends outside of the game so can’t really comment on those dynamics, I’d have been super pissed if I was Solar with the ‘thanks to the mapmaker’ comment haha.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
July 10 2021 09:33 GMT
#125
On July 10 2021 07:33 [Phantom] wrote:
There's a misunderstanding here. What happened in that parting game is not a bug, it's not an exploit, it's not a glitch.

Was it an unintended? Yeah, but it wasn't units clipping where they shouldn't, hydras doing doble damage like the other poster said, Or units passing through buildings. Or that flying CC that could load units and kill everything:



Those are bugs.

What happened here was a mistake. Resulting in an unintended scenario, but it wasn't cause by a glitch or a problem in the game code. The map simply was badly designed in that specific area. (nd just to be clear, I actually like the map).

But guess what, it's not illegal to have a bad map. We gave had plenty of those. So the ramp being blocked by a single pylon became a feature of the map. An unintended feature? Yeah. But not an exploit.

So what happened, as unfair as it was for Solar, was not illegal. It falls under the category of "shit happens".

yeah you phrased it better than I could
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States886 Posts
July 10 2021 18:38 GMT
#126
On July 10 2021 18:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 07:33 [Phantom] wrote:
There's a misunderstanding here. What happened in that parting game is not a bug, it's not an exploit, it's not a glitch.

Was it an unintended? Yeah, but it wasn't units clipping where they shouldn't, hydras doing doble damage like the other poster said, Or units passing through buildings. Or that flying CC that could load units and kill everything:

https://youtu.be/yAlF7nniS7g

Those are bugs.

What happened here was a mistake. Resulting in an unintended scenario, but it wasn't cause by a glitch or a problem in the game code. The map simply was badly designed in that specific area. (nd just to be clear, I actually like the map).

But guess what, it's not illegal to have a bad map. We gave had plenty of those. So the ramp being blocked by a single pylon became a feature of the map. An unintended feature? Yeah. But not an exploit.

So what happened, as unfair as it was for Solar, was not illegal. It falls under the category of "shit happens".

yeah you phrased it better than I could


Agreed 100%. And for people saying there should be a rule that a player has to report something, I wholeheartedly disagree. It's not at all (nor should it be) the players' responsibility to get design flaws in maps fixed.

My assumption is that if Solar or any other GSL player discovered it beforehand they could have said something and gotten it changed if they wanted to. But they didn't figure it out, PartinG did, and he got the W. Whether or not you think it was "dirty" or "dishonorable" is up to you, but I don't think it justifies a new rule.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
GoSuNamhciR
Profile Joined May 2010
126 Posts
July 11 2021 01:27 GMT
#127
On July 10 2021 16:50 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 06:27 GoSuNamhciR wrote:
Everyone here salty AF about Parting's win. All competitive sports has this, look at Belichick with the Patriots or when the Ravens started hugging everyone to win games (in the NFL). Its no different, but it always results in immediate rules changes or in this case, fixing of maps. They need to vet their maps better, this isn't on the players, they should always exploit all advantages given to them no matter how "immortal" some may think it is, its their profession. Grow up lol

I’ve zero issue with it from Parting’s execution of it, like at all really.

I guess many in the scene are good friends outside of the game so can’t really comment on those dynamics, I’d have been super pissed if I was Solar with the ‘thanks to the mapmaker’ comment haha.


Oh for sure it sucks for Solar lol, he's really had a rough year with Maru nuking his entire army in a game he had won and now this for losing in tournaments lol. Gotta love Parting though, dude is so fun to watch.
Garbo1
Profile Joined July 2020
49 Posts
July 12 2021 01:41 GMT
#128
I hate the result. Hope Parting destroys Trap in the finals.

Parting is looking to be in championship form. I think DRT beats Bunny, Trap beats sOs, Dark beats Rogue, Parting beats Zoun.

But next round is a tough call. Trap beats DRG but I'm not sure Parting can beat Dark.

I think Trap beats Dark, Dark beats Parting, Parting beats Trap... so might be a Trap win unless Parting can beat Dark.
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