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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
June 26 2021 19:37 GMT
#141
yes yes nothing unusual to see her
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15977 Posts
June 26 2021 19:37 GMT
#142
This Dark style doesn't seem like it should be working.
Deserved loss for him
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
June 26 2021 19:42 GMT
#143
Serious question though, how is Zerg dealing with Skytoss usually? Does no one go corruptor anymore? Does it cost too much given Dark was on like, 55-60 drones the whole game?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
June 26 2021 19:44 GMT
#144
Dark has played this PvZ style for almost a year, although he does mix in some Corruptors at times. Not sure what he finds superior with this style, although if you can hit all the spell (Fungal+Parasistic+Shroud) then a good engagement is possible, but its very hard to do all that.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
June 26 2021 19:44 GMT
#145
On June 27 2021 04:37 Charoisaur wrote:
This Dark style doesn't seem like it should be working.
Deserved loss for him


I felt like Dark playstyle has becoming like Rogue these days.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 19:52:19
June 26 2021 19:51 GMT
#146
On June 27 2021 04:44 tigera6 wrote:
Dark has played this PvZ style for almost a year, although he does mix in some Corruptors at times. Not sure what he finds superior with this style, although if you can hit all the spell (Fungal+Parasistic+Shroud) then a good engagement is possible, but its very hard to do all that.


Microbial queens might be effective if Dark decided to all-in in midgame.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2750 Posts
June 26 2021 19:52 GMT
#147
On June 27 2021 04:42 tantalus wrote:
Serious question though, how is Zerg dealing with Skytoss usually? Does no one go corruptor anymore? Does it cost too much given Dark was on like, 55-60 drones the whole game?


When they have a sufficient economy, the standart is to go corruptors yes with spellcasters and broodlord, sometimes ultra, it depends of the toss composition.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 26 2021 19:53 GMT
#148
You could probably tell it was Zest even if you obscured the names. Thus said, well(?) done!
I'm ok with any of the remaining players winning TSL7 at this point.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15977 Posts
June 26 2021 19:58 GMT
#149
now it will be either Trap or Reynor winning
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3410 Posts
June 26 2021 20:02 GMT
#150
I have a feeling Reynor will be playing PvZ non-stop in the last day of the tournament, meaning he might get dropped by Trap, face Zest and then Trap again.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 26 2021 20:04 GMT
#151
I think its a Trap win, Reynor might do it if he plays at his peak but I don't see Zest or Cure beating Trap in a BO7.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 20:27:48
June 26 2021 20:27 GMT
#152
Definitely looks like Reynor's ZvP will be tested thoroughly tomorrow.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 20:28:12
June 26 2021 20:28 GMT
#153
Serral doing his best Neeb impression, while still being slightly better
Faker is the GOAT!
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
June 26 2021 23:23 GMT
#154
On June 27 2021 05:04 Morbidius wrote:
I think its a Trap win, Reynor might do it if he plays at his peak but I don't see Zest or Cure beating Trap in a BO7.


I think Reynor has a decent chance. He's probably the best Z in the world right now so...
Either way, I think they'll deliver great games.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 27 2021 01:49 GMT
#155
We also have to factor in the timezone difference though. By the time the Grand Final is being played, it would be about 3 or 4am in Korea. It's hard to say what form/state these players will be in at that time. I won't be surprised if we see great games... or just games where players make all sorts of small mistakes.

I'm predicting a Reynor victory, given how strong he looked against Cure. It is a bit puzzling though because in the NeXT tournament, he didn't even get out of the group stage. I'm not sure what kind of Reynor we'll get tomorrow.
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States449 Posts
June 27 2021 03:38 GMT
#156
Super late (just watched the vods) but imo the reason for Serrals decline is pretty obvious. Zerg was in a basically auto win state for a long time as long as Zerg didn't just throw in the early game. Serral was the best at this conservative playstyle -- aka scout, react and dont die win late game.

Now that he doesn't have the free late game win card in his arsenal he just really hasn't been impressive. His aggro side has just never developed like a Reynor or Dark for example.

The premature goat conversation is hilarious in hindsight. He may have been the goat had he played in BL/Infestor era
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria831 Posts
June 28 2021 22:28 GMT
#157
On June 27 2021 12:38 Moonerz wrote:
Super late (just watched the vods) but imo the reason for Serrals decline is pretty obvious. Zerg was in a basically auto win state for a long time as long as Zerg didn't just throw in the early game. Serral was the best at this conservative playstyle -- aka scout, react and dont die win late game.

Now that he doesn't have the free late game win card in his arsenal he just really hasn't been impressive. His aggro side has just never developed like a Reynor or Dark for example.

The premature goat conversation is hilarious in hindsight. He may have been the goat had he played in BL/Infestor era


You think? My own explanation is some players just lose interest after some time once they're on the top. It's not like BW where dominance was stable for whatever reason (e.g. FlaSh). I don't remember anyone in sc2 scene who has ruled for as long as FlaSh did in BW or Jaedong. And even they started to decline at some point.
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States449 Posts
June 28 2021 22:52 GMT
#158
On June 29 2021 07:28 SC-Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2021 12:38 Moonerz wrote:
Super late (just watched the vods) but imo the reason for Serrals decline is pretty obvious. Zerg was in a basically auto win state for a long time as long as Zerg didn't just throw in the early game. Serral was the best at this conservative playstyle -- aka scout, react and dont die win late game.

Now that he doesn't have the free late game win card in his arsenal he just really hasn't been impressive. His aggro side has just never developed like a Reynor or Dark for example.

The premature goat conversation is hilarious in hindsight. He may have been the goat had he played in BL/Infestor era


You think? My own explanation is some players just lose interest after some time once they're on the top. It's not like BW where dominance was stable for whatever reason (e.g. FlaSh). I don't remember anyone in sc2 scene who has ruled for as long as FlaSh did in BW or Jaedong. And even they started to decline at some point.


That's definitely a factor too. The longer you're on top the harder it is to keep the same fire.

But I think a big part is the patches which influence the meta will naturally favor certain players, we've seen this sometimes with Stats too where he struggles to maintain his usual playstyle even though the toss meta shifted away from that.
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria831 Posts
June 28 2021 23:02 GMT
#159
On June 29 2021 07:52 Moonerz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 07:28 SC-Shield wrote:
On June 27 2021 12:38 Moonerz wrote:
Super late (just watched the vods) but imo the reason for Serrals decline is pretty obvious. Zerg was in a basically auto win state for a long time as long as Zerg didn't just throw in the early game. Serral was the best at this conservative playstyle -- aka scout, react and dont die win late game.

Now that he doesn't have the free late game win card in his arsenal he just really hasn't been impressive. His aggro side has just never developed like a Reynor or Dark for example.

The premature goat conversation is hilarious in hindsight. He may have been the goat had he played in BL/Infestor era


You think? My own explanation is some players just lose interest after some time once they're on the top. It's not like BW where dominance was stable for whatever reason (e.g. FlaSh). I don't remember anyone in sc2 scene who has ruled for as long as FlaSh did in BW or Jaedong. And even they started to decline at some point.


That's definitely a factor too. The longer you're on top the harder it is to keep the same fire.

But I think a big part is the patches which influence the meta will naturally favor certain players, we've seen this sometimes with Stats too where he struggles to maintain his usual playstyle even though the toss meta shifted away from that.


Yeah, you may be right, it sounds reasonable at least. I used to watch and play sc2 more seriously too when I had more time, but not anymore. I guess it's the same with everyone, even pros despite that they have money incentive.
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